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ffresh 05-09-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1760989)
At 8:36 AM This mornings report

United States cases
Updated May 8 at 8:36 AM local
Confirmed
1,289,235
+29,527
Deaths
76,537
+1,956
Recovered
174,697
+3,838

Were Playing Russian Roulette

you don't have to play - STAY INDOORS and leave others to their own devices

In addition, seems like you're taking life too serious … it isn't permanent :icon_wink:


Fred

ficoguy 05-09-2020 09:24 AM

Do what you got to do

ficoguy 05-09-2020 09:25 AM

in NY 66% of people contracted CV while at home. Shocking.....

Don Ferguson 05-09-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1761521)
fake news

Better tell Cuomo. He spent 15 minutes about it and the study involved 1000 recent hospital admissions in NY. Not only were 66% "sheltering in place", but 90% of that group had not even used public transportation or shopped for their own food!

ffresh 05-09-2020 09:30 AM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1761032]
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1761030)

Because we have had no deaths in half the counties does not mean they aren't still vulnerable. I hear and agree that our economy will suffer terribly. Sometimes there are NO solutions to problems. THAT is what is scary.

Sorry, but there are solutions to ALL problems, albeit some are far from perfect; some are very close to that measure.

Fred

MandoMan 05-09-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1760995)
I am surprised that pools and restaurants are reopening. Keep hearing that City Fire has tons of people milling around all on top of each other.

https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covi...hem-avoid-them

Don Ferguson 05-09-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1761600)
The point of closing down and having all these restrictions isn't to stop the virus. It's to slow it down, and give science and the medical community time to create a vaccine and discover safe treatments for people who come down with it.

That way even if it does return next season, we will have the tools to manage it. Not necessarily cure it, and not prevent it 100% but MINIMIZE the risk, MINIMIZE the suffering, MINIMIZE the deaths that result from it.

We have no way of doing that currently except to shut things down and keep everyone away from each other. That obviously isn't something we can do long-term. It is a temporary pause so they can come up with something better, for the next time it happens.

Why our cure is worse than the disease! We have inflicted permanent damage to the very fabric of this country, under the guise of fixing it! Even in the very best of scenarios it will take MORE THAN a generation to recover, as a country, just to the point we were when the shut down occurred. (1) At the national level, the first relief package to repay for shutdown was $2.4 TRILLION, and there's talk of up to 3 more similar packages. Don't even try to get your head around what this will do to future capabilities of our federal government! They (we) are crippled for the next generation. (2) The effect at state level is easier to understand since city, county, and state governments are required by law to actually have money before they spend it. They can not live in the fiscal fantasy world our congress has created. The first moment of the shut down we created 30 Million newly unemployed, with many more following. Unemployment payments are a state responsibility. With the shut down we actually, and literally, bankrupted every state. So to compensate, the feds authorized loaning every state the needed money from the Federal Reserve. Eleven states have so far applied. (California, NY. NJ. Connecticut, Illinois, Texas, Mass. Ohio, West VA, Washington.) Pardon, but can't resist laughing about California. Upon shut down they authorized $150 million in payments to illegal "sanctuary" immigrants since the Feds did not include them in their corona virus program. Then the next day they applied for a $10.1 billion federal loan to pay their unemployed, because California is broke.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-09-2020 09:45 AM

Fat dumb and run by China Oh!!! Wow sounds like the options of ANGER man the guys you see pushing the carts fast down the wrong way in aisles at Publix with no masks 😊😊😊

dplars 05-09-2020 09:45 AM

Where is the comparison of the normal number of deaths from all other causes compared to COVID19? I believe the media/goverment is instill fear as a method of thought control. Things are never as bad as portrayed nor as good as pictured. Get with living...your life

ffresh 05-09-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1761341)
Tonight in Brownwood, bluefin, city fire, all had tables space out 6 ft. There were chairs at the bar chairs spaced out can’t be moved. This is the 5 day I have eaten out, and watched the social distance restaurants are following. Actually watched a person taking pictures, walked around both restaurants multiple times before taking a picture, from the outside.

If you looked at the angle the picture was taken, it looked like everybody was sitting on top of each other. Not the 6 feet each table was really spaced at. Took a lot of patience to finally get the picture that will make those restaurants look bad. Such a shame

Why are we opening, think of those who have no income, no food for their children, and no way to pay rent. The system failed those who apply for unemployment

This is the way the MSM pulls their chicanery to further their agenda all the time. Unfortunately, we, the Great Unwashed, are too naïve to see through their deceit … or, at least many of us :icon_wink:

Fred

GoodLife 05-09-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dplars (Post 1761736)
where is the comparison of the normal number of deaths from all other causes compared to covid19? I believe the media/goverment is instill fear as a method of thought control. Things are never as bad as portrayed nor as good as pictured. Get with living...your life

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CDC says 80,000 died from the Flu in 2017/2018 season, varies per year depending on strain

Flu season deaths top 80,000 last year, CDC says - CNN

billethkid 05-09-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dplars (Post 1761736)
Where is the comparison of the normal number of deaths from all other causes compared to COVID19? I believe the media/goverment is instill fear as a method of thought control. Things are never as bad as portrayed nor as good as pictured. Get with living...your life

Yes. What is/has been the daily/weekly death rate before the virus compared to the current exploited virus numbers?

Then compare to the infection and death rate for the annual flu.

There seems to be a need by the media and those in authority to retain a fear factor.

And let us not forget that certain number attainments equate to monetary benefits from the state or federal coffers.

OhioBuckeye 05-09-2020 10:04 AM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1761032]
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1761030)

Because we have had no deaths in half the counties does not mean they aren't still vulnerable. I hear and agree that our economy will suffer terribly. Sometimes there are NO solutions to problems. THAT is what is scary.

Also the stats didn’t say anything about how many millions of people that don’t have jobs to go back to. This is a terrible pressure for a president to have to think about. Personally I think both political parties should get together & figure this epidemic out first instead of thinking about how to get their party elected! You said it exactly right, graciegirl.

Edcarney 05-09-2020 10:15 AM

You ought to know these numbers are highly inflated. Way too much false news about this virus. All of which is to keep many living in fear. As long as they effectively do so it will continue to help promote the hidden agenda of this shutdown.

Lindsyburnsy 05-09-2020 10:59 AM

The curve has flattened? Maybe the lack of testing and reporting is flattening. We can be gaslit into believing all is well, but don't be fooled. DeSantis doesn't want to count those that don't live full time in Florida, to the overall count. So if someone lives in Kentucky, but dies or tests positive for Covid 19, in Ohio, they don't count as deaths or confirmed cases in Ohio? Say what?


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