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golfer123 05-31-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1774067)
Can’t believe we’re still talking about this. Wearing a mask cannot be mandated. It is not a law. A world renowned epidemiologist indicated that because of the size of the virus it can go right through any mask. Even an N 95 mask. It’s a microbe! The only value of a mask is psychological. You don’t wear a mask during flu season do you? Since we now know this virus has virtually the same mortality rate as the flu why are we still talking about this? I cannot believe the paranoia about this virus has lasted this long. The media obviously did a great job of scaring people to death to the point where they can’t even think for themselves anymore.

I agree with most of your post......but explain why Doctors, Surgeons and nurses wear them. What is the purpose of masks for them?
Safety?

fdpaq0580 05-31-2020 08:53 AM

Please read my edited post
 
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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1774213)
Exactly how is suggesting a better form of protection picking a fight? California is going to require that all servers in restaurants wear them. I’ve seen many here in TV.

Please go back and re-read my edited post. It was posted accidentally before it was finished.
Then, please reread your own post#1 with an open mind to see if you can understand how it might have been received by someone with a different point of view.

billethkid 05-31-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GPGuar (Post 1774214)
It’s not unreasonable, but don’t force me to wear a mask if I don’t want to. That’s my choice!

Most of the medical providers currently "require" a mask to enter.
This would not be forcing one to wear one....just having to choose whether to have the medical service, or not.

Byte1 05-31-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapbas (Post 1774116)
Actually that sounds selfish. How about “mask up or don’t show up” as my compromise. Your proposal shows no effort of your part To be courteous to your neighbors, and while very convenient to you, proposes the rest of us walk around like hockey goalies.

You wear sunglasses don’t you? A mask isn’t a big deal.

So, you wear sunglasses to protect your neighbor? Selfish? How about those obnoxious persons that wish to get into everyone else's business and demand that they conform to "THEIR" standards or wishes? To those folks, I say "get over yourselves."
I only wear a mask and gloves when I am planning on shopping to protect my spouse. Yes, I wear gloves when I shop. DO YOU? Are you going to suggest that those that do not wear gloves are not being "courteous" to their neighbors? Maybe you do not feel that gloves are necessary? Maybe some do not believe that masks are necessary.
My compromise is this; you wear your mask to protect me from your illnesses if you wish. I will wear my mask a bit longer, but pretty soon I plan to give it up as a moot endeavor. And yes, I will use Walmart so if you folks do not wish to see me without a mask, then plan to go elsewhere. I have always used the santi wipe provided at the door to clean the cart and my hands, but that is my wish and not a mandated one to please you.
I do not judge you if you wish to wear a bio hazard suit in public, so quit judging others for their position on this plague that has been added to the long list of others that the world has survived. Some will live and some will perish. That's life. Protect yourself and do not insist that I am obligated to coddle you the way you wish to be coddled.
This is my opinion, which is just as valid as anyone else's on here. I do not believe in seat belt laws, even though I wear my seatbelt. I do not believe in helmet laws, even though I wear a helmet on my motorcycle even in those states that do not mandate it's use. Use you own common sense and do not insist on protecting others when they do not wish your intervention.
By the way, stores can display signs asking folks to wear a mask but they cannot force one to wear a mask. At least that is what one store employee said to me.
Argue all you wish but wearing a mask is just for cosmetics, so if you wish to avoid the virus, your best bet is just lock yourself up in your home and never go out until given the all clear announcement. Good luck on that.

Byte1 05-31-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer123 (Post 1774236)
I agree with most of your post......but explain why Doctors, Surgeons and nurses wear them. What is the purpose of masks for them?
Safety?

Why? SO that they don't get hit with malpractice when they infect their patients. Do they wear them outside of the operating room? Nope.

Byte1 05-31-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1774266)
CFrance, thank you for successfully proving the old adage that a picture is worth 1000 words.

Thank you very much for your comment. My only comment is -- I would rather wear a mask now than a respirator later.

I don't think anyone was demanding that you don't wear a mask. But, if you are really serious and not just posturing for others, then get yourself a military gas mask and be sure you are breathing filtered air. AND the gas mask will protect your eyes too. Remember, the eyes are open avenues to you internals so you must wear eye protection to keep your eyes from absorbing virus spores. :MOJE_whot:

Gizemo33 05-31-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1773998)
Okay, I'll bite. When even FOX News reports that wearing a mask is effective Wearing a surgical mask can reduce coronavirus transmission by up to 75 percent, study says | Fox News why should I have to wear a face shield because others won't wear a mask?


I might add this, although I haven't researched where it came from.

CFrance, thank you for successfully proving the old adage that a picture is worth 1000 words.

Thank you very much for your comment. My only comment is -- I would rather wear a mask now than a respirator later.

kathy1516 05-31-2020 09:24 AM

If you wear a mask and someone else does not, what difference does it make? You’ve protected yourself. Live and let live.

Gizemo33 05-31-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1774271)
I don't think anyone was demanding that you don't wear a mask. But, if you are really serious and not just posturing for others, then get yourself a military gas mask and be sure you are breathing filtered air. AND the gas mask will protect your eyes too. Remember, the eyes are open avenues to you internals so you must wear eye protection to keep your eyes from absorbing virus spores. :MOJE_whot:

Byte1, thank you for your informed comment about additionally wearing eye protection. I do wear eye protection and would hope that all the people become cognizant of the eye protection issue and take some sort of action. It does not require the full mask that you talked about. In my opinion, wraparound glasses would reduce exposure. But again thank you for your comment.

CFrance 05-31-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1774186)
Why should others wear a mask because you won't wear a face shield? If understand the OP correctly, her point is that we don't have control over others, only ourselves. Doing what we need to do to take care of ourselves while being respectful of others who think different is the key. It does no good to lecture, criticize and even insult others like we've heard time and again. Actually, behaving this way only adds to the problem.

Because wearing a mask protects others as well as yourself. I wear a mask to protect you; you don't want to wear a mask to protect me. Seems rather selfish.

toeser 05-31-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1774188)
Don't be fooled by the wrong percentage of the death rate. It's very simple, take total outcomes, there are only two, which is number recovered plus number of deaths. Then divide total number of deaths by total outcomes: appx. 540,000 recovered, 100,000 dead = 640,000 outcomes. (100,000 / 640,000) * 100 = 15.6%.
THAT'S why we need to wear masks!

BTW, number of tested is meaningless because we will not know the total outcome until weeks later.

Sorry, that is completely bogus math.

NECHFalcon68 05-31-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DanBrew (Post 1774078)
Paranoia strikes deep. Into your mind it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line and the man comes and takes you away.

One of my favorites!

Barefoot 05-31-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1773998)
When even FOX News reports that wearing a mask is effective Wearing a surgical mask can reduce coronavirus transmission by up to 75 percent, study says | Fox News why should I have to wear a face shield because others won't wear a mask?

Like Gizemo33, I would rather wear a mask now than be on a respirator later.

Windguy 05-31-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1774067)
Wearing a mask cannot be mandated. It is not a law.

Then would it be ok for me to show up for service at your church wearing nothing but a mask and a jock strap?

If a restaurant can require you to wear a shirt and shoes (and some even a jacket), then they have every right to require you to wear a mask.

Barefoot 05-31-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1774280)
Because wearing a mask protects others as well as yourself. I wear a mask to protect you; you don't want to wear a mask to protect me.
Seems rather selfish.

:agree:


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