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kkingston57 01-04-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Caretaker (Post 2045885)
Media FEAR!!

Agree it appears that there are way too many people are testing.

Media did not create the long lines of people in their cars waiting to get tested. Bet 80% of them were OK and not needing a test to do something like travel.

Bill14564 01-04-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2046063)
and then you realized Parse, that it was the other way around. Latest data out of Ontario, Canada shows over 70% of those in hospitals are vaxxed. Unfortunately, we don't keep those stats (we can see why now). SOURCE: COVID-19 vaccinations data | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario

Makes me glad I don't live in Canada at the moment. It looks like they are heading into another three weeks of no indoor dining at restaurants.

With over 90% of their teens and older vaccinated, it is little surprise that the people the virus finds to infect are primarily vaccinated - there just aren't many unvaccinated people left.

It looks like there are a little less than 100 cases for every 100,000 people in Ontario, CA. In Florida the number is currently 263 with a bullet. Whether it is their high vaccination rate or their restrictions, something seems to be working for Ontario.

Love2Swim 01-04-2022 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2046055)
Sorry, but this is simply not true.

Despite what the headlines say, in reality, yes, they are seeing more kids in the hospital with positive covid tests. BUT... They are not being admitted for covid. They are being admitted for the normal kid things, and since they test EVERYONE admitted, they are seeing more incidental positive tests.

So, more kids are being admitted WITH an incidental positive covid test, NOT due to covid...

According to the news, almost 199,000 child COVID-19 cases were reported during the week of Dec. 16-23, and children are being admitted to the hospital with Covid in record numbers. Experts lament that most of the youngsters are not vaccinated.

Scorpyo 01-04-2022 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon (Post 2045911)
Easy to say for you, but a family member who was vaccinated got it and ended up in the hospital for four days -- she has asthma which made her vulnerable. The whole point of vaccinations is as much about keeping yourself safe as saving the lives of others.

Kindly read my original post 44 and a question I received 51. It should give you more context to the post to which you responded.

JMintzer 01-04-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2046075)
According to the news, almost 199,000 child COVID-19 cases were reported during the week of Dec. 16-23, and children are being admitted to the hospital with Covid in record numbers. Experts lament that most of the youngsters are not vaccinated.

Did you not read what I wrote?

There is a difference between being admitted to the hospital and having a positive covid test and being admitted to the hospital DUE TO COVID...

And you just gave a perfect example of what I was talking about. The HEADLINES vs reality...

Once again, children are NOT being admitted to hospitals in record numbers DUE TO COVID...

golfing eagles 01-04-2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2046075)
According to the news, almost 199,000 child COVID-19 cases were reported during the week of Dec. 16-23, and children are being admitted to the hospital with Covid in record numbers. Experts lament that most of the youngsters are not vaccinated.

Now, define "a case" of COVID-19. Answer----a positive test. So more importantly, how many children are in the ICU and how many have died???? Last numbers I saw (yesterday) was that over 800,000 Americans died of?(with?) COVID and 779 were children. That's less than 0.1%. And the reason that most weren't vaccinated was that children who were vaccinated and then had a breakthrough case had very mild symptoms, almost indistinguishable from a cold. Also, note that vaccine approval for children 5-11 came fairly late in the game.

jimjamuser 01-04-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

For purposes of "empathy"! No man (woman) is an island, therefore, if you are asymptomatic and have a viral load, then you MAY (?) want to NOT visit people in The Villages ( ALL are old) and KILL or hospitalize them. Just basic, "do unto others and etc"! So, you get tested.

jimjamuser 01-04-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2045656)
Media hype

Both a fast-moving fire and a slow-moving fire can burn down your home, but a fast-moving fire is more likely to KILL you!

jimjamuser 01-04-2022 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2045666)
But, you don’t have to pay out of pocket at free sites. Why no line at pay sites which are over charging. We the people have NO control how governments spend taxpayers money.

You can control government (but slowly) by elections every other November.

jimjamuser 01-04-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2045765)
We are trying to come back on line and…….Air travel requires testing, cruise lines require testing, medical workers require testing, etc. (some of the demand is not self imposed). We get our tests @ $40 a pop and hear it is going up to $50 soon. Believe me we don’t relish that added expense to fly or cruise

I am reluctant to fly and would DEFINATELY not go on a cruise. Too much life to live right here in the good old US of A!

PattiQ 01-05-2022 05:46 AM

Yep... Biden ordered them... gotta use them.

HeleneGB 01-05-2022 06:01 AM

Not in Florida

jswirs 01-05-2022 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2045813)
If you have possible symptoms but a negative test, you don’t have to go into quarantine. If you have symptoms and a positive test, then if you are a person with morals who deserves to be considered human, you go into quarantine until you are negative so you don’t spread it. If you’ve spent time with someone positive, you could have an asymptomatic case that spreads to others and may put them in the hospital—or the graveyard. Again, it comes down to whether you have morals and live your neighbor as yourself or are just selfish.

And so, according to your logic, we all need to be tested about once per week, for the foreseeable future, which, most likely, would be years. Otherwise, we wouldn't know if we deserve to be considered human. No thank you, I would not want to live in your world.

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2046152)
And so, according to your logic, we all need to be tested about once per week, for the foreseeable future, which, most likely, would be years. Otherwise, we wouldn't know if we deserve to be considered human. No thank you, I would not want to live in your world.

More like twice a day. There was no logic to the post you were responding to whatsoever.

mlmarr 01-05-2022 06:53 AM

absolutely ..

talked with a pt yesterday .. they were out running errands the wife sneezed .. off they went to get tested .. just because they might ... .. turn off main stream media and do your own research ..

irishwonone 01-05-2022 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2045677)
Fake testing sites are popping up in Philadelphia, used to steal identities. They’ve been doing it for weeks, the city just figured it out. They put pop up tents up in the streets.

City warns residents of fake pop-up COVID-19 testing sites

Wow that’s pathetic. With all the available job openings some still choose to steal. Although I am curious if they actually prosecute these people any more.

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmarr (Post 2046175)
absolutely ..

talked with a pt yesterday .. they were out running errands the wife sneezed .. off they went to get tested .. just because they might ... .. turn off main stream media and do your own research ..

Turn off the MSM----great advice

"Do your own research", well, not so much:

CoachKandSportsguy 01-05-2022 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2046052)
Read post #11 in this thread. Even us retired folks read the news and keep up with current events.

ah, but the point was that retirees don't have employment requirements any more, not about the news. . . and I dream about that day within the next 3 years. . . adult sleep over camp!


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Altavia 01-05-2022 07:30 AM

One reason to get tested is to know you if may have gained some additional level of immunity.

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2046198)
One reason to get tested is to know you if may have gained some additional level of immunity.

Huh?????

Neither the rapid antigen or PCR Covid test will do that.

You could, in theory, get an antibody test, but the only commercially available one tests for only one antibody, and there are at least 5 involved in conferring immunity. Besides, if you were to find out that you had "an additional level of immunity", what would you do differently????

JeanC 01-05-2022 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

The working population have to be tested if they have have symptoms in order to return to work. Or if they are looking for a reason to not be at work 🤷🏼*♀️ But there are folks who have to get tested because they are symptomatic. Albeit, currently there are other viruses going around unrelated to covid that mimics covid symptoms and sadly this is causing the long lines as well. It’s also causing a lot of difficulty in getting to see a doctor for something that is not covid but just sounds like covid.

Blackbird45 01-05-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2045649)
I don't recall test sites/locations having blocks/miles long lines of people waiting to get tested.

If the omicron strain is more flu like than delta.....with less need for hospitalization and less incidences of death....why the "seemingly" panic to get tested?

The demand during the regular covid strain and then the delta strain during 2021 did not seem to result in such demand?!

I spoke with my daughter yesterday, both her, her husband and my 7-year-old grandson
tested positive even though they have all been vaccinated. My daughter and husband both work from home, but school just started, and she is keeping him home, so he does not infect any other children. I think the panic is ridiculous, but it you are fully vaccinated, and you feel like you have flu, and you can get test why not.

Lindaws 01-05-2022 08:29 AM

Agreed

gwenhwalker@yahoo.com 01-05-2022 08:29 AM

I would think if you were really sick with covid you wouldn't be able to stand in these lines

Marine1974 01-05-2022 08:39 AM

Over 1 million new cases of Covid in one day in the U.S is driving testing.

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2046256)
Over 1 million new cases of Covid in one day in the U.S is driving testing.

Got that backwards------millions of people rushing to get tested for whatever reason is driving the 1 million "new cases". (and the tragedy is that they consider a positive test a "case").

I would suggest that the powers that be make a true definition of what a "case" of COVID is.

Might be something like 5/9 clinical criteria with a positive COVID test AND a negative flu test. (Since amazingly, there has been no seasonal flu for 2 years)

JMintzer 01-05-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2046256)
Over 1 million new cases of Covid in one day in the U.S is driving testing.

Or, increased testing is discovering the 1 million "new" cases...

Or are they?

MidWestIA 01-05-2022 08:44 AM

Tests
 
The need is to know if you are safe to be by people who can't or won't vaccinate but you almost need to do it the same day. Radio story about researchers going to a antarctic remote location tested and quarantined for 9? days and still got covid there. They said a test a couple days ago means nothing

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2046264)
The need is to know if you are safe to be by people who can't or won't vaccinate but you almost need to do it the same day. Radio story about researchers going to a antarctic remote location tested and quarantined for 9? days and still got covid there. They said a test a couple days ago means nothing

Exactly. The best comment I saw on TV was by a taxi driver at JFK who had an IQ of about 70. He said, right on day one of omicron being discovered in S. Africa, that we are kidding ourselves if we think it isn't here already when it is first "discovered" over there, and even more delusional if we think we are going to contain it. Too bad the experts are practicing politics (while the population is slowly getting stoned, to borrow a line from Billy Joel)

Two Bills 01-05-2022 08:50 AM

If you have no symptoms, and do not need proof of negative test, why queue with a lot of people, when many may be positive?
Or is the testing station the new, old fashioned, 'Measles Party' we had when I was a kid?

Topspinmo 01-05-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 2045747)
The unvaccinated are being lumped in with people who had Covid early pre vacc and have better resistance than the vaccinated….most conversations about this are muted by media that take advertising money from big pharma….if the vaccine is so good why do you need 3 or 4 of them? Think about it….Covid is leaving us as evidence is it’s half life potency….. but capitalism is going to squeeze every last dollar out of it…..and yes as a prior poster noted….people are stupid…

Well, let’s make some guesses, it you have something to sell and it only take one then eventually you will go out of business. But, if you make something that have to be repeating brought $$$$$$$$ gold mine.

Topspinmo 01-05-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2046264)
The need is to know if you are safe to be by people who can't or won't vaccinate but you almost need to do it the same day. Radio story about researchers going to a antarctic remote location tested and quarantined for 9? days and still got covid there. They said a test a couple days ago means nothing


But, you’re only safe till you venture out or be around someone. Which means unless you get tested every day or two or week or month…….plus you might have caught it on way home it you stopped anywhere..… :)

Topspinmo 01-05-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HeleneGB (Post 2046148)
Not in Florida

Not anywhere else that served it purpose.

GeriS 01-05-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2045879)
That wasn't difficult to find....

From this source:
Approximately 6,300 people were hospitalized in Illinois with COVID-19 as of late Sunday, according to data from the Illinois Department of Health. Approximately 85% of those hospitalized because of COVID-19 are unvaccinated, while 95% of the approximately 1,100 people in intensive care are unvaccinated, Pritzker said.

And you still believe the media?

Marine1974 01-05-2022 09:09 AM

They in most cases are trying to protect their loved ones , co-workers and their community by being tested to know whether to
Quarantine.

B-flat 01-05-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2045735)
You cannot underestimate the gullibility of the masses.

Ditto!!

Want to read an eye-opener? Pick up a copy of Robert F. Kennedy Jrs' book about Gates, Fauci and Big Pharma. Doesn't matter what party you support because aside from party lines it affects everyone. It's very heavy reading and more like a text book.

Also you may to look up the topic online of "mass formation pyschosis." There's lots of material published and even a 7 minute video on You tube.

Marine1974 01-05-2022 09:15 AM

Well that’s a nice theory , testing is driving up Covid cases , really ?
If people do not know they have Covid and do not quarantine watch what happens to the numbers .

nick demis 01-05-2022 09:16 AM

No symptoms should cost $50.00 per test and you will have plenty of test available.

golfing eagles 01-05-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2046283)
They in most cases are trying to protect their loved ones , co-workers and their community by being tested to know whether to
Quarantine.

Would be nice to think so, but I doubt those that are on a line for many hours are that altruistic. They are either:

a) required to have a negative test to return to work
b) planning on travel that requires a negative test
c) mistakenly believe that a negative test is somehow going to save the world or themselves
d) or just plain covidiots

I wish you were correct and that most people are testing out of concern for their fellow citizens, but alas, I am doubtful.

billethkid 01-05-2022 09:19 AM

So a person that tests positive, that gets tested next week to see if they still have it, tests positive again....that is counted as two "cases".
And again the following week = 3 cases!

Until the media and the government find advantage for their agenda in positive results....there will be none!


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