I've noticed that this pandemic has isolated others not just from staying home, but even when out, the masks hide our expressions from one another. Add sunglasses like many do when outdoors and its like we're a bunch of zombies running around. We have lost the smiles of so many wonderful people in TV - a social connection that means a lot to many. There's usually not even a wave or nod of the head. Then, there's the attacks on others who have a different opinion. The worst part of this pandemic is how people have used it to attack rather than respect and support others. You don't have to agree with someone to respect and support - to help build a healthy community.

It may not seem "unreasonable" to you, but maybe some of us do not wish to wear the mask all the time when the possibility of being in the same area as an infected is so minute. Wear one if you wish but do not mandate that I wear one just to make you feel better. Like others have said, either wear one or go your own way but do not tell us that we are not being reasonable because you do not "feel" safe. Of course, I never thought that the gov should mandate seatbelts either. That's my opinion. To summarize, wear your mask to "feel" safe if you wish.

It’s not unreasonable, but don’t force me to wear a mask if I don’t want to. That’s my choice!

People 45 and under have a .004% chance of dying from Coronavirus. If they get Corona they will establish herd immunity to protect the rest of us. If you have a fear or an underlying illness wear your mask, nobody will stop you. Or stay home. Don't penalize the healthy that choose to live their life.

well done!!

I agree with most of your post......but explain why Doctors, Surgeons and nurses wear them. What is the purpose of masks for them?
Safety?

Please read my edited post
 

Please go back and re-read my edited post. It was posted accidentally before it was finished.
Then, please reread your own post#1 with an open mind to see if you can understand how it might have been received by someone with a different point of view.

Most of the medical providers currently "require" a mask to enter.
This would not be forcing one to wear one....just having to choose whether to have the medical service, or not.

So, you wear sunglasses to protect your neighbor? Selfish? How about those obnoxious persons that wish to get into everyone else's business and demand that they conform to "THEIR" standards or wishes? To those folks, I say "get over yourselves."
I only wear a mask and gloves when I am planning on shopping to protect my spouse. Yes, I wear gloves when I shop. DO YOU? Are you going to suggest that those that do not wear gloves are not being "courteous" to their neighbors? Maybe you do not feel that gloves are necessary? Maybe some do not believe that masks are necessary.
My compromise is this; you wear your mask to protect me from your illnesses if you wish. I will wear my mask a bit longer, but pretty soon I plan to give it up as a moot endeavor. And yes, I will use Walmart so if you folks do not wish to see me without a mask, then plan to go elsewhere. I have always used the santi wipe provided at the door to clean the cart and my hands, but that is my wish and not a mandated one to please you.
I do not judge you if you wish to wear a bio hazard suit in public, so quit judging others for their position on this plague that has been added to the long list of others that the world has survived. Some will live and some will perish. That's life. Protect yourself and do not insist that I am obligated to coddle you the way you wish to be coddled.
This is my opinion, which is just as valid as anyone else's on here. I do not believe in seat belt laws, even though I wear my seatbelt. I do not believe in helmet laws, even though I wear a helmet on my motorcycle even in those states that do not mandate it's use. Use you own common sense and do not insist on protecting others when they do not wish your intervention.
By the way, stores can display signs asking folks to wear a mask but they cannot force one to wear a mask. At least that is what one store employee said to me.
Argue all you wish but wearing a mask is just for cosmetics, so if you wish to avoid the virus, your best bet is just lock yourself up in your home and never go out until given the all clear announcement. Good luck on that.

Why? SO that they don't get hit with malpractice when they infect their patients. Do they wear them outside of the operating room? Nope.

I don't think anyone was demanding that you don't wear a mask. But, if you are really serious and not just posturing for others, then get yourself a military gas mask and be sure you are breathing filtered air. AND the gas mask will protect your eyes too. Remember, the eyes are open avenues to you internals so you must wear eye protection to keep your eyes from absorbing virus spores. :MOJE_whot:

CFrance, thank you for successfully proving the old adage that a picture is worth 1000 words.

Thank you very much for your comment. My only comment is -- I would rather wear a mask now than a respirator later.

If you wear a mask and someone else does not, what difference does it make? You’ve protected yourself. Live and let live.

Byte1, thank you for your informed comment about additionally wearing eye protection. I do wear eye protection and would hope that all the people become cognizant of the eye protection issue and take some sort of action. It does not require the full mask that you talked about. In my opinion, wraparound glasses would reduce exposure. But again thank you for your comment.

Because wearing a mask protects others as well as yourself. I wear a mask to protect you; you don't want to wear a mask to protect me. Seems rather selfish.

Sorry, that is completely bogus math.

One of my favorites!

Like Gizemo33, I would rather wear a mask now than be on a respirator later.

Then would it be ok for me to show up for service at your church wearing nothing but a mask and a jock strap?

If a restaurant can require you to wear a shirt and shoes (and some even a jacket), then they have every right to require you to wear a mask.

:agree:

You don't want to follow community guidelines then don't use community resources. Grow your own food and stay out of the grocery store and don't go to the hospital. Don't put others at risk. Be independent.

Thai is what I do. I keep the shield on but only pull the mask up when I am inside or around people. I don't expect others to protect me. I have bad lungs & I have to protect myself.

False assumption. It’s to SLOW the virus so that there is time to do research on ways to prevent, cure, or just reduce the damage caused by the virus.

Some of us carry concealed weapons to "protect" others as well as ourselves. If you don't, then does that make you being selfish? I think that those that insist that others wear a mask are being insensitive and selfishly not considering that maybe the masks make us uncomfortable and we do not wish to breath stale air or our own recycled carbon dioxide. Do you wear a seat belt to protect others or yourself? Does one wear a MC helmet to protect others or themselves? Do not presume to intimate that others are being selfish because they are not making compromises when considering YOUR demand for conformity.

Where have you been for the last two months? The mask is USELESS for personal protection. My mask protects you.

Why? Maybe some of us are not scared of the very slight/minute possibility of being infected and believe that anyone else that is scared of the idea should either protect themselves or go hide in their own homes. Personally, I believe that if you wish to wear a mask, go for it. If not, go for it. Why insist that everyone else conform to your standard, base on your fear? I respect your view and do not insist that you change it. It is a shame that you do not give others that same consideration that you demand.

And I am sure that you wore a mask during the winter of 2017-2018 when the flu killed something like 61,000? Or, were you "selfish" and have now "evolved" in your view?
Thank you for considering me and wearing your mask.

To those that wish to ostracize those that do not feel the need to wear unproven protection in the form of a sock or hanky mask, sorry if I do not know you and am not considering your precarious health care status. Perhaps your care taker should run errands for you so that you are not exposed to the "invisible menace. "

By the way, I believe that there have only been 7 covid 19 related deaths in the Villages portion of Sumter Co. And Sumter Co. is the largest portion of the Villages. I am not trying to minimize the threat, but I do believe that folks should restrict their demands for limitations to others' personal liberties, to their own lives. Do not make presumptions that you are right and others are wrong.

I'll worry about civil obedience once Martial Law is declared. Otherwise, all precautions are voluntary, not mandated. Like I said before, I wear my mask and gloves out of my own preference, not someone else's demand.

Where did you get your information about the mortality rate of the coronavirus being the same as the flu? I never heard that.

Ah me. ☹️ I was going to back out of this but..

You can’t have it both ways. If my mask protects you...how is your choice to wear one now keeping you off of a ventilator later?

People were whining that they couldn’t/wouldn’t go to any rec center activities anytime in the near future if TV relaxed the mask suggestion. Doesn’t it make more sense that you could go play canasta, etc. if you protected yourself with a face shield? You keep your spittle, vapor and whatnot and don’t have to be isolated for fear of being exposed to mine. It also shields your eyes.

That was my original thought. ������

My belief is that we choose to wear masks as a courtesy to our fellow man. The proof that it may help prevent viral spread, tends to the positive side. Should you choose not to wear one in a public environment so be it but don't claim you are not doing so just because it is your "Right", more likely to be antagonistic. I will continue to wear mine -- (wow what am imposition !) as a courtesy and will shun you who are not so concerned with my well being, I will certainly not loose any sleep over your choice.

Whew CarolSells you got it fired up with this.

There have been a few posts I’ve wanted to comment on. But find it hard to do without being condescending or just plain mean to the poster, so have stayed out.

I think the biggest take away from this is your original statement of no ones minds being changed is the most accurate.

What a misinformed person you are. Over 100,000 people are dead from this virus with the elderly being especially vulnerable. No, the CDC isn’t trying to scare you or lie to you. Sad train of thought.

The question is answered in the comment. Laws protect people from themselves in many cases. Even though experts were ignored back at 11/2019, it is still relatively new to the general public. It took years to get laws about smoke-free areas. If CV continues for 1 to 4 years (as some predict) mask and glove laws will be common as speed bumps. Note if only 60% of people wore masks the CV problem would dissolve to zero. Google that.

CV is MUCH more deadly than the common flu. Also more contagious. To disregard that is to kill your friends!

The virus comes and takes you away. to the funeral parlor.

Yawn. Did I mention the CDC or it’s guidelines? Has the CDC issued a statement saying that the extra layering of protection from a face shield is ineffective? Did I say don’t wear a face mask? I did say that many don’t use them correctly.

Maybe you didn’t read the whole thread before firing from the hip.

Great post! Perfectly true and well articulated.

Originally Posted by HelenLCSW View Post
Don’t you know any healthcare providers? They will all tell you this virus is more dangerous than the yearly flu. Why do you think more people need to be hospitalized— more people are showing organ damage subsequent to having it than with regular flu (which doesn’t cause organ damage). Why do you think hospital nurses are scared and anxious —concerned about having been exposed to patients with it —afraid of bringing it home to loved ones.
We know this virus is far more dangerous than the yearly flu —ask anyone who has had both!



CV virus goes through a mask is a misinformation. CV virus does not exist by itself in the air. It is attached to a droplet which is much bigger than the size of virus. I have just one thing to say well maybe 2.
- You have a total freedom to decide if you don't mind being infected but please do not infect me due to your freedom of choice.
- Just check the statistics of S. Korea and Japan. They have been wearing masks for many years before CV pandemic especially during the flu season. Why? it is not really to protect themselves, it is to protect other when they might be sick.

Let's wear it. How many times you have sneezed and turn and OOPs, I didn't know you were near me. Sorry!

Good post!

joke … right? :1rotfl:

Fred