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Guest 12-07-2015 01:35 PM

Reasonable Gun Control
 
The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

Guest 12-07-2015 01:53 PM

I also noticed that the President now calls "gun control legislation, "gun safety legislation". Kinda like how the Left's old "global warming" terminology evolved into the new "climate change". Both seem to be more palatable to those with their heads buried in the sand.

Guest 12-07-2015 02:15 PM

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I also noticed that the President now calls "gun control legislation, "gun safety legislation". Kinda like how the Left's old "global warming" terminology evolved into the new "climate change". Both seem to be more palatable to those with their heads buried in the sand.

Changing names is not important. You did not answer: 1. Do you think the President is right in saying it is insane to allow persons on the No Fly List to be able to legally purchase guns and ammunition?

2. Where in the Bible does it specifically mention that Americans have the right to own guns?

Guest 12-07-2015 03:34 PM

Terrorists and criminals don't have to buy guns legally to do an illegal deed. Besides both of the terrorists were NOT on on the no-fly list. None of the people who cross our borders are vetted and there is now way to vet refugees who have no papers.
Another thing many people on the no-fly list are on it by mistake. The govt. could put everyone on the no-fly list and then no-one could buy a gun.

Guest 12-07-2015 03:42 PM

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The govt. could put everyone on the no-fly list and then no-one could buy a gun.

Feeling paranoid?

Looneytune Jerry Falwell, Jr, wants all the students at Liberty University to carry guns.

How about all students carrying guns at the Florida-Florida State game?

Guest 12-07-2015 03:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1155668)
Feeling paranoid?

Looneytune Jerry Falwell, Jr, wants all the students at Liberty University to carry guns.

How about all students carrying guns at the Florida-Florida State game?

This would make for some very tense moments when someone does not get their way.

Guest 12-07-2015 04:56 PM

Where in the Quaran....
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1155610)
The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

does it say muslim's must kill non-muslims?

The reason...since you ask....isn't because he's a democrat...only a person with an infantile mind would think that....the reason is because he's an idiot....you must feel a great connection with him...

Guest 12-07-2015 05:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1155610)
The President has said it is insane to allow people who are on the "No Fly List" to legally purchase guns. The Republicans in Congress will not even discuss the issue. Why not? Is it just because the Democrat President has a very good idea and the Republicans will not go along with ANY idea from this President? Yep, that is the reason.

I also heard a snippet from one of Ted Cruz's speeches in Iowa. He was literally ranting and said it is a "God given right" for Americans to own guns. Where in the Bible does it mention that Americans can own guns?

Would this have made ANY difference in ANY of the mass shootings? Why is it that when liberals want to fix something, they do it stupidly? It's like a liberal seeing someone killed in a car accident, will say lets paint the cars red, instead of something logical like let's put in seatbelts. Is it really reasonable to do something, just for the sake of acting like you are doing something? Even when it doesn't do anything?

No is the answer to your question. It is a stupid idea that will make no difference. If you want to stop terrorism, you have to have a good intelligence system. Period.

Guest 12-07-2015 05:47 PM

Just more Obama security theatre
 
Columnist Jim Geraghty wrote: "He (Obama) ominously declared, "this is a matter of national security", yet for some reason, all of those people on the no-fly list and the terror watch list who allegedly represent a national security threat aren't being arrested. Earlier today Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at the Department of Homeland Security also "were on the terrorist watch list."

You know who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. Nor was the Fort Hood shooter. Nor the Boston bombers. Nor the Chattanooga shooter. In other words, no perpetrator of any major attack on American soil was on the no-fly list."

Guest 12-07-2015 06:21 PM

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Columnist Jim Geraghty wrote: "He (Obama) ominously declared, "this is a matter of national security", yet for some reason, all of those people on the no-fly list and the terror watch list who allegedly represent a national security threat aren't being arrested. Earlier today Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at the Department of Homeland Security also "were on the terrorist watch list."

You know who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. Nor was the Fort Hood shooter. Nor the Boston bombers. Nor the Chattanooga shooter. In other words, no perpetrator of any major attack on American soil was on the no-fly list."

None of that matters to Liberals. Just pass some, any, meaningless legislation and it will help them sleep better at night.

Guest 12-07-2015 06:58 PM

We already have "reasonable gun control." What more do we need? Tell you what, how about gun safety? Teach all high school kids gun safety and gun law. Make it mandatory that ALL children go through it, unless they are conscientious objectors of war and violence and will never have an occasion to handle a fire arm. Either that or institute a military conscript program and draft everyone for a year or two and give them discipline and military training.

We have gun laws and we have back ground checks. There is absolutely no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, so figure out a deterrent, hard punishment for gun related violations.

No fly list??? What a stupid idea. Only a moron would come up with an idea like that.

Guest 12-07-2015 07:13 PM

waste of time bait thread.

Guest 12-07-2015 08:14 PM

I think you would have to change the 2nd amendment to do what you want,and I really dont think you want that. The more rights that are taken away the worse off this country gets. The best thing to do is make it mandatory for every American citizen to learn how to use a gun and have one. This should be subsidized by the federal government. Do the proper back round checks that we do now. Then it should be open carry. That will end a lot of violence.

Guest 12-07-2015 09:51 PM

IMO we should be like Switzerland. Every law bidding citzen (not convicted crinmals or declare insane, that the f$$king list they should also be monitoring) household issued government fully automatic m16 in 308 calb., two cans ammo minimum, And require two years of military training.:police: It just may come to that one day?

I'll hold off on the issue 9mm Glock as being too much:wave:

Guest 12-08-2015 05:25 AM

At least it appears that everyone on here is on board with the same conclusion that worrying about the "no fly" list is just stupid. When have we ever had an occasion to get shot at by someone on the "no fly" list? Maybe Obama should go back to making executive orders declaring National Coffee week or something.


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