Basically, it is an avoidance of DEATH.

Just want to volunteer a new issue to this discussion. Russia has a whole army of hackers whose objective is to sow uncertainty and chaos in all the western countries, especially the US of A. So logically speaking, Covid is a NEW disease with a worldwide influence and NEW vaccines. If I were a Russian hacker, I would think that since nothing is perfect, then the vaccines are NOT going to be perfect - so, it is a perfect vehicle to inject some uncertainty into the WEST.

Easy to do., Just find a Doctor somewhere that does NOT believe in vaccines and build up his reputation and TWEET it out. Find examples in the US where people got sick (or think that they got sick) after getting the vaccine. After enough TWEETS like that, the dark web will pick up the story and run with it. Then some regular radio and TV stations will mention the possibility of side effects or long-term effects.

Any vaccine can have legitimate side effects, usually small in number. What I am saying is that there are HUGE rewards for the darker forces in the world to try to exploit this and GREATLY exaggerate the side effects!

OBB, that is an amazing post.
I am so glad you seem well, I hope so is your sister.

I imagine that cancer was around before TV.
P.S. I VAGUELY remember that there was a question that scientists had about whether or not ancient man had cancers. I don't know the answer or any of the details. I just pose this question to the experts.

Prior to about 1970 government was the only source of funds for original reseach. Today, that money has dried up and big corporations do most of the original research with Universities doing some. Then China steals research from the corporations.

I think of the word jab as useful for describing the short punch that pro boxers often throw.

Of the 2, I consider the source more important than the message. Sources have a track record that I can confirm. But, I can't confirm various messages.

A recent study is interesting. Apparently, there is an 85% increased chance of heart attack within 28 days of getting the second covid shot for those 18 to 38 years old. I guess they are safe after 28 days?
Anyway, I also find it interesting to note that the majority of those catching covid right now, have had their vaccination and boosters. Not trying in any way to discourage the vaccination. Just continuing the conversations with some thoughts that I find interesting. You see, I have children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. One of my adult kids has had all their shots, including boosters and it waiting in line for the next booster. That one has had covid twice. All my other kids have not been vaccinated for covid because they reason that they caught covid and survived before the vaccinations were available to them.

I am going to pass. Talks with my oncologist,watching the reports by Dr John Campbell, and listening to the EU's board discussion about Pfizer and its lack of transparency have left me "unconvinced" that the benefit/risk analysis would show it to be worth it "for me". You need to decide for yourself. Of course censorship has made it difficult to get the data we would like as we make this decission.

Some people take another's decision not to get the booster as a personal affront to their thinking. If someone feels the risk/benefit makes it worth taking the ongoing jabs, then go for it. Not sure why anyone would get so worked up by another persons decision not to.

And you believe government sites are not left or right wing? Interesting.

If you use the v word on sites you can be banned. So much for transparency.

What exactly is it that these boosters are said to do? Am I correct that they do not stop the spread, they do not prevent you from getting covid, but they claim that should you get covid the symptoms should be less severe. Is that correct?

Were they not vaccinated and boosted they would have very very long covid. See, the vaccine works.

Nothing is perfect. The vaccine will help stop the spread. The vaccine will help prevent you from getting covid. If you get covid, the vaccines will help make the symptoms less severe and reduce death.

A large number of people can say they have had covid more than once; the majority of those people are vaccinated. A large number of people have died from covid; the majority of those people were unvaccinated. I have chosen the group I want to belong to.