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cbmerl 03-04-2020 09:57 AM

Thank you, Jacksonbrown for sharing this COVID 19 important information. There were several things mentioned that I would not have thought of. Good info for all!

eeroger 03-04-2020 10:33 AM

This is FALSE INFORMATION.
 
THIS IS FALSE INFORMATION! The surgeon general says - to not stock up on masks AND Zince Lozenges have proven not to do anything re: cold viruses. People should check validity of information before posting!

See SNOPES.

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1723643)
Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM EST
Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic.

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us!

Jim

James Robb, MD FCAP


thelegges 03-04-2020 11:10 AM

Am I worried. NO, it’s a big deal, until the next virus comes along. But if you have stock in medical supplies bonus

seoulbrooks 03-04-2020 11:28 AM

Dr. Drew: Media-driven panic over coronavirus is a bigger problem than the virus | Fox News

billethkid 03-04-2020 11:42 AM

I 100% agree.
Very likely an agenda item aimed at disrupting the economy toward some hopeful political advantage/leverage.

Bogie Shooter 03-04-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by greenflash245 (Post 1723986)
there is a wise ass in every crowd!

Which one are you referring to?

Barefoot 03-04-2020 12:05 PM

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ColdNoMore 03-04-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1724068)
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Smart lady. :D

ColdNoMore 03-04-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1724061)
Which one are you referring to?

I was hoping the reference was to me, but it will probably be meant for...you again. :(




:D

jswirs 03-04-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1723738)
i have been drinking a couple of coranas every day to build up my immunity. And for good measure i have been putting a lime wedge in each beer to build up my resistance to lyme disease.

rotflamo!!!!!

jebartle 03-04-2020 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1723967)
The president's job is NOT to be an expert virologist. His job is to provide leadership in a crisis. Whether or not he is doing this is up to each individual to decide. We all know the media has already decided, but we all will get a vote in November.

Hmmmm! Leadership??????

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1724088)
Hmmmm! Leadership??????

Up to you to decide

Bucco 03-04-2020 01:18 PM

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Two Bills 03-04-2020 02:26 PM

The most useful thing people can do is not panic.
In Australia people are panic buying toilet tissue, and yet there is no shortage!
This is called FOMO syndrome - or Fear Of Missing Out.
Started online and has become a total fiasco.
Next it will be canned food and bottled water then anything left on the shelves!
Yet not one of the panic purhased items will stave off the virus.
The human body can survive 2-3 weeks without food, but just days without water, less if unwell and with a fever.
Personal hygiene is the best method of defense.
If the condition got so bad to prevent water from flowing from the tap then you may be in trouble.
The best solution then, would then be to sit in a crouched position. put your head between your knees, and kiss your a*** goodbye!!
Until then relax and enjoy the day.

manaboutown 03-04-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1724056)
I 100% agree.
Very likely an agenda item aimed at disrupting the economy toward some hopeful political advantage/leverage.

Yep! And the mainstream press is trying to panic the public.

Rapscallion St Croix 03-04-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1724113)
The most useful thing people can do is not panic.
In Australia people are panic buying toilet tissue, and yet there is no shortage!
This is called FOMO syndrome - or Fear Of Missing Out.
Started online and has become a total fiasco.
Next it will be canned food and bottled water then anything left on the shelves!
Yet not one of the panic purhased items will stave off the virus.
The human body can survive 2-3 weeks without food, but just days without water, less if unwell and with a fever.
Personal hygiene is the best method of defense.
If the condition got so bad to prevent water from flowing from the tap then you may be in trouble.
The best solution then, would then be to sit in a crouched position. put your head between your knees, and kiss your a*** goodbye!!
Until then relax and enjoy the day.

My brother bought bicycles in preparation for Y2K.

twoplanekid 03-04-2020 02:33 PM

I received these two notices from the District office ->

Several of you have requested stock information in a pictorial format for use in your communication products with residents. Please find attached herewith the Sumter County recommended information for COVID-19. In addition, members of my senior staff, public safety and myself participated in a teleconference today with the medical team working with Sumter County Health Department Director, Dr. Zelnick. He reaffirmed that the cleaning procedures of the District were in keeping with recommended standards for this virus and affirmed that COVID-19 questions should be directed to the hot-line set up by the Florida Department of Health ph 866-799-6121. The hot-line is staffed Monday through Friday from 8am to 7pm.

basic - cover mouth when coughing, washing hands and stay at home when sick

and to the NSCUDD board ->

Thanks for hosting the emergency preparedness meeting today to discuss the District’s and Jacobs plan to provide uninterrupted utility services in the event of a major outbreak of the Coronavirus in our area. As pointed out in the update you shared with us from SCDH, the number one thing the public can do to help minimize the spread of the coronavirus is to wash their hands often.

Jacobs has a site specific Emergency Preparedness Plan (EPP) in place for these types of events. These plans are reviewed and updated on an annual basis, and as new situations arise. These plans are also reviewed by all staff annually and mock drills are performed to ensure staff are able to carry out their duties.

Jacobs has sufficient operating staff to cover both the potable water and wastewater operations in the event employees become sick.

Rock Raiford
Program Director | OM Services
Jacobs

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 02:45 PM

Looks like it's time to add a little more rational perspective to this.

In an average year, according to the CDC, there are 36,000 US deaths and 500,000 worldwide deaths from influenza.
Coronavirus---US deaths = 9, all in the same adult facility in Washington State
Worldwide---?2-3000 depending on accuracy of Chinese statistics.

So, CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc., no, chicken little the sky is not falling

Also, I'm amazed the same people who are clamoring for an instant vaccine are probably the same ones that pass on their yearly flu shot

Bucco 03-04-2020 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1724114)
Yep! And the mainstream press is trying to panic the public.

What twisted logic and reality.

ColdNoMore 03-04-2020 05:31 PM

Aww, who cares if it's safe? :oops:

I say let the one whining the most, get the first shot...next week.

If there are some weird personality side effects...how could anyone tell anyway?
:D

CFrance 03-04-2020 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1724126)
Looks like it's time to add a little more rational perspective to this.

In an average year, according to the CDC, there are 36,000 US deaths and 500,000 worldwide deaths from influenza.
Coronavirus---US deaths = 9, all in the same adult facility in Washington State
Worldwide---?2-3000 depending on accuracy of Chinese statistics.

So, CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc., no, chicken little the sky is not falling

Also, I'm amazed the same people who are clamoring for an instant vaccine are probably the same ones that pass on their yearly flu shot

But there are a helluva lot more flu cases than covid-19 cases.

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1724176)
But there are a helluva lot more flu cases than covid-19 cases.

So far, anyway.

To rephrase it in mortality rates, the best estimates for coronavirus mortality is slightly less than 1%, mostly in the over 60 crowd
The mortality rate for seasonal influenza runs about 0.1%.
But these are just the early returns

retiredguy123 03-04-2020 05:48 PM

Now watching another boring Coronavirus news briefing by VP Mike Pence. Why does it have to preempt regular TV programs on all TV channels? They just told me to wash my hands again, and to not wear a mask. I'm not wearing a mask, but I think that wearing one while travelling would help you to prevent yourself from touching a contaminated surface and then touching your mouth. Why doesn't that make sense?

anothersteve 03-04-2020 05:52 PM

Damned if they do............damned if they don't
Steve

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1724183)
Damned if they do............damned if they don't
Steve

You got that right!

For all the critics out there, the administration is doing EXACTLY what they should:
Behind the scenes, they put together a panel of experts, working with state health departments, positioning supplies, enacting reasonable travel bans and funding vaccine research.

On the public side, they are telling people not to panic, wait and see, publishing reasonable infection control procedures and to listen to the CDC and state health authorities.

What would you like the president to say? I'm not talking Trump, but ANY president----Obama, JFK, or God forbid a president Sanders---Everyone panic, sell all your stocks, fill your garage floor to ceiling with "supplies", stay at home and don't go to any stores or entertainment events because this is the end of civilization as we know it? Would that make the critics happy?????(Probably still wouldn't make the media happy)

Barefoot 03-04-2020 07:17 PM

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golfing eagles 03-04-2020 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1724205)
[SIZE="3"]I'm really rooting for you to be correct...at least once. :D
:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:

Well, I can't be constantly wrong---sooner or later I'll screw up and get something right by accident:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CFrance 03-04-2020 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1724193)
You got that right!

For all the critics out there, the administration is doing EXACTLY what they should:
Behind the scenes, they put together a panel of experts, working with state health departments, positioning supplies, enacting reasonable travel bans and funding vaccine research.

On the public side, they are telling people not to panic, wait and see, publishing reasonable infection control procedures and to listen to the CDC and state health authorities.

What would you like the president to say? I'm not talking Trump, but ANY president----Obama, JFK, or God forbid a president Sanders---Everyone panic, sell all your stocks, fill your garage floor to ceiling with "supplies", stay at home and don't go to any stores or entertainment events because this is the end of civilization as we know it? Would that make the critics happy?????(Probably still wouldn't make the media happy)

Serious question... who are these experts? I've been all over the internet and can't find any names. How do you know this?

manaboutown 03-04-2020 08:13 PM

I am not accepting any wooden nickels. WHO: Contaminated Cash May Help Spread Coronavirus

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1724221)
Serious question... who are these experts? I've been all over the internet and can't find any names. How do you know this?

Start with Dr. Antony Fauci. He's been at NIH for decades, authored quite a few articles, wrote chapters in Harrison's, which is the gold standard of medical textbooks. Never met him, but know him by reputation quite well.
Then there's Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the CDC

President Trump Establishes Coronavirus Response Task Force – Headed by HHS Secretary Alex Azar… | The Last Refuge

anothersteve 03-04-2020 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1724226)
Start with Dr. Antony Fauci. He's been at NIH for decades, authored quite a few articles, wrote chapters in Harrison's, which is the gold standard of medical textbooks. Never met him, but know him by reputation quite well.
Then there's Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the CDC

President Trump Establishes Coronavirus Response Task Force – Headed by HHS Secretary Alex Azar… | The Last Refuge

Hmmm...facts??
Steve

golfing eagles 03-04-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1724229)
Hmmm...facts??
Steve

I don't understand the question

It was asked, who are the experts?

Answer---Fauci and Redfield---those are the facts

anothersteve 03-04-2020 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1724230)
I don't understand the question

It was asked, who are the experts?

Answer---Fauci and Redfield---those are the facts

I get it man, that was a bit of sarcasm to those that thrive on "facts"

Steve

PugMom 03-04-2020 09:19 PM

& toilet paper!

PugMom 03-04-2020 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1723686)
And don't forget the milk, bread and eggs!
Steve

& the toilet paper!

golfing eagles 03-05-2020 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1724234)
I get it man, that was a bit of sarcasm to those that thrive on "facts"

Steve

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

KLBNJ 03-05-2020 06:46 AM

Thank you James.

ColdNoMore 03-05-2020 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1724234)
I get it man, that was a bit of sarcasm to those that thrive on "facts"

Steve

Versus "thriving on lies?" :ohdear:

I'll take the former.
:ho:

Darlene Lansing 03-05-2020 08:47 AM

Thank you Jim ‼️😇

DeanFL 03-05-2020 09:09 AM

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