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Altavia 09-19-2023 04:42 PM

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Would you be so kind to let us know the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population as this goes forward? Maybe we might be spared another vaccine considering how many we are taking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of experience. I always look forward to your postings on medical issues

Death rate for the 65-+ looks similar to flu. The risk may be similar for any respiratory infection for that age group

Bjeanj 09-19-2023 06:01 PM

I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Altavia 09-19-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Protecting others is an important aspect of vaccination.

Unfortunately some people don't care about anyone other themselves. And expect "other people" to be "guinea pigs" and test safety of the drug for them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-19-2023 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

Djean1981 09-19-2023 08:30 PM

Exactly 💯

RedChariot 09-20-2023 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

This is a joke-right?

golfing eagles 09-20-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258667)
Would you be so kind to let us know the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population as this goes forward? Maybe we might be spared another vaccine considering how many we are taking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of experience. I always look forward to your postings on medical issues

This will be a subject that will take some time to evolve and some studies to be performed. In years gone by, RSV was considered an infant disease. I doubt it is "new" in adults, just always lumped in with "URIs" and "the flu" and even a "cold". In clinical medicine, we never really considered it a possible diagnosis in an adult, much less test for it (or if there even was a test). Therefore, we don't have a baseline of adults with RSV to use as a comparison.

My gestalt, for what it is worth, is that if we looked at the average number of total diagnoses of URI, flu, and colds say from 5 years ago, and compare it with the average number of URIs, flu, colds AND RSV say over the next few years the number will be about the same. We'll have to keep an eye out, but remember, in addition to the legitimate studies that will be performed, there are always a bunch of crap studies that find their way onto the internet just to prove one agenda or another.

Stu from NYC 09-20-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

I really hope this is a joke otherwise sad comment.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-20-2023 08:34 AM

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This is a joke-right?

It's me, parroting the mentality of some members of the community. It is sadly not a joke. Some people actually feel this way.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-20-2023 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2258695)
Protecting others is an important aspect of vaccination.

Unfortunately some people don't care about anyone other themselves. And expect "other people" to be "guinea pigs" and test safety of the drug for them.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

My comment was an extension of Altavia's comment, which was a response to Bjeanj's comment, for those of you who want to keep up.

bcsnave 09-20-2023 08:51 AM

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My comment was an extension of Altavia's comment, which was a response to Bjeanj's comment, for those of you who want to keep up.

Well what do you know about that

Velvet 09-20-2023 09:59 AM

Update: second day after RSV shot, good as gold, back to normal. So side effects so far are similar to what I get after flu shot.

JMintzer 09-20-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258789)
This is a joke-right?

No... Just typical ridiculous hyperbole...

Pugchief 09-20-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258829)
It's me, parroting the mentality of some members of the community. It is sadly not a joke. Some people actually feel this way.

Nice try. You are conflating a legitimate concern about a vaccine that has not been fully tested with disregard for the welfare of others. If only it were so simple. Maybe in your mind it is, but that doesn't mean it is in reality.

Stu from NYC 09-20-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2258875)
No... Just typical ridiculous hyperbole...

Irregardless of this what do you really mean?

Altavia 09-20-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2258905)
Nice try. You are conflating a legitimate concern about a vaccine that has not been fully tested with disregard for the welfare of others. If only it were so simple. Maybe in your mind it is, but that doesn't mean it is in reality.

So what does "fully tested" mean to you?

Pugchief 09-20-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2258918)
So what does "fully tested" mean to you?

Considering that the FDA approved the vaccines just a few months ago, and the recent history of half-truths and outright lies regarding certain viruses and the accompanying vaccines, I wouldn't personally go near that for several years. But certainly everyone should make their own decision after discussing the risk/reward profile with a trusted MD.

bcsnave 09-20-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2258923)
Considering that the FDA approved the vaccines just a few months ago, and the recent history of half-truths and outright lies regarding certain viruses and the accompanying vaccines, I wouldn't personally go near that for several years. But certainly everyone should make their own decision after discussing the risk/reward profile with a trusted MD.


I like the way you think

Bjeanj 09-20-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258789)
This is a joke-right?

Sarcasm doesn’t translate well in writing.

JMintzer 09-20-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2258907)
Irregardless of this what do you really mean?

Make that two smacks...:p

Stu from NYC 09-20-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2258974)
Make that two smacks...:p

My second will contact your second.

bcsnave 09-21-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2259012)
My second will contact your second.

Wait a second, it may take me a second to figure out what you mean about your second contacting his second. I used to be 1st in figuring this stuff out but it now looks as if I will be in second.

JMintzer 09-21-2023 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2259152)
Wait a second, it may take me a second to figure out what you mean about your second contacting his second. I used to be 1st in figuring this stuff out but it now looks as if I will be in second.

https://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_a...82254303_n.jpg

Stu from NYC 09-21-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2259152)
Wait a second, it may take me a second to figure out what you mean about your second contacting his second. I used to be 1st in figuring this stuff out but it now looks as if I will be in second.

Think of duels between two gentlemen.

Stu from NYC 09-21-2023 02:13 PM

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That was my wifes pain management physician but spelled his name Hsu.

JMintzer 09-21-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2259199)
Think of duels between two gentlemen.

I think you're overestimating both of us... ;)

kcrazorbackfan 09-21-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

Got the flu, rsv and Covid shots this week - no issues.

jimjamuser 09-21-2023 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258789)
This is a joke-right?

Roger that - tongue in cheek.


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