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Shirleevee 11-05-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 570775)
I see that in a previous post you indicated that heart disease was already well established. Therefore, that's not an example of something I would call, "unnecessary testing". I never said not to test patients who already have established heart disease.

Yes, but he had tests a few months before in NY and all was well then. Wouldn't that lead some into thinking that all was STILL well? I would rather have a doctor covering his own behind than not!!!

Villages PL 11-06-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shirleevee (Post 577226)
Yes, but he had tests a few months before in NY and all was well then. Wouldn't that lead some into thinking that all was STILL well? I would rather have a doctor covering his own behind than not!!!

Based on your thinking, the American Heart Association should now recommend that (all?) heart patients get retested every few months. But if the retesting comes under the heading of a "second opinion" it may be justified. Could it be that the doctor retested because he knew he should be warry of cardiologists, some of whom are not trustworthy? If so, he made my point.

Garden guru 05-10-2013 08:38 PM

All of this just serves to confirm my suspicions: Too many profit-seeking doctors in The Villages with poor academic credentials, trying to exploit an older population. I'm a retired registered nurse who recently moved here. The pathetic state of health care in The Villages scares me. I finally decided my health is worth driving an hour up the road to the University of Florida in Gainesville. I don't trust this place; I've found a doctor there.

kagney123 05-10-2013 10:22 PM

Just wanted to add a little something my dearest dad may he rest in peace always said...
What do you call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school???

OnTrack 05-10-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kagney123 (Post 674422)
What do you call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school???

A heartless cardiologist? :D

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dillywho 05-10-2013 11:13 PM

Say what you want, but I still have my husband thanks to the doctors and the hospital right here in TV. They have saved his life twice now. He would now be dead if he had tried to go to Leesburg, Gainesville, or anywhere else. He would have died long before getting there.

Personally, I like and will take my chances here. Sure seems to pay off for us. Some of the very best cardiologists are here. Probably some of the worst, too. The same can be said for all the primaries/specialists anywhere.

And, as someone else pointed out, nuclear stress tests are done on the treadmill. The nuclear medicine gives a much clearer picture (literally) of how the heart is functioning before and after stress.

cindy117 12-12-2013 10:46 AM

Ditto
 
Almost exactly the same thing happened to us. I know the practice you are talking about. It is not just one cardiologist in this practice who engages in this approach. Note that these tests are not risk free - our cardiologist up north told us to beware of ending up on the operating table for no good reason after these unnecessary tests.

NotGolfer 12-12-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 674439)
Say what you want, but I still have my husband thanks to the doctors and the hospital right here in TV. They have saved his life twice now. He would now be dead if he had tried to go to Leesburg, Gainesville, or anywhere else. He would have died long before getting there.

Personally, I like and will take my chances here. Sure seems to pay off for us. Some of the very best cardiologists are here. Probably some of the worst, too. The same can be said for all the primaries/specialists anywhere.

And, as someone else pointed out, nuclear stress tests are done on the treadmill. The nuclear medicine gives a much clearer picture (literally) of how the heart is functioning before and after stress.

AMEN!! Couldn't agree with you more regarding T.V. health-care system vs. somewhere else.

Folks talk to other folks and gather opinions, many times, by someone else's experience. I think it's prudent to do your home-work (if it's possible) via the internet etc. to find out the credentials etc on any health-care provider. Certainly someone can graduate from the best school and have good credentials and still not bear up to being a good doctor! Sometimes it's perception on the patient's part as well. There are great doctors here and some who aren't...just like other areas of the country!

beekman 12-12-2013 06:23 PM

Post the doctor name on a small piece of paper this Friday on the backside of the radio station at the Landing after dark. Do it quickly and don't leave your name on it. Interested readers can then proceed there to see it only after 8 pm to protect the poster. :) James Bond 007 stuff!!!!!!

2BNTV 12-12-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shrink (Post 561015)
I am writing this post to warn others of fraud and abuse which apparently is rampant in Florida. Medicare has established a separate fraud department specifically to investigate Florida claims! Specifically, I saw a cardiologist after my husband was referred to one. It was recommended to me by that cardiologist that I have an initial workup because of my family history and a past hx of smoking. I was asymptomatic, but told that heart disease presents differently in women. Better safe than sorry, right? I was immediately referred for a nuclear stress test (never offered the option of a cardio treadmill stress test). That test cost in excess of $2400., whereas the treadmill test would have been $174.00. Hmmm...never mind, as Medicare and my private insurance were also charged for the treadmill test (which I never had). As a result of the "equivocal" findings on the stress test, it was recommended that I start on Digoxin and also have an invasive angiogram (thousands more) to see what's going on. In the meantime, I was given several other tests, including sonograms, leg studies, etc. which I have since discovered EVERYONE who sees this doctor is given. I decided to seek a second opinion from a reputable cardiologist out of state. That doctor (and I) requested records be sent a total of FIVE times. No records were sent until I called the cardiologist down here and threatened legal action. I now understand why those records weren't sent as requested. It was because there is NOTHING WRONG with my heart, as per my second opinion! By the way, my husband was given all the same tests AND underwent the angiogram...and there was nothing wrong with him, either). My reason for writing this post is to make all Villagers aware of what can go on here. Be sure to carefully check all of your medicare/private insurance statements to see what you've been billed for. Do NOT engage in a ton of tests without getting a second opinion for someone highly reputable. Just because you may not have to pay for those tests directly, we all pay indirectly. Although I'm sure that some of the physicians here are honest, are not referring to establishments where they have financial interests for unnecessary tests or to specialists with whom there is some kind of reciprocity, many are. PLEASE EXERCISE CAUTION.

I noticed this thread is over a year old.

My PCP saw something, that he said nmight be something, or nothing. He referred me to Dr. Miryala. Dr. Miryala recommended a nuclear stress test with the accompanied pictures. I found him to be very thorough and competent. He put me on a low dosage aspirin, (81MG), and I see him in January, 2014. So far, so good. :smiley:

I highly recommend Dr. Miryala for anyone, who is having heart problems.

Shimpy 12-12-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 794485)
I noticed this thread is over a year old.

My PCP saw something, that he said nmight be something, or nothing. He referred me to Dr. Miryala. Dr. Miryala recommended a nuclear stress test with the accompanied pictures. I found him to be very thorough and competent. He put me on a low dosage aspirin, (81MG), and I see him in January, 2014. So far, so good. :smiley:

I highly recommend Dr. Miryala for anyone, who is having heart problems.

My wife goes to Dr Miryala and I was so impressed with him I am changing myself to him for a cardiologist in the near future.

dillywho 12-13-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQMan (Post 564235)
I'm glad to know that you were satisfied with the treatment you received and the outcome was good. As for a lawsuit, I've been involved in two of them (neither medically connected) and came out of them never wanting to be involved in one again although I did 'win' in both cases. The truth of the matter is that the attorneys won as they do in most suits. Life is too short to waste it on things that really do not matter.

I maintain that my advice to get out of The Villages is valid. Even if you have a great physician, the requisite support does not exist here. Ask yourself the question, "If my physician is as good as I believe, why isn't he/she practicing in a major medical center?"

This may come as a shock to you, but all doctors in a major medical center are not the best. As for being in it for the money, you will find more of that in your "major" centers. The one exception that I know of for that is Mayo. All the doctors at Mayo are salaried. My ear doctor here in 2007 referred me to Mayo in Jacksonville for surgery. That when I found out how Mayo is operated. They do not accept Medicare, but will file it for you. Medicare will pay you, file your secondary, and then you pay the full charges at Mayo. Yes, I had excellent care at Mayo and continued support here.

As far as the cardiac support here, ours could not be better. Our first cardiologist experience was not good, as I described in another post. We no longer have him. The one we have now is superior. He does not do the interventions, but does the routine care and it DOES include lifestyle, diet, etc.

The doctors who have done the interventions have been the best as far as we are concerned. Because of both of them, my husband lived and is still living to this day. Because of the follow-up, he was able to recover to the point where it was not necessary to implant a defibrillator.

Do some have bad experiences here? Yes. Does that mean that every doctor that practices medicine here is bad? Absolutely, not. These doctors are doctors....not God. God has not gone on vacation and left anyone else in charge to my knowledge.

Sorry, if I sound caustic, but to bad-mouth an entire medical community or any other (restaurant, etc.) community, is just wrong to me and really gets my dander up.:cus:

Off to cheer up now. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!:gc:

gerryann 12-13-2013 06:47 PM

Just opened this thread up. This is the most ridiculous thread ever posted here.....was the dr ever named? Good grief...thanks for the warning...I'll be sure to not make an appointment with Dr ??????????????????

billethkid 12-13-2013 07:08 PM

has a faint hint of bait....maybe not....but mode sure smells like it.

btk

Jsling 12-15-2013 03:53 PM

That's not fair to all of us.
You can post the name. You are essentially telling everyone to go into an office and if it smells like what you described, steer clear. That's not fair bc all offices are busy and can almost be what you described but still be a good office with very good doctors. If you are going to post something like this, you should provide a name.

mulligan 12-15-2013 05:20 PM

Easy, folks. NEVER go to a cardiologist in TV. Problem solved.

jimmy D 12-15-2013 09:24 PM

Without the name this is just a rant maybe a dream or maybe a false story. Why not a name. do you think they look at this stuff. Your heart rate must be high and getting higher. Not fair to the Good ones

Bogie Shooter 12-15-2013 09:30 PM

don't get all upset................the OP was 9/2012. Patient and doctor are probably both gone.

OurHappyHome 12-17-2013 08:19 PM

Look into Dr Dean Ornish
 
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 567263)
Lots of information but I didn't find anywhere to "click on" to find out their diet recommendations for reversing coronary artery disease. So that leaves me skeptical. In my mind it means the clinic doesn't want to do anything that substantive which could potentially take business away from doctors.

He has several books on reversing heart disease

gerryh1943 12-20-2013 09:29 PM

Can we have a name

Neal2tire 12-30-2013 12:41 AM

We name food establishments and bartenders names. Very negative and honest every day. Without naming this 'business' (that is what a Dr is) you perhaps are causing a panic. How do I know this? Because my wife is a bit nutty wondering who this potential criminal is. Medicare fraud is a federal crime. I by the way, just had a heart attack at the age of 56 and new to TV (2 years) A very touchy decision had to be made by my cardiologist during the surgery.
A life and death decision was made by all as we followed his lead. Irreversible by the way. Now with this posting we can only lie back tonight and wonder if this was the doctor in "in The Villages".
I for one trust my cardiologist but imagine how many people are heading off to see their dr. this week with this in the back of their mind.
I would suggest naming the medical group in general or be a bit more cautious in the future about raising an alarm.
Merry Christmas and New Year
NG

Moderator 12-30-2013 07:37 AM

This thread is over a year old. It contains some useful general information about dealing with medical offices but since the OP decided not to name the specific office, it generated a lot of skeptical and anxious comments.

Topic has been thoroughly discussed and will now be closed.

Feel free to start a new thread with new or more current information.


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