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Isabellejean 05-31-2020 09:57 AM

You don't want to follow community guidelines then don't use community resources. Grow your own food and stay out of the grocery store and don't go to the hospital. Don't put others at risk. Be independent.

nevjudbaker 05-31-2020 10:00 AM

Thai is what I do. I keep the shield on but only pull the mask up when I am inside or around people. I don't expect others to protect me. I have bad lungs & I have to protect myself.

Windguy 05-31-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Klatu (Post 1774104)
From what I hear regarding the mask quarrel, some folks feel it is necessary in order to stop the virus.

False assumption. It’s to SLOW the virus so that there is time to do research on ways to prevent, cure, or just reduce the damage caused by the virus.

Byte1 05-31-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1774280)
Because wearing a mask protects others as well as yourself. I wear a mask to protect you; you don't want to wear a mask to protect me. Seems rather selfish.

Some of us carry concealed weapons to "protect" others as well as ourselves. If you don't, then does that make you being selfish? I think that those that insist that others wear a mask are being insensitive and selfishly not considering that maybe the masks make us uncomfortable and we do not wish to breath stale air or our own recycled carbon dioxide. Do you wear a seat belt to protect others or yourself? Does one wear a MC helmet to protect others or themselves? Do not presume to intimate that others are being selfish because they are not making compromises when considering YOUR demand for conformity.

Windguy 05-31-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy1516 (Post 1774274)
If you wear a mask and someone else does not, what difference does it make? You’ve protected yourself. Live and let live.

Where have you been for the last two months? The mask is USELESS for personal protection. My mask protects you.

Byte1 05-31-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabellejean (Post 1774300)
You don't want to follow community guidelines then don't use community resources. Grow your own food and stay out of the grocery store and don't go to the hospital. Don't put others at risk. Be independent.

Why? Maybe some of us are not scared of the very slight/minute possibility of being infected and believe that anyone else that is scared of the idea should either protect themselves or go hide in their own homes. Personally, I believe that if you wish to wear a mask, go for it. If not, go for it. Why insist that everyone else conform to your standard, base on your fear? I respect your view and do not insist that you change it. It is a shame that you do not give others that same consideration that you demand.

Byte1 05-31-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1774280)
Because wearing a mask protects others as well as yourself. I wear a mask to protect you; you don't want to wear a mask to protect me. Seems rather selfish.

And I am sure that you wore a mask during the winter of 2017-2018 when the flu killed something like 61,000? Or, were you "selfish" and have now "evolved" in your view?
Thank you for considering me and wearing your mask.

To those that wish to ostracize those that do not feel the need to wear unproven protection in the form of a sock or hanky mask, sorry if I do not know you and am not considering your precarious health care status. Perhaps your care taker should run errands for you so that you are not exposed to the "invisible menace. "

By the way, I believe that there have only been 7 covid 19 related deaths in the Villages portion of Sumter Co. And Sumter Co. is the largest portion of the Villages. I am not trying to minimize the threat, but I do believe that folks should restrict their demands for limitations to others' personal liberties, to their own lives. Do not make presumptions that you are right and others are wrong.

I'll worry about civil obedience once Martial Law is declared. Otherwise, all precautions are voluntary, not mandated. Like I said before, I wear my mask and gloves out of my own preference, not someone else's demand.

frasep 05-31-2020 10:37 AM

Where did you get your information about the mortality rate of the coronavirus being the same as the flu? I never heard that.

CarolSells 05-31-2020 10:51 AM

Ah me. ☹️ I was going to back out of this but..

You can’t have it both ways. If my mask protects you...how is your choice to wear one now keeping you off of a ventilator later?

People were whining that they couldn’t/wouldn’t go to any rec center activities anytime in the near future if TV relaxed the mask suggestion. Doesn’t it make more sense that you could go play canasta, etc. if you protected yourself with a face shield? You keep your spittle, vapor and whatnot and don’t have to be isolated for fear of being exposed to mine. It also shields your eyes.

That was my original thought.

BRK1939 05-31-2020 11:04 AM

My belief is that we choose to wear masks as a courtesy to our fellow man. The proof that it may help prevent viral spread, tends to the positive side. Should you choose not to wear one in a public environment so be it but don't claim you are not doing so just because it is your "Right", more likely to be antagonistic. I will continue to wear mine -- (wow what am imposition !) as a courtesy and will shun you who are not so concerned with my well being, I will certainly not loose any sleep over your choice.

BS Beef 05-31-2020 11:09 AM

Whew CarolSells you got it fired up with this.

There have been a few posts I’ve wanted to comment on. But find it hard to do without being condescending or just plain mean to the poster, so have stayed out.

I think the biggest take away from this is your original statement of no ones minds being changed is the most accurate.

baramu 05-31-2020 11:19 AM

What a misinformed person you are. Over 100,000 people are dead from this virus with the elderly being especially vulnerable. No, the CDC isn’t trying to scare you or lie to you. Sad train of thought.

jimjamuser 05-31-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 1774046)
I find it curious we accept other impairments meant to keep us safe such as being screened for airline flights, being screened to enter government buildings, non-smoking laws, obeying traffic laws, etc...the list goes on...but somehow find wearing a mask impinges our liberties. The reason to wear a mask is to protect others as much as to protect yourself. How is that unreasonable?

The question is answered in the comment. Laws protect people from themselves in many cases. Even though experts were ignored back at 11/2019, it is still relatively new to the general public. It took years to get laws about smoke-free areas. If CV continues for 1 to 4 years (as some predict) mask and glove laws will be common as speed bumps. Note if only 60% of people wore masks the CV problem would dissolve to zero. Google that.

jimjamuser 05-31-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1774067)
Can’t believe we’re still talking about this. Wearing a mask cannot be mandated. It is not a law. A world renowned epidemiologist indicated that because of the size of the virus it can go right through any mask. Even an N 95 mask. It’s a microbe! The only value of a mask is psychological. You don’t wear a mask during flu season do you? Since we now know this virus has virtually the same mortality rate as the flu why are we still talking about this? I cannot believe the paranoia about this virus has lasted this long. The media obviously did a great job of scaring people to death to the point where they can’t even think for themselves anymore.

CV is MUCH more deadly than the common flu. Also more contagious. To disregard that is to kill your friends!

jimjamuser 05-31-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DanBrew (Post 1774078)
Paranoia strikes deep. Into your mind it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line and the man comes and takes you away.

The virus comes and takes you away. to the funeral parlor.


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