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Samfl 05-09-2020 07:59 AM
You can choose to wait for the Perfect time to open up or you can slowly begin the process which is what’s happening. There will not be a perfect time. Stay home if you are concerned. We have got to start reopening this country. The Herd immunity will begin to take effect by getting out into the sunshine.

ts12755 05-09-2020 08:00 AM
Everyone will get this virus. Only 100% isolation will keep it from you.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-09-2020 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by maxfl1 (Post 1761481)
All those who are receiving income or financially solid and want things to stay closed should have no say in the matter. And, remember, two years ago almost a million were hospitalized and there were about 80,000 deaths (per CDC) and nothing closed, nothing in the news about it either You have trade offs to make. There are millions suffering with zero income and many sit at home fat, dumb and happy. Nope. You are free to stay home but the others must get back to work (you do realize payroll taxes fund medicare, et. al., right?)

Another thing.....are we going to close down again next year? the year after? You realize sooner or later we will be hit again with another flu epidemic, right? Next time, nothing closes. You have to trust people will take precautions to protect themselves (like we have before) and others can stay at home again fat dumb and happy if they want. Otherwise, it's goodbye USA and by that time you probably should learn to speak Chinese.
The point of closing down and having all these restrictions isn't to stop the virus. It's to slow it down, and give science and the medical community time to create a vaccine and discover safe treatments for people who come down with it.

That way even if it does return next season, we will have the tools to manage it. Not necessarily cure it, and not prevent it 100% but MINIMIZE the risk, MINIMIZE the suffering, MINIMIZE the deaths that result from it.

We have no way of doing that currently except to shut things down and keep everyone away from each other. That obviously isn't something we can do long-term. It is a temporary pause so they can come up with something better, for the next time it happens.

Waltdisney4life 05-09-2020 08:02 AM
Sell the fear baby!

ficoguy 05-09-2020 08:03 AM
Lake/Marion/Sumter: Population is 855,000, 678 cases, 33 deaths - if you discount prison cases and nursing home/assisted living facilities, that's 93 of the cases in Lake and Sumter. So, ah likes mah chances....

Tom53 05-09-2020 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1761588)
Right now the one thing that all experts, all people who read the statistics can agree upon is this; The highest percentage of people who die from Covid-19, most say right around 80% of the people who die of Covid-19 are over 65. And the danger goes up of their dying as they get to 80 or above.

So we are not eating lunch out or having our hair cut and know that people will do what they want.

I am telling you right now, if I know you and care about you and you go out and catch this damn bug, and you die...………………..I am not wearing my BEST dress to your memorial service next year.
After staying home this long, it probably wont fit anyway. I know my suit will be a little tight! :shocked:

wamley 05-09-2020 08:15 AM
Walked by City Fire in Sumter yesterday around 3pm and people generally were 6ft apart and moved seatc close to outside railing along the sidewalks. Some people were closer sitting table, but appeared to be husband & wives. When two couples the couple were seperated by 6ft away from the other couple. Looked pretty good to me, same at Red Sauce. It was good to see people enjoying the day with friends relatives over something to eat and a couple drinks.

GoodLife 05-09-2020 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1761588)
Right now the one thing that all experts, all people who read the statistics can agree upon is this; The highest percentage of people who die from Covid-19, most say right around 80% of the people who die of Covid-19 are over 65. And the danger goes up of their dying as they get to 80 or above.

So we are not eating lunch out or having our hair cut and know that people will do what they want.

I am telling you right now, if I know you and care about you and you go out and catch this damn bug, and you die...………………..I am not wearing my BEST dress to your memorial service next year.
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by sex and age group. United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 5/2/2020 Updated May 8

55 to 64 Covid 19 4.688 deaths Pneumonia 7.820 deaths
75 to 84 Covid 19 10,196 deaths Pneumonia 17,804 deaths
85 & up Covid 19 11,458 deaths Pneumonia 20,904 deaths

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19):

Will you wear your best dress if he catches pneumonia?

Altavia 05-09-2020 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 1761620)
Walked by City Fire in Sumter yesterday around 3pm and people generally were 6ft apart and moved seatc close to outside railing along the sidewalks. Some people were closer sitting table, but appeared to be husband & wives. When two couples the couple were seperated by 6ft away from the other couple. Looked pretty good to me, same at Red Sauce. It was good to see people enjoying the day with friends relatives over something to eat and a couple drinks.
Observed the same later in the evening, had a wonderful dinner al fresco at Chophouse. Took a walk after and people were respectful to keep their distance. A small group was dancing in unison individually and properly separated at the square.

Overall a reasonable compromise for the paradoxes around this virus from hell.

Michael22 05-09-2020 08:43 AM
Your flu stats are for one year, your covid 19 stats are for how many weeks, not one year?

GoodLife 05-09-2020 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael22 (Post 1761657)
Your flu stats are for one year, your covid 19 stats are for how many weeks, not one year?
Not my stats, they are from NCHS and CDC

Title of Table 1:

Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by sex and age group. United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 5/2/2020 Updated May 8

These are provisional stats, numbers for each will go up as death certificates are turned in.

Indydealmaker 05-09-2020 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1760989)
At 8:36 AM This mornings report

United States cases
Updated May 8 at 8:36 AM local
Confirmed
1,289,235
+29,527
Deaths
76,537
+1,956
Recovered
174,697
+3,838

Were Playing Russian Roulette
If we don't open, we will be a third world country and those deaths will be just the beginning.

Michael Charles 05-09-2020 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1761513)

How does one get their sustenance if they cannot go out? Even the people who need to stay at home need food, money from the bank, religious services, etc. My husband and I have stayed home for almost 4 weeks but we see other people gathering in large groups without masks. WE WENT TO A REC CENTER AND SAT IN THE PAVILLION, NO ONE BUT US WERE WEARING MASKS. THE OTHER GROUP WAS A GROUP OF 25 PEOPLE AND ONLY ONE WORE A MASK. THEY WERE NOT SIX FEET APART.SINCE I AM IMMUNOLOGICALLY SUPPRESSED DUE TO CHEMO, I AM AT AN EVEN HIGHER RISK THAN OTHERS. tHE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT CDC PUTS OUT ARE POSSIBLY KILLING US. :sing::sing::sing:
First of all I'm sorry that you are going through chemotherapy, my wife is also and we are scared to go anywhere because of her very weakened immune system. That said, why the heck would you go into a recreation center and sit in the pavilion if you are "IMMUNOLOGICALLY SUPPRESSED DUE TO CHEMO"? Really? So, you needed your sustenance and you thought going into a recreation center and sitting there would give you that sustenance? I hope you recover without any complications from your chemotherapy.

GoodLife 05-09-2020 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1760989)
At 8:36 AM This mornings report

United States cases
Updated May 8 at 8:36 AM local
Confirmed
1,289,235
+29,527
Deaths
76,537
+1,956
Recovered
174,697
+3,838

Were Playing Russian Roulette
More than 50% of all deaths are from 4 states. More than 50% of US counties have zero deaths from Covid 19.

• U.S. COVID-19 deaths by state | Statista

fdpaq0580 05-09-2020 09:09 AM
Right on!
 
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1761038)

I wholeheartily agree with this statement. But it comes with stipulations.

Maintain social distancing strictly, even for sporting events and concerts.

Wear masks when social distancing is not a viable option.
Absolutely agree you.


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