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graciegirl 05-11-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1058804)
Cleveland Clinic researchers found a link between trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO) and cardiovascular disease.

TMAO is produced when you digest choline (found in red meat, eggs and dairy) Those with the highest levels of TMAO had double the risk of death from heart attack and stroke compared to others with the lowest levels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/he...ease.html?_r=0


This link out THIS WEEK from The Cleveland Clinic, The Best heart hospital in the U.S.;

5 On-The-Go Hearty, Heart-Healthy Breakfast Ideas

Barefoot 05-11-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1058804)
Cleveland Clinic researchers found a link between trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO) and cardiovascular disease.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/he...ease.html?_r=0

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1059040)
This link out THIS WEEK from The Cleveland Clinic, The Best heart hospital in the U.S. ---
5 On-The-Go Hearty, Heart-Healthy Breakfast Ideas

:shocked: That puts things in perspective.

Villages PL 05-12-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1059040)
This link out THIS WEEK from The Cleveland Clinic, The Best heart hospital in the U.S.;

5 On-The-Go Hearty, Heart-Healthy Breakfast Ideas

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This is a correction: The link I gave was for a study pertaining only to red meat. The recent article in the AARP Bulletin dated May, 2015, includes eggs and dairy products. At the end it states, "The Cleveland Clinic expects TMAO tests to be commercially available this year." This test supposedly will lead to "personalized nutrition information". Notice this has nothing to do with lowering the one's risk for cancer. They are only looking at heart disease. That's what Dr. Colin Campbell calls "reductionism". When you only look at one thing at a time, it's likely you may get conflicting diet information

Here's the link to the May article: Read # 5 Heart Trouble Ahead
http://www.aarp.org/health/condition...c-tests.2.html

Villages PL 05-12-2015 04:07 PM

Even when broken up by exercise, lengthy sitting linked to heart disease | News OK

Keep moving! First wave your left hand and then your right hand, like this---->:wave:

Villages PL 05-12-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1058072)
I'm not sure a healthy diet works for dementia.

A healthy diet started in midlife can be very helpful: (90% lower risk) Physical activity in midlife is very helpful too.

Help Page -- ScienceDaily

Barefoot 05-12-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059342)

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059352)

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059367)

I'm not sure why you're posting all these links.
As I'm sure you know, if we are interested in any subject regarding health,
we can google the subject and read all the information available.
Is this specific information that you think Villagers need to know?

dbussone 05-12-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1059373)
I'm not sure why you're posting all these links.
As I'm sure you know, if we are interested in any subject regarding health,
we can google the subject and read all the information available.
Is this specific information that you think Villagers need to know?


I think he is Obama's new Vegan Czar.

KayakerNC 05-12-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1059390)
I think he is Obama's new Vegan Czar.

I expect to see him knocking at my door, brandishing a copy of the FoodTower, on a mission of conversion.:crap2:

dbussone 05-12-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 1059394)
I expect to see him knocking at my door, brandishing a copy of the FoodTower, on a mission of conversion.:crap2:


Oh boy! I sure hope not. I'm a push over for dietary conversions.

graciegirl 05-12-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1059395)
Oh boy! I sure hope not. I'm a push over for dietary conversions.


:wine::jester::wave:

Villages PL 05-13-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1057996)
Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.

I put up various links to provide "the scientific basis" for my comment. Now that I have competently done so, it seems it's time for sore losers to change the subject.

Barefoot 05-13-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059738)
I put up various links to provide "the scientific basis" for my comment. Now that I have competently done so, it seems it's time for sore losers to change the subject.

This isn't a wrestling match. There are no "winners" and there are no "sore losers". Just people debating different points of view. :024:

Villages PL 05-13-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1057996)
Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.

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Originally Posted by barefoot; Is this specific information that you think villagers need to know?
Yes, I was providing a scientific basis for my point that coronary artery disease can be prevented, halted or even reversed.

dbussone 05-13-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059762)
Sounds to me like a comment by someone who lost the debate. With no valid points to make, the next best thing is to make jokes about the OP.


This was neither a debate nor a discussion. The OP is unable to stay on point or respond to questions without raising another question. When I was on a debate team an individual lost points for that.

CFrance 05-13-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1059762)
Sounds to me like a comment by someone who lost the debate. With no valid points to make, the next best thing is to make jokes about the OP.

Only an impartial judge gets to decide who lost the debate. Certainly not one of the participants. Even a suggestion of loss by less than a judge is worthless.


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