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Marine1974 01-04-2022 08:40 AM

400,000 new cases of Covid in the U.S. reported in one day that we know about , the real number is surely higher , is driving testing up .
Rapid tests there is a shortage of .

milling73 01-04-2022 08:49 AM

Testing
 
Agree- unless test results are needed for travel what exactly is the point of waiting possibly hours in line to find out if you have the flu, cold, or COVID? Does having either confirmed make you feel any less sick? Wouldnt you be more comfortable at home in bed, treating the symptoms - like we all did before all this started?
Seriously, what difference does it make?

pgettinger01 01-04-2022 08:58 AM

If you are not going to get vaccinated why test? The test is only valid at the time it is taken. After the test you might contract it. Testing is a waste of money and time.

Scorpyo 01-04-2022 09:24 AM

Most of the responses are against testing and for many good reasons. I would have heartedly agreed 2 days ago. As of yesterday I still agree, however, not to the same degree. Yesterday I was feeling like crap. I had a stuffy runny nose, coughing, sneezing, a slight headache and a slight back ache. I happen to have 2 BinaxNOW tests kits which I bought a few months ago. So I opened one and did the test. I was expecting a negative result – probably a cold or maybe some flu symptoms. No such luck it came up positive. I immediately texted my doctor to see what, if anything, I should do. He has not, as yet, gotten back to me. I will take the second test next Saturday to see if it comes up negative. In the meantime, given that I know I have it I won’t be running around spreading it. Yesterday the symptoms were mild, not so much last night. I didn’t get any sleep as it was difficult breathing with my stuffed up nostrils and my temperature fluctuated between 99 and 102. And yes, I had both Pfizer shots and the booster. So yes, I do agree that most of this testing hysteria is uncalled for but there are a few instances where it may be prudent.

merrymini 01-04-2022 09:28 AM

Really
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2045823)
Hospitalizations are at a all time high in Illinois. Governor Pritzker
said yesterday in his news conference 85% of hospitalized Covid patients are unvaccinated.
95% of Covid patients on ventilators are unvaccinated.
Major health crisis . Staffing shortages in the hospitals here due to Covid infections and employees quitting due to burn out and stress of caring for patients with Covid. ,
They don’t want to put their loved ones at risk . If your not vaccinated, you are 10 times more likely to end up hospitalized as we see now the vaccinated are less likely to require
hospitalization .

I would like to know where you get your numbers because they sound bogus.

Ptmckiou 01-04-2022 09:32 AM

Omicron can pack a real punch….doesn’t feel like a normal flu. You can end up in the hospital if you don’t have the added protection of the vaccines. With that said, a lot of testing is going to schools. Many require a negative test to start school, and if someone comes up positive during school everyone that had contact with them must get tested, then if they stay without systems test again for a negative result to return to school. If everyone was vaccinated so their systems were more mild, we wouldn’t have this problem. However, since 30% of the population refuses vaccines, they become heavy load carriers of the virus which then can infect others, especially children. I know someone that had omicron and said it took her 20 minutes just to get out of bed and she had to monitor her blood oxygen levels, especially at night and not let them go below 90. She said it was scary, and if someone had gotten it like her and didn’t have the added protection of the vaccines and booster, she thinks they definitely would have ended up in the hospital. She said she has never had any “flu” that hit her so hard like this.

Bill14564 01-04-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2045875)
I would like to know where you get your numbers because they sound bogus.

That wasn't difficult to find....

From this source:
Approximately 6,300 people were hospitalized in Illinois with COVID-19 as of late Sunday, according to data from the Illinois Department of Health. Approximately 85% of those hospitalized because of COVID-19 are unvaccinated, while 95% of the approximately 1,100 people in intensive care are unvaccinated, Pritzker said.

Waltdisney4life 01-04-2022 09:36 AM

$$$$$$$$$$

Notsocrates 01-04-2022 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

The reason to test: if the test is positive, one can take reasonable precautions not to infect others.

The Caretaker 01-04-2022 09:38 AM

Media FEAR!!

Bill14564 01-04-2022 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 2045871)
Most of the responses are against testing and for many good reasons. I would have heartedly agreed 2 days ago. As of yesterday I still agree, however, not to the same degree. Yesterday I was feeling like crap. I had a stuffy runny nose, coughing, sneezing, a slight headache and a slight back ache. I happen to have 2 BinaxNOW tests kits which I bought a few months ago. So I opened one and did the test. I was expecting a negative result – probably a cold or maybe some flu symptoms. No such luck it came up positive. I immediately texted my doctor to see what, if anything, I should do. He has not, as yet, gotten back to me. I will take the second test next Saturday to see if it comes up negative. In the meantime, given that I know I have it I won’t be running around spreading it. Yesterday the symptoms were mild, not so much last night. I didn’t get any sleep as it was difficult breathing with my stuffed up nostrils and my temperature fluctuated between 99 and 102. And yes, I had both Pfizer shots and the booster. So yes, I do agree that most of this testing hysteria is uncalled for but there are a few instances where it may be prudent.

Thank you for your post - sincerely.

A question: Since the test came back positive you won't be running around to spread it. What if the test had come back negative, would you have wandered out into public with a cold or flu? Perhaps a good approach for everyone is to not venture into public if you have symptoms of a cold, flu, or covid.

kendi 01-04-2022 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2045698)
A doctor told a friend of mine that he cannot get the pills.

The friend has tested positive with some pretty significant symptoms. He was told to take his pulse/ox and go to an ER if the numbers drop significantly. The doc said that the fact that he has been vaccinated and boosted is very much in his favor.

The ERs are full of Covid patients. The news in my home city in Ohio just reported that some of the hospitals are prioritizing necessary surgeries and postponing elective surgeries. One hospital even clearly announced that they are clearing beds for an onslaught of the unvaccinated. . .Just imagine someone needing a heart surgery but being put off because of somebody who refused the vaccine for no good reason.

Boomer

Your friend needs a new doctor.

Dana1963 01-04-2022 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

A person must be pretty dedicated to wait in line for free test.
Many Companies require a weekly Covid test for unvaxed workers.
Foreign Travel including Cruises.
If testing positive it’s required to return to work and receive paid sick benefits.
If you remember upon the start of this Covid Pandemic in 2020 The Villages people were lining up for Covid testing for about 250 tests daily by appointment.
Well it’s Deja Vu 2 years later. Now we are in the Flu season along with Omicron and Covid Delta strain.

Scorpyo 01-04-2022 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2045886)
Thank you for your post - sincerely.

A question: Since the test came back positive you won't be running around to spread it. What if the test had come back negative, would you have wandered out into public with a cold or flu? Perhaps a good approach for everyone is to not venture into public if you have symptoms of a cold, flu, or covid.

Honestly - probably. In my 73 years I've never had the flu. In realistic terms I never thought I had the flu. When I was sick I simply thought it was a cold, however, it could have been a flu. How many of us went to school with a cold? How many went to work? For most of us we never even thought about a cold or flu. Unless we were really sick life went on. It wasn't until Wuhan shared Covid with us did we ever consider wearing masks.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 01-04-2022 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgettinger01 (Post 2045851)
If you are not going to get vaccinated why test? The test is only valid at the time it is taken. After the test you might contract it. Testing is a waste of money and time.

Because if you do have it, you might give it unknowingly to someone who is vulnerable to serious illness.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 01-04-2022 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waltdisney4life (Post 2045881)
$$$$$$$$$$

Everything is about money but that is the system we have now. Unless we change it, it will always be about money. You have a solution for this?

Byte1 01-04-2022 10:01 AM

So, you go to CVS and take your test. Two days later, you receive your results and they indicate "Negative." Two days ago, after testing you go shopping at Publix and stop to chat with a friend you bumped into. That friend was infected. You receive your test results in the mail today indicating that you are "negative" for covid. That was two days ago. So, you brag to everyone that you tested "negative" so you can do whatever you wish, including going on a cruise. The cruise folks read your negative test results and allow you to board the ship, along with thousands of others that had their tests two days prior. Guess what?
In order to start working at a job they require a negative test. You received your test from two days prior testing and start work today. For the last two days, you stopped to chat with a neighbor that was walking her dog. You also went grocery shopping. You went out to dinner with some friends. You started work today after being tested two days ago. Guess what?
Testing negative is only good for the time you were tested, minutes before being in contact with anyone else that may be infected.
My opinion is that Covid testing is only good as a diagnostic for doctors to know what to treat, just like testing for the Flu or TB, etc.

YeOldeCurmudgeon 01-04-2022 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 2045903)
Honestly - probably. In my 73 years I've never had the flu. In realistic terms I never thought I had the flu. When I was sick I simply thought it was a cold, however, it could have been a flu. How many of us went to school with a cold? How many went to work? For most of us we never even thought about a cold or flu. Unless we were really sick life went on. It wasn't until Wuhan shared Covid with us did we ever consider wearing masks.

Easy to say for you, but a family member who was vaccinated got it and ended up in the hospital for four days -- she has asthma which made her vulnerable. The whole point of vaccinations is as much about keeping yourself safe as saving the lives of others.

ficoguy 01-04-2022 10:12 AM

Spend spend spend.....we bought 144,000 ventilators with taxpayer funds and they're sitting in warehouses. Somebody is making a killing.

JMintzer 01-04-2022 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2045910)
So, you go to CVS and take your test. Two days later, you receive your results and they indicate "Negative." Two days ago, after testing you go shopping at Publix and stop to chat with a friend you bumped into. That friend was infected. You receive your test results in the mail today indicating that you are "negative" for covid. That was two days ago. So, you brag to everyone that you tested "negative" so you can do whatever you wish, including going on a cruise. The cruise folks read your negative test results and allow you to board the ship, along with thousands of others that had their tests two days prior. Guess what?
In order to start working at a job they require a negative test. You received your test from two days prior testing and start work today. For the last two days, you stopped to chat with a neighbor that was walking her dog. You also went grocery shopping. You went out to dinner with some friends. You started work today after being tested two days ago. Guess what?
Testing negative is only good for the time you were tested, minutes before being in contact with anyone else that may be infected.
My opinion is that Covid testing is only good as a diagnostic for doctors to know what to treat, just like testing for the Flu or TB, etc.

And don't forget that the CDC now says you can test positive for up to 12 weeks AFTER you had Covid. Even if you had an asymptomatic case...

Teena Q 01-04-2022 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotneko (Post 2045651)
because people are idiots. How many asymptomatic people are testing? It's like the tree falling in the forest lol. Lf you test positive for covid, but have no symptoms, does it count? Well, answer is yes - which is why our positivity rate is way up, yet our hospitalizations arent.

agree!

donfey 01-04-2022 10:59 AM

covid testing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

Because without testing, those who have the antibodies WITHOUT SYMPTOMS wouldn't be counted, adding to the hype. It's long past time for this game to be over.

toeser 01-04-2022 11:07 AM

I have never been tested and I have no intention of ever being tested unless I have symptoms or am forced to test to get on a cruise, etc.

I don't believe in wasting resources that may be more needed by others.

maistocars 01-04-2022 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

The irony is that these people, who likely have no symptoms, are standing in long lines in the freezing cold right next to each other. Talk about a recipe for getting sick when they weren't originally sick. Just head shaking.

DAVES 01-04-2022 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

As WE surely realize people DEMAND something be done. People with the job title, need to do something. Is it justified? Is it cost effective? It is almost a non-asked question. A news interview. Imagine, I don't know what to do so I am doing nothing.
Sometime doing nothing is the right thing to do.

DAVES 01-04-2022 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toeser (Post 2045955)
I have never been tested and I have no intention of ever being tested unless I have symptoms or am forced to test to get on a cruise, etc.

I don't believe in wasting resources that may be more needed by others.

PERHAPS, but with covid we do not have any VALID baseline data. We read hear it is up two hundreds of a percent. IT MEANS NOTHING since we do not have accurate, VALID information on what it was.

DAVES 01-04-2022 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donfey (Post 2045953)
Because without testing, those who have the antibodies WITHOUT SYMPTOMS wouldn't be counted, adding to the hype. It's long past time for this game to be over.

"It is long time for this game to be over." I agree but it will not end. It has taken on a life of it's own. So many examples. The march of dimes was created to deal with POLIO. Polio was vaccinated out of existence in the US. March of dimes is still here.

Global warming. Am I the only one to notice it is now climate change? Climate has always been changing.

Pollution. You cannot end pollution. A volcanic eruption a forest fire due to lightening all cause pollution

No shortage of other examples.

twinklesweep 01-04-2022 12:28 PM

Could this be analogous to sowing one's wild oats all week and then going to church on Sunday to pray for a crop failure?

That is, could it be that people are irresponsibly exposing themselves (and possibly indirectly exposing others) to Covid, thinking this is acceptable behavior since testing is available?

Escape Artist 01-04-2022 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

What happened to the 500 million at-home test kits Biden said they were sending out?

TV aside, employers, places of business and other venues, or in order participate in an event requires a negative test. And Omicrom is so much more contagious it's spreading like wildfire everywhere. Therefore it makes sense more people want or need to be tested.

Old Bob 01-04-2022 01:28 PM

covid test
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

I don't understand why anyone would want to be tested. Either you are sick or not, and I think I can tell the difference without a test.

Altavia 01-04-2022 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pachine58 (Post 2045829)
So omicron is a highly contagious as the measles was, so just figure your going to get it. Good thing is it is milder and has no lung component. Aches, fever 102, chills , etc like flu. Lasts 3-5 days. Good news this variant will build up antibodies against delta the more deadly version. So why test you either got or you don’t, so test is pointless now.

Agree with one exception.

Omicron is a very different virus. No worse than a bad cold for most vaccinated.

As said before, those not are overwhelming hospitals in many locations.

Love2Swim 01-04-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notsocrates (Post 2045882)
The reason to test: if the test is positive, one can take reasonable precautions not to infect others.

The answer is so obvious. Those that won't test clearly don't care who they might infect. They're only thinking about themselves. The sad thing is that kids, many who have not been vaccinated yet, are the ones getting it and ending up in the hospital due to its severity.

golfing eagles 01-04-2022 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Bob (Post 2046005)
I don't understand why anyone would want to be tested. Either you are sick or not, and I think I can tell the difference without a test.

But there are thousands of asymptomatic people in the long lines to get tested. To those that think it is so wonderful to get tested for no reason, consider this: Every year 35-70,000 Americans die from influenza (but apparently no longer now that we can blame COVID). Has anyone, EVER gone and get tested for flu if they had no symptoms???? Did thousands of asymptomatic people go wait in line to get tested for flu???? Did government offices and cruise ships require masks PLUS proof of flu vaccination to enter????? The scale may be a bit larger (how much larger is hard to say since EVERY sniffle is being reported as COVID), but the principle is the same.

golfing eagles 01-04-2022 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2046024)
The answer is so obvious. Those that won't test clearly don't care who they might infect. They're only thinking about themselves. The sad thing is that kids, many who have not been vaccinated yet, are the ones getting it and ending up in the hospital due to its severity.

So......are you suggesting that every person test twice a day, EVERY DAY or be considered "selfish"????

CoachKandSportsguy 01-04-2022 03:58 PM

I didn't read all the posts, but the workforce and the employers require them for both not working sick days and back to work, as well as air transportation, and hospital procedures. Employers won't accept rapid tests for a reason not to come to work. . . PCR test result different issue. . .

So yes, there are many reasons why people have to get PCR tests. How do I know? I ask a positive working person when he had to get PCR tests, and his answer was above. . . he wanted to use the rapid test results but that wasn't acceptable.

An answer i would not expect retirees to be familiar with. . .

billethkid 01-04-2022 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2046024)
The answer is so obvious. Those that won't test clearly don't care who they might infect. They're only thinking about themselves. The sad thing is that kids, many who have not been vaccinated yet, are the ones getting it and ending up in the hospital due to its severity.

NOT TRUE!!!!
Totally emotional/biased off the mark assertion!

npwalters 01-04-2022 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2046041)
I didn't read all the posts, but the workforce and the employers require them for both not working sick days and back to work, as well as air transportation, and hospital procedures. Employers won't accept rapid tests for a reason not to come to work. . . PCR test result different issue. . .

So yes, there are many reasons why people have to get PCR tests. How do I know? I ask a positive working person when he had to get PCR tests, and his answer was above. . . he wanted to use the rapid test results but that wasn't acceptable.

An answer i would not expect retirees to be familiar with. . .

Read post #11 in this thread. Even us retired folks read the news and keep up with current events.

JMintzer 01-04-2022 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2046024)
The answer is so obvious. Those that won't test clearly don't care who they might infect. They're only thinking about themselves. The sad thing is that kids, many who have not been vaccinated yet, are the ones getting it and ending up in the hospital due to its severity.

Sorry, but this is simply not true.

Despite what the headlines say, in reality, yes, they are seeing more kids in the hospital with positive covid tests. BUT... They are not being admitted for covid. They are being admitted for the normal kid things, and since they test EVERYONE admitted, they are seeing more incidental positive tests.

So, more kids are being admitted WITH an incidental positive covid test, NOT due to covid...

kkingston57 01-04-2022 05:02 PM

I have no idea as to why there is so much demand. I am very happy(for myself) that I am not doing anything(such as taking a cruise which requires a test. Hoping this calms down soon.

Saw one news cast that said there were vaccinations at same site and short lines.

Go figure!

maistocars 01-04-2022 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2045698)
A doctor told a friend of mine that he cannot get the pills.

The friend has tested positive with some pretty significant symptoms. He was told to take his pulse/ox and go to an ER if the numbers drop significantly. The doc said that the fact that he has been vaccinated and boosted is very much in his favor.

The ERs are full of Covid patients. The news in my home city in Ohio just reported that some of the hospitals are prioritizing necessary surgeries and postponing elective surgeries. One hospital even clearly announced that they are clearing beds for an onslaught of the unvaccinated. . .Just imagine someone needing a heart surgery but being put off because of somebody who refused the vaccine for no good reason.

Boomer

and then you realized Parse, that it was the other way around. Latest data out of Ontario, Canada shows over 70% of those in hospitals are vaxxed. Unfortunately, we don't keep those stats (we can see why now). SOURCE: COVID-19 vaccinations data | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario


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