Why our cure is worse than the disease! We have inflicted permanent damage to the very fabric of this country, under the guise of fixing it! Even in the very best of scenarios it will take MORE THAN a generation to recover, as a country, just to the point we were when the shut down occurred. (1) At the national level, the first relief package to repay for shutdown was $2.4 TRILLION, and there's talk of up to 3 more similar packages. Don't even try to get your head around what this will do to future capabilities of our federal government! They (we) are crippled for the next generation. (2) The effect at state level is easier to understand since city, county, and state governments are required by law to actually have money before they spend it. They can not live in the fiscal fantasy world our congress has created. The first moment of the shut down we created 30 Million newly unemployed, with many more following. Unemployment payments are a state responsibility. With the shut down we actually, and literally, bankrupted every state. So to compensate, the feds authorized loaning every state the needed money from the Federal Reserve. Eleven states have so far applied. (California, NY. NJ. Connecticut, Illinois, Texas, Mass. Ohio, West VA, Washington.) Pardon, but can't resist laughing about California. Upon shut down they authorized $150 million in payments to illegal "sanctuary" immigrants since the Feds did not include them in their corona virus program. Then the next day they applied for a $10.1 billion federal loan to pay their unemployed, because California is broke.

Fat dumb and run by China Oh!!! Wow sounds like the options of ANGER man the guys you see pushing the carts fast down the wrong way in aisles at Publix with no masks 😊😊😊

Where is the comparison of the normal number of deaths from all other causes compared to COVID19? I believe the media/goverment is instill fear as a method of thought control. Things are never as bad as portrayed nor as good as pictured. Get with living...your life

This is the way the MSM pulls their chicanery to further their agenda all the time. Unfortunately, we, the Great Unwashed, are too naïve to see through their deceit … or, at least many of us :icon_wink:

Fred

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CDC says 80,000 died from the Flu in 2017/2018 season, varies per year depending on strain

Flu season deaths top 80,000 last year, CDC says - CNN

Yes. What is/has been the daily/weekly death rate before the virus compared to the current exploited virus numbers?

Then compare to the infection and death rate for the annual flu.

There seems to be a need by the media and those in authority to retain a fear factor.

And let us not forget that certain number attainments equate to monetary benefits from the state or federal coffers.

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1761032]Also the stats didn’t say anything about how many millions of people that don’t have jobs to go back to. This is a terrible pressure for a president to have to think about. Personally I think both political parties should get together & figure this epidemic out first instead of thinking about how to get their party elected! You said it exactly right, graciegirl.

You ought to know these numbers are highly inflated. Way too much false news about this virus. All of which is to keep many living in fear. As long as they effectively do so it will continue to help promote the hidden agenda of this shutdown.

The curve has flattened? Maybe the lack of testing and reporting is flattening. We can be gaslit into believing all is well, but don't be fooled. DeSantis doesn't want to count those that don't live full time in Florida, to the overall count. So if someone lives in Kentucky, but dies or tests positive for Covid 19, in Ohio, they don't count as deaths or confirmed cases in Ohio? Say what?

Please don't just repeat. Look at numbers of other viruses and death rate. What we should be worried about is not Covid 19, but a real medical emergency while our doctors and nurses are furloughed(yes, the ones we praise as heros...) and our hospitals are losing so much money. This is media and politics over the top and we all all being good little manageable citizens. We should be sticking together and asking good questions. Just keep praying and wash your hands because that is really all we can do🇺🇲🇺🇲

[QUOTE=sallybowron;1761513]First, PLEASE STOP SHOUTING, then, if you are immunologically suppressed, as you say, it begs the question, why on earth go to a rec center. And, to top it off, complain of others' behavior :ohdear: You can breathe the same air in your lanai or patio :icon_wink:

Fred

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1761519]I don't know how the quote function is getting messed up but I did NOT say the following:
How does one get their sustenance if they cannot go out? Even the people who need to stay at home need food, money from the bank, religious services, etc. My husband and I have stayed home for almost 4 weeks but we see other people gathering in large groups without masks. WE WENT TO A REC CENTER AND SAT IN THE PAVILLION, NO ONE BUT US WERE WEARING MASKS. THE OTHER GROUP WAS A GROUP OF 25 PEOPLE AND ONLY ONE WORE A MASK. THEY WERE NOT SIX FEET APART.SINCE I AM IMMUNOLOGICALLY SUPPRESSED DUE TO CHEMO, I AM AT AN EVEN HIGHER RISK THAN OTHERS. tHE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT CDC PUTS OUT ARE POSSIBLY KILLING US.

Hello everyone.....
Sallyboron is the poster who made this quote. It was NOT me (coffeebean). I had to go back several pages to find this original post. I've noticed there are other posters who are not being quoted properly. I don't know why the quote function is not working properly. Could it be operator error from the posters? I just don't know.

[QUOTE=sallybowron;1761513]No, if you are immunosuppressed and out at a pavilion, you may be killing YOURSELF

Hello golfing eagles.....
This is coffeebean. You posted a quote that said the quote was "Originally posted by coffeebean", but it is NOT my quote. I don't understand how the quote function has gotten so wonky. Just to let you know....I am not immunosupressed. Sallybowron made that statement that you quoted. I wish this quote would get straightened out.

Don't be injecting common sense into this thread, Steven … shame :icon_wink:

Fred

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1761519]
Hello GoodLife.......
I've been trying to figure out where this quote thing got messed up. It was Sallybowron who first some how some way got my username attatched to a post she made. Then my username was not used in a quote supposedly by you when it actually WAS my comments.

I'm sure this is as clear as mud. I'm going to forget this ever happened. I just wish folks would use the "Reply With Quote" button properly. Just thought.....is it possible folks are clicking on the "Multi Quote" button by mistake? Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=coffeebean;1761862]There must be a glitch in the system. Your post just gave my quote as to belonging to Sallybowron.

PS: After 6,000+ posts, I'm pretty sure I know how to use the quote button correctly:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;1761876]I KNOW that you know how to quote. You've been around a long time. That is why I figured something must be wonky.

Thanks for letting me know.

[QUOTE=coffeebean;1761874]The quote function is working properly. Unfortunately, Sallybowron quoted a post from coffeebean that contained the quote she responded to, not coffeebean’s post. Thus anyone quoting Sallybowron’s post results in the appearance coffeebean made the post. It is important to quote the actual post you are responding to.

Moderator

Hello golfing eagles....

My username (coffeebean) was just attached to your comment. I think I'm going to report this problem to the TOTV Team.

EDIT: I didn't report this because it has been explained by the moderator that the quote problem was made in error by one of the posters. So.......problem solved.

Thanks to the moderator for clearing up this confusion. Sorry to all the posters who did not want to be bothered by reading about this problem.

If you don't want to go out, you don't have to. Just stay home.

Is there a good method to do this?

Fred

There is a TOTV forum just for problems or concerns about the forum. Here is a link to it.....

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...stion-box-425/

Who's on first?!

Thank you

Fred

Yes, the root of all evil. Then more money yields power. Then absolute power which corrupts absolutely.

An emergency has a way of revealing character and leadership.

The quote and the post are not sympatico.

The 1918 flu originated in Kansas at some Army base. It was called incorrectly the Spanish Flu to keep from scaring troops going to WW1. H. Hoover kept it a secret. In the close quarters of ships crossing the Atlantic, it spread. 62% of battlefield deaths were from the flu, not the battlefield.

Next fall and winter we have both CV and flu looming.

That was seriously humorous. Good job.

I hear that there is a vaccine for the flu?

Not enough hear though since only half the population bother to get it....even with numbers like this:

2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates | CDC

Annually!!!!!!!

Thought control-----I need to think about that.

Probably not true. There are several theories, theories not facts, as to where the Spanish Flu originated, including China. Nobody knows.

Maybe you should pose your question to a few of the 30 million now unemployed. The social and medical consequences that will result will last for years.

Well said.