Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2139331)

Looking back that is what they said but the virus decided to mutate into omricon and the new pfizer booster protects against it.

Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 2139355)

You mean the one tested on eight mice? Good luck!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2139436)

My wife ran across a video online this morning; some insurance guy talking about the startling rise in mortality among millennials following the mass COVID vaccinations. He had run the numbers about life insurance payouts to that particular age group's beneficiaries and had found that it was something like 84% more than it should have been. I can't recall the exact time-period but it was for a period of some months from about mid-2021 into 2022.

The problem is (and unfortunately always will be) that the messenger will be (figuratively) killed so that the message will not be heard. (Note to the Thought Police: this point cuts both ways so hopefully this post will be seen as neutral politically). This particular story is being spread by The Epoch Times American Thought Leaders. That fact alone means that about half the population will immediately dismiss the story as contrived propaganda--about the same reaction, I suppose, that the other half would have if a story pushing glowing rather than scary reports were being spread by CNN or MSNBC.

This, I think, defines the problem with actual data relating to COVID, COVID vaccines or I suppose any other polarizing issue (aren't they all?). The source is considered before the data is thought through. We choose our side by choosing the data that best fits what we've already decided SHOULD be the case. We may lie to ourselves, at least to a point, by thinking that WE have thought things through whereas the other guys haven't, but unfortunately the other guys feel the same way about us.

COVID, bad as it is, is only a symptom of the REAL sickness that has paralyzed America.

We're light-years removed from the days of Uncle Walter as The Most Trusted Man in America.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2139499)

When the vaccine first became available, I wasn't eligible (not old enough yet, not disabled, not at risk). Eventually it was my turn to decide. I asked my doctor "are YOU vaccinated?" He said yes. That was good enough for me.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2139876)

Your doctor is a smart person. Not all doctors are that smart.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2139875)

Epoch Times is not a reliable source. See it here..........

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2139861)

Here we go. Round and round and round and round again............

Many of those folks with pre-existing conditions may still be alive today IF they did not contract Covid-19. In fact, chances are very good they would still be alive today. Covid was their death sentence. That was pre-vaccine that I'm referring to.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2139868)

Now you got me thinking. I've had the original two shot series of the Moderna vaccine. Then I've had two booster shots for a total of 4 shots. I'm waiting until December to have my third booster because I've had Covid recently. That will be a total of five shots. I'm good with that.

Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2138966)

Short answer No. Long answer hell no.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2139902)

Precisely the point of the post. Lazy person's "logic". MUCH easier to kill the messenger than to try to refute the message.

The precise same "approach" is used when someone disses CNN or MSNBC as "not reliable".

In neither case is the MESSAGE being considered.

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2139935)

Stopping at only 5 shots????

Damn anti-vaxxers.

Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 2139992)

Ditto with a capital D!!! Some folks need to read Robert F. Kennedy Jr. book “ The Real Anthony Fauci, Gates and Big Pharma.” It’s intense reading more like a textbook but the first 50 pages is all you really need to understand what this is all about. You won’t see in on NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC etc. either.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2138905)

Haven't had a booster yet. Wow, I'm still alive! At this point in my life, I'm not interested until my doctor tells me that I MUST get one. Of course, I only see a doctor once per year for my yearly physical. He still asks me if i want a flu shot and shrugs when I ask him if I really need it. Never had the flu and haven't had a flu shot in the last fifty years. Had covid but it was no more vicious than a mild cold. I'm glad everyone else gets their shots, so they can live forever. You do live forever when you get your booster, right? Just me being facetious. I am neither for nor against covid boosters and will not try to convince anyone to forego getting their vaccinations. Me? At this time, I am not getting any boosters. I had my original two shots and no boosters. I'm healthy and well past my expiration date so if I croak from covid, I've lived a great life so C'est la vie. Not planning to wear a face mask anymore either, UNLESS I have to visit a hospital and they require it. Living dangerously? Hey, I wear a seat belt when I drive and a helmet when I ride my motorbike. :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2140310)

Good for you. So there actually is a rational thinker left in this world ! Seems the more people are boosted, the more times they get it. Then they tell you they would be dead, having had it 3 times, if not for their boosters. Makes about as much sense as microbes being trapped in common food handler masks and masks made of cute quilting fabrics. But these things seem to keep people from panicking, makes them feel safe and protected, like carrying a rabbit's foot on a key chain. And that is a good thing, anything to calm the masses is a positive; it's an old psychological principle and it works. `

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2138778)

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