Originally Posted by doodles (Post 1902436)

Bottom line is most retired seniors like to travel and
WITHOUT the vaccine you won’t be allowed on planes, cruise ships etc. you also won’t be allowed in a lot of other countries

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1902308)

Ok, so 10 years of testing as a SARS, MERS vaccine and over 100,000 test subjects doesn't count? The only difference is the tweak from SARS to SARS-cov-2.

Originally Posted by dms4rn (Post 1902292)

I work as an RN. I don’t know anyone in my profession willing to take the vaccine. Rushed to market without thorough testing. Unknown side effects down the road. What’s the point if you still have to wear a face diaper and get re-vaccinated every year for something with a > than 99% survival rate?

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1902306)

Have you not ever heard or seen the hundreds of drugs manufactured by pharmaceutical companies over the years that went through extensive research and testing, put out on the market only to be recalled after there has been many repercussions, severe reactions, cancer, deaths....and everyone of them was cleared by the FDA for use? These vaccines have had no longevity study, but you do whatever you feel comfortable with and leave the rest of us to make our own educated decisions.

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1902348)

Dr. Kirsten Lyke ... from the video ... referring to side effects:

"in general, it's nothing to fear. It's our own immune systems kicking in and doing what it's supposed to do".

Well, everyone's immune system kicks in and does what it's supposed to do WITHOUT getting an mRNA shot (not a vaccine).

Not getting the shot (not a vaccine) ever. It's not a matter of how safe it is or how effective it is. It is a matter of a free American making a personal choice that is no one else's business.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1902197)

Utube for medical advice, or explanation, is there a office visit charge? Sorry I listen to the 6 medical professionals who actually know me, and can give professional advice, on facts of the patient, not a general analogy. Most who are refusing are medical professionals themselves.

Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1902349)

No one is being forced to take the COVID-19 vaccination. If you’re doctor recommended not taking the vaccination, I’d suggest getting a second or third opinion from another doctor at another clinic or hospital.

Currently, 29% of the seniors in Florida had at least one vaccination shot, and 16% had both vaccination shot. In a month from now, 42% of seniors will have had at least one vaccination shot, and 29% will have had both vaccination shots. At that rate, it will take about three months to vaccinate all the seniors in Florida.

It’s you’re choice to opt out of the COVID-19 vaccination if you are afraid of the possible bad outcome of taking the vaccination shots. However, you are then accepting the risks and implications of getting COVID-19. But you are also saving vaccination shots for the rest of society, to get their vaccination shots a little quicker.

Eventually, not having the vaccination shot could deny you air travel, cruises, mass transit, and other large crowd gatherings. Perhaps your health insurance costs might increase too. It’s not hard to envision future implementations of not being vaccinated.

If the reasons to not be vaccinated were valid, you would probably have seen a lot more bad reactions to the vaccinations by this time.

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1902350)

Actually, no. That can also happen if enough people are exposed to the virus and their God-given immune systems respond and create and immunity.

Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1902351)

Please everybody. Stop. Take it if it feels good. Move along with your lives and mind your business. Give it a rest, please.

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1902355)

Really? You give any consideration that possibly millions will have a long-term adverse reaction such as an auto-immune condition from mRNA running wild in your cells? You have that crystal ball?

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1902381)

Let's see, if there have been at least as many asymptomatic cases as there have been confirmed cases (27M) that means about 54M people in the US have been infected so far.

If the current fatality rate among confirmed cases is 1.5% then that means the overall fatality rate including asymptomatic infections is about 0.75%.

If you need 80% of the population to be immune then with 300M people in the US that would be 240M infections.

At a fatality rate of 0.75%, 240M infections would lead to 1,800,000 deaths. Since we are close to 500,000 deaths today, that means only 1,300,000 more people would be expected to die for enough people to be exposed to the virus and their God-given immune systems to respond and give immunity.

So, we can move forward with the vaccine or we can look forward to 1,300,000 more deaths: I know what my choice is.

Originally Posted by Johnsocat (Post 1902387)

Who knows what the "long haul" after effects of the virus are? Additionally, no one knows what the "long haul" effects of the RNA vaccine are?
Seems you are accepting risk either way..