Your fortunate..I have two friends who have died, both under 65!

I like to leave the villages and travel...

Vaccination passports could be required as soon as the summer | 10tv.com

Correct - the long term effects of Covid itself are far worse than any reported effect from the vaccine. I had Covid in January last year - confirmed by the antibody tests multiple times.

Regardless, I will definately get the vaccine.

I have a long term Covid effect that may never go away -a rare one, but I am not the only one. I smell exhaust fumes continuously. An annoyance, but after a year of smelling it I've learned to ignore that.

No for me.
 

Vaccines are used for diseases that have no treatment and the covid has a very successful treatment. In an Indonesian study people who ended up in a hospital were universally deficient in Vitamin D. So, I keep my immune system fortified with D, Zinc, C, and quercetin. I stay away from people hacking and coughing and don't go out if I feel something coming on... which I haven't in over a year. Oh, and I don't bother with a mask. They are useless for disease control, but great for mind control.
I'm more concerned with an adverse reaction to a rushed vaccine than I am in getting the bug.

I am because I don't trust the government.

Ha, ha, ha....sorry but I had to laugh. No offense meant. I keep thinking about the J&J vaccine and how it is made from monkey poop. They infect a monkey and then take it's poop and create the vaccine. :a20::yuck::eek:

thrombocytopenia from covid vaccine
 

Not getting it. Too many possible bad outcomes from an experimental substance with no recourse against the drugs maker.

I also watched the video and could not agree more!!
 

The information is scary enough to make one think long and hard about getting the vaccine.

How about this video?
Vaccine side effects are actually a good thing - YouTube

This sounds like a comedy routine. Who's on first? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Honestly? Where did you get that info?

Which vaccine did your sister in law get?

Oh I have to answer this one. Keep in mind I am not a medical person but the arrival of our infant daughter with severe congenital heart abnormality and other health issues got me very involved in educating myself about the medical community . Since then, I have seriously sought the finest health experiences for her and tried to protect her best I could for 55 years.

To your question;
How could they come up with a "cure" for a virus they know very little about in less than a year?Flu and cancer have been around forever and they can't cure them, but miraculously have an answer to Covid.

They knew quite a bit about the other kinds of Corona Viruses and could start with that knowledge to tailor the vaccine to this one. It had ENORMOUS amount of money and effort thrown at it from all over this entire planet because scientists could see that it was a very serious issue indeed. Cancer is not just one illness but many different ones and they have a vaccine just recently released for the Human Papilloma Virus that is the cause of Cervical Cancer. It is given to young teens of both gender to prevent that form of Cancer now, just in the last few years. The Vaccine is not a cure for Covid, but it allows our body to fight it off. It is a preventative measure. I am sure that you took the Polio Vaccine and one for Whooping Cough, Measles and Mumps. As an older adult I took the vaccination for Shingles and for two different kinds of pneumonia.

To the person who said it hadn't been tested enough....Well we shall soon see. Over a million seniors in Florida alone have now received the Covid-19 vaccination.

wtf??

WTF?? And the side effects were from WHAT DRUG? ������

I'm not sure where this information comes from, but Covid 19 has killed 484,000 Us citizens and many more have gotten seriously ill and have been left with lifelong permanent serious medical conditions.

Some people get mildly ill after receiving their second dose. This is a sign that their immune system is reacting. Most are over it in a few hours. I don't know if this is what you're referring to when you say thus vaccine has has sickened thousands but if that's the case, I'll accept a few deaths and a few thousand people getting mildly ill as opposed to 27.6 million getting ill and 484,000 deaths.

Also, I don't know where you get the 99.7% survival rate. In the US there have been 27. million cases and 484,000 deaths. Unless I'm doing my math correctly that is 18% of the people that get Covid die. That seems like an 83% survival rate. What that doesn't show is how many people have serious long term issues after surviving the virus.

A few thousand that get mildly sick, which may be a normal response and a few dozen deaths that may or may not have been related to the vaccine compared to an 18% chance of dying and a higher chance of being permanently ill is a not brainer for me.

Let me see if I can answer these question with a bit more detail.

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?
We will be able to stop wearing masks once the majority of people in your state or in the country have been vaccinated.

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?
These will all open normally once the majority of people in your state or in the country have been vaccinated.

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?
This vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the virus. It prevents you body from allowing the virus to replicate itself which is what causes illness and death.

4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore?
The latest findings are that it's very unlikely that people who have the virus and are asymptomatic to transmit the virus to others.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
I believe that this is incorrect.
Who in the government has said this?

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
Same answers as one and two above. It won't be until basically everyone int he country that wants to be vaccinated gets vaccinated that we will be back to normal.

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Why would you want to stop washing or disinfecting your hands? No one is forcing you to do it anyway.

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
Again, I'd like to see a quote from someone in the government that has stated this.

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened normally thanks to vaccines?
See my answers to questions #1 and #2.

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
Same as #1 and #2

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government Response - The virus won't kill you. Nor will you become seriously ill or need to be placed on a ventilator. You will also be free from worry about serious long term effect of the virus.

12.- Are you sure it won't kill me?
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been proven to be 95% affective. Efficacy rate for the seasonal influenza vaccine it between 40% and 60% and that has saved millions of lives.

13.- If statistically the virus won't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?"
Once everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated we will all be protected. For the few that refuse it, it's their lives and have every right to take that risk

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them?
Correct, But what they're trying to do it create herd immunity. Once 300 million people are vaccinated, it's likely that the virus will die.

I hope that this is helpful

You are doing your math incorrectly. 484,000 out of 27.6M is 1.8% for a 98.2% survival rate.

I agree with your argument but the math needed help.

382,000,000 people in the US. 1% is 3,820,000 people could have an extreme reaction.
 

It seems to me that's a lot more people that could get an extreme reaction than may die from the Covid 19 or am I missing something?

This is a response to one of my comments. I don't quite understand what you are getting at. Did you mean to reply to me?????

The fact is no vaccine is 100% effective. Would you recommend that your grandchildren not be vaccinated against polio because it wasn't 100% effective? All the data presented has shown Pfizer and Moderna to be 95% effective. If everyone got either of these vaccinations, we would stop the pandemic. That isn't to say that we haven't experienced problems in rolling out the vaccination process. As a scientist for my entire life, I have a great respect for both the FDA and the CDC. if you read historical books on what life was like 100 years ago, you would appreciate their roles. (For example -- The Poison Squad by Deborah Blum - there was also a PBS show on this.)

You are missing something. To date, 50.6 million shots have been administered in the U.S. Where are all these horrible reactions and deaths from the vaccine you are claiming? Where are the hospitalizations? Where are the refrigerator trucks lined up at the vaccination sites? 485,000 have died from COVID-19, not to mention the people that will suffer for months or years from damaged hearts, brains, kidneys, lungs, and probably some stuff we don't even know about yet.

We did get the second shot. I ended up with a headache, burning eyes, achy all over, in 48 hours the symptoms were all gone. It was much better than getting the covid virus.

Ummm.10% of 27 million is 2.7 million. 1% is 270,000. 2% is 540,000. So, a little less than 2%.
Yeah, your math is off.

See statement above.....first, 100% correct post in this thread.

Great question. I'd like to know so I can avoid going to the place.

Because it's a free country. I think?

Those side effects are actually because the vaccine is working.

Thanks for sharing your personal long haul Covid symptom, I hope you get better.

I hope others here will learn how many people are suffering months after they “recover” from Covid. You may be healthy and young today, get mild Covid- and have migraines every day for months- with no cure. Google long haul Covid. Read reputable scientific info.

Be well and be safe everyone!

COVID - Free To Choose!
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901510) Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

As I told my neighbors, "Of course you are free to say 'No!"
And asked "But you would sign 'No Medical Attention' - Right?"
It didn't work!
They decline a free shot, but expect 'the government' to spend hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars on their hospitalization!
Is that fair?
I say - "No shot = No respirator?"

No!!
 

I believe my own immune system is much more reliable and trustworthy than any government issued vaccine. Aside from that, this may be just the beginning of government issued vaccines. I love my country, but I fear my government. No, I don't get the flue shot either.

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Got my parents their 1st shot but they wouldn't give me one, only 67, too young. Waiting on their 2nd.

Some days I want the shot, others not so sure. It is like everything this past year, who do you trust?

Yup, missed a decimal point. Thanks for the correction.

this is where i have concerns--i read the vax contains animal(mouse) rna-dna

There is no E in flu.
There is no pee in Lake Sumter.
Your immune system is naked and powerless against a virus it has never met.
All across the world, nations that can afford it are giving out vaccines to stop this world killer.

I know of one person that felt just like you do. He died from Covid-19 last month.
It does not kill as many people under 65. Perhaps you are young?

We had our second shots last Wednesday. My arm was sore. I had a slight fever, I felt tired and even wobbly for a couple of days but now I know that my soldiers that fight disease are all lined up against this new killer.

Macrophage - Wikipedia

Oh please, I really want to see the link where you got that gem. If you really want to understand how the vaccine was created you can start by reading THIS WEBPAGE. And you can follow the links on that page to learn more.

It is posts like the one above that are spreading so much doubt and misinformation. Pile dozens of tiny lies and errors all throwing dirt at the vaccine and you end up with people saying "I've read so many bad things" You're reading garbage, or misunderstanding what you are reading. Please don't post unless you have "verified" the attack on the vaccine and provide links. A misinformed public is far worse than an uninformed public.

Oh, I thought that jswirs was telling us they don't get vaccines against fireplace ducts. I don't get those either as so far I've never been attacked by a flue.

67 is too young to get the shot? All the sights set up in Florida are offering it to 65 and older. Where do you reside where they are not giving it to those over 65?