Aldi's already started rationing cases of water - limit 2 per customer.

Publix had no more surface disinfectant wipes on the shelves, and was out of hand sanitizer two days ago with back-order still not delivered as of yesterday.

CVS had no alcohol prep pads available - which is a REALLY bad thing for people who actually need them for medical purposes.

Thankfully there's still bleach and bottles of rubbing alcohol around. I already had 2 boxes of nitrile surgical gloves from a year ago but I use them to grip things since I don't have enough oil on my fingertips for traction.

A recipe for your own hand sanitizer:

Get the strongest % of rubbing alcohol you can find at the pharmacy (usually comes in 2 varieties).
Get a bottle of pure aloe vera gel (not stuff that contains AV - I mean 100% pure AV with nothing else in it) at the vitamin shoppe or other supplement store. Also don't get juice. You need gel.
A hand-pump bottle.

Make a blend of 60-65% rubbing alcohol to 30-35% aloe vera gel. Stir well in a bowl then funnel into the hand pump.

You can add a couple of drops of pure essential oil to make it smell better - eucalyptus, cajeput, or wintergreen will be more useful for decongesting if you happen to be feeling a bit stuffed up while using the hand sanitizer (inhaling the fumes - do NOT put this on your face!). Lavender for an all-purpose nice smell. Bergamot and sandalwood (if you can find the real deal) can combine to make something that actually resembles a very light cologne.

And toilet paper!

Did I miss then mention of the Corona Virus in Post #105. Stop wasting our time with such posts. I'm on here trying to find out information that may save me or a member of my family or a friend from this possible beast. Instead of all this other Non-Sense that is posted.

I read a good article that had some very good advise. It said there is no need for most people to waste their time washing their hands when the first thing they do after the hand washing is grab their germ infested smartphone.

Yep. :oops:

Understood.

People are afraid...whether justified or not, but those we rely on to keep us informed change their tune from evening news to the Hannity Show.

Best antidote to fear is TRUTH

evening news = a joke
Hannity = a joke

Please listen to the CDC and the Florida Dept. of Health

The question of this thread is what are you doing about the pandemic/corona virus?
 

I am waiting to see. I/we always wash our hands when coming back to the house after a trip to shop or do anything.

Today I am going to buy some hand sanitizer which I have never used before. I continue to go to all four of the activities I do every week and Helene goes too and Henry plays eighteen holes every week, four days...…..

If there is a confirmed case here or nearby, I will hope all three of us will listen to the mother command to shelter in place, but I am afraid the golfer will still continue to golf.

We will listen to the skilled medical people and follow their advice.

This thread has become another political one and there isn't a virus in the world who gives a crap how you vote.

I would have thought Miss Gianna Miceli would have posted by now with a cure for the virus!!:icon_wink:

Probably will-----zinc lozenges and colon cleanse:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Let me explain, as you try to twist the narrative (again)

Your planned actions are sound and reasonable. Your "implication" that people are panicking is wrong...although in certain areas I am sure there is actual dread.

Fear of the unknown is a real fear, whether if affects you or not.

Only solution to this is FACTS

Nobody expects POTUS to cure any virus, or do anything other than insure American public is well informed.

IT IS expected of any POTUS not to speculate OR share "hunches",

Yesterday, he went from factual information from those who know until he got on Hannity. Then he said things that made no sense and were simply political, far from any fact.

Then today, despite videos playing, he says he did not say what we saw him say on the video.

Not a confidant feeling, but simply a feeling of being used, in my opinion, again.

I have no idea of how real or serious this is, but companies around the globe feel it is (unless they are in a conspiracy as is claimed on certain networks) and when we have faced these kind of issues in the past, we looked one place for resolve. We still look there, but the words coming to us are not true, not comforting nor reassuring. So, in that sense, it is political.

In talking with my son who works for a high end cloud computing sales firm, he is now restricted in his travels to his based city and must not travel to other cities to visit clients per company leadership decree. He claims that other companies are also implementing travel restrictions.

My biggest fear regarding the virus is that Jetblue and Southwest will cancel upcoming flights to Orlando from Bradley Airport and we won't be able to get back down to the Villages. That would put a serious damper on our near term lifestyle quality.

Excellent choice. It appears accurate and is updated often.

Been checking this each morning and sometimes the results are sobering.

That is probably a smart idea, especially given the industry where much can be done online.

Especially because the experts seem unsure as to how it is spread exactly.

Transmission of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | CDC

Biggest statement is this "COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning how it spreads, the severity of illness it causes, and to what extent it may spread in the United States"

I have read so many theories, it becomes confusing. We need to test and backtrack quickly.

Hoping this is a "nothing burger" but so many smart people seem very concerned and I think once they know HOW it is spread or able to at least make an intelligent guess, it is better to err on the side of safety.

I'm personally ambivalent...about a colon cleanse.

I'm thinking maybe I might start a little slower and go for a... ; cleanse.


:D

Excellent accumulation and presentation.
Another good presentation for comparison would be to have such a site for the flu information.

Wouldn't you need then to integrate testing as part of the flu scenario ?

N o case is relegated to Corona until they test positive, and we have individual choice on whether to get a shot.

But here are two sites , if you want.

Weekly US Map: Influenza Summary Update | CDC

Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report | CDC

And a third...

http://worldpopulationreview.com/sta...ates-by-state/

Here's my personal story. We went to Australia Feb. 2 to 18. Feb 20 I came down with what I thought was the typical "airplane cold." Due to change of plans I was seated between two strangers, one with a face mask. (Normally my husband and I sit next to each other in a row with only two seats.)


Today, almost three weeks later, the "cold" did not go away, and a low grade fever had arrived every afternoon (at the typical fever spike time), and I had been sleeping sitting up because of sinus drainage and cough. My pcp couldn't see me, so I went to the 441 Urgent Care Center on Powel Road & 44.


No flu swab (I've had a flu shot, but they didn't ask), no question about where I had traveled (four places in Aus plus Los Angeles and MCO), and even though I had all symptoms typical of covid-19, no test for that, nor was covid ever mentioned. Before you ask, no, I didn't speak up. I was feeling poorly and just wanted to get out of there.


I was diagnosed with bronchitis (I've never had ever) and sinusitis and given scripts for Zyrtec and prednisone and sent on my way. I hope they are right.


The doctor said Are you wheezing. I said No, and he said "I hear you wheezing, and it's an insurance thing, I have to hear you complain of wheezing."



Off topic, I'm thinking maybe we should have stuck with the first doctor, whom we loved, paid the $1k and been able to get in with him when needed.

Thank you for sharing that information. The evaluation of your illness by medical personnel was inadequate and is scary, hope your recovery begins and that you haven’t been exposed to the coronavirus.

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Thank you. I am encouraged that we have been home for almost three weeks, and my husband is evidencing no similar symptoms. Also that we were not in an at-the-time questionable location, although there are many Chinese in Australia, and we were on a plane from Hobart to Melbourne with many business day travelers who appeared to be Asian.

CFrance I'm curious as to why, after having traveled from a country where Covid19 has been found, and are presenting symptoms of Covid19, and it was bad enough you felt you should go to Urgent Care just today to get help for it - you didn't think to mention to the doctors that you might be at-risk? I mean okay they didn't ask, that wasn't a bright thing on their part. But once you discover that they aren't going to ask, why didn't you take the responsibility to tell them?

Inconvenience? Lack of insurance? You got sick 3 weeks ago and didn't think that between then and now, you could have developed something worse than what you started with? It concerns me because if you have the symptoms, and were at a pretty significant risk of exposure, then you could in fact be spreading this virus (or some other virus) to everyone else. Or worse - someone else might have spread it to you, and is running around undiagnosed spreading it to everyone else.

:beer3:I know what I am going to do to Combat the Corona Virus. I'm going to skip this Politically Charged Thread! There is some very good news and additions to what we have already learned from the CDC site and other places. This is a place for us to give and consider ideas from mainly other people in our community. They are supposed to be HELPFUL. Some of them are not helpful. If you want to speak of politics instead of ways to save our hides then this is the thread for you. It is what it is. Never gonna change. Whatever! I give up!

Hers to staying :beer3: HEALTHY. Mentally and Physically. :shocked:

First of all, the coronavirus was not present in Australia when we were there. Plus, we were in Tasmania, an island state off the coast of the mainland with a much more spread-out population.


Second of all, I did tell them I had traveled to Australia.


Thirdly, I have had colds leading to sinus infections after coming off of planes several times in the last 25 years. They always go away in two weeks. I felt no chest pains nor breathing difficulties during this cold. I had only two symptoms of the 5 symptoms they have been listing as coronavirus. People in high places have been saying not to panic, that tests were not available everywhere, you had to go through the CDC to get testing materials, and they had a tight list of requirements.



I'm not stupid. it wasn't until I developed a low-grade fever two days ago that I sought medical help. I don't think I did anything wrong, so lay off me.

You did nothing wrong and frankly as we learned yesterday, we do not have sufficient test kits in this country.

Hope you are feeling better.......sure you are fine.....fear, or unease of the UNKOWN is sometimes the worst.

I have a question. It is recommended that if you are not sick then you don’t wear a mask because “it will not help you” from the articles cited above. My question is then why is it imperative that the health workers who work with the sick, wear a mask?

This video is a must see. Very short, funny, and sad.

Twitter

Your first post implied that you had "the" symptoms that were red flags for coronavirus. There are only 3 symptoms that are "tells" for the coronavirus: coughing, fever, and difficulty breathing. So if you didn't have all three of those symptoms it wasn't likely that they'd feel any need to test you for the coronavirus.

The only thing "wrong" you did, it seems, is post your first post in the way you posted it. It was easily interpreted as your criticism of the medical folks for not testing you, as you feel they should have. But when in reality, there was no reason for them to do that. If everyone who had a low-grade fever and symptoms of a cold went to the doctor, they'd be so busy telling people to go home and eat chicken soup that they'd probably miss more actual cases of COVID-19 than they'd be able to treat.

I have symptoms of a cold all the time. Sniffles/runny nose, mild congestion. 24/7/365. It's called allergies and a deviated septum that makes it difficult to breathe through my right nostril. But if I left out that little detail about it being allergies and having the septum problem, people might read: "hey she's sick all the time? And she doesn't go to the doctor? WTH someone call the Dept of health and have her quarantined!"

That's what happens when you leave those pesky little details out. It's manipulative.

I have heard the term "Monday morning quarterbacks".
Now a new one "Monday morning doctors".:shrug:

CFrance, hope you are feeling better today. You know your body best, what is normal to you and what is not.

Where's Gianna Micelli when we need her?

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I left no details out. I was not being manipulative, as you choose to accuse. I had three of the 5 symptoms--actually four, since he told me I was wheezing when I didn't know I was. I was indeed questioning the medical doctor for not at least doing a flu swab, which my friend the nurse asked me about after the fact. If I hadn't told him I traveled, he wouldn't have asked. When I did tell him, he had no response.



But you can have the last word. I'm out of discussing it with you any further.

Or, as has been suggested by ex CIA who worked n counter terrorism, relative to initial and on going lack of testing kits, inaccuracy of initial tests, lack of accurate reporting, etc. along with the dismantling in 2018 of the WH pandemic team , This is viewed how we, as a country, are responding to #COVID19 through an analytic lens.

It's safe to assume that foreign intelligence services are watching too.

Everything is not about internal.

Anyone consider the mask, toilet paper and wipes manufacturers might be behind spreading panic?