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Cathy H 02-13-2014 04:50 PM

Hats in Restaurants
 
A letter to the Sun today complained about men not being gentlemen when wearing dirty hats while dining in restaurants. But suppose their religion has a tradition of head coverings, or maybe they were Texans? Lets accept those hat guys just like we accept our clowns when dining in their costumes, as long as their group ate quietly.

Madelaine Amee 02-13-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathy H (Post 828834)
A letter to the Sun today complained about men not being gentlemen when wearing dirty hats while dining in restaurants. But suppose their religion has a tradition of head coverings, or maybe they were Texans? Lets accept those hat guys just like we accept our clowns when dining in their costumes, as long as their group ate quietly.

Sometime ago we were transferred to Scotland to work. My other half was in the bar after playing golf and the bar tender reached over and snatched his golf cap off his head and threw it on the ground and told him Scotsmen don't wear their hats inside! Somewhat embarrassing, but lesson learned!

Tweety Bird 02-13-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathy H (Post 828834)
A letter to the Sun today complained about men not being gentlemen when wearing dirty hats while dining in restaurants. But suppose their religion has a tradition of head coverings, or maybe they were Texans? Lets accept those hat guys just like we accept our clowns when dining in their costumes, as long as their group ate quietly.

Religious head coverings are due to respect and are clean. A dirty, stinky baseball cap?

perrjojo 02-13-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathy H (Post 828834)
A letter to the Sun today complained about men not being gentlemen when wearing dirty hats while dining in restaurants. But suppose their religion has a tradition of head coverings, or maybe they were Texans? Lets accept those hat guys just like we accept our clowns when dining in their costumes, as long as their group ate quietly.


Texas men should take off their golf/baseball caps indoors but a cowboy never, ever takes off his hat EXCEPT FOR ONE THING! Giggle, giggle. BTW, they don't like to take off their hats cuz they have "hat hair". I do agree though, caps and hats should be removed.

buggyone 02-13-2014 05:40 PM

No recognized religion requires golf caps in restaurants.

It is uncouth louts that wear golf caps while eating in restaurants.

As far as Texans, well, just see the above statement and substitute cowboy hats.

eremite06 02-13-2014 06:24 PM

"Uncouth louts!" Wow. The chefs wear hats in the kitchen. Don't they?

2BNTV 02-13-2014 06:43 PM

Not big on wearing hats so if I was wearing one, I would take it off, if I were to go into a restaurant.

Maybe some guys don't realize they have them on. :D

We use to have a guy in the old neighborhood, nicknamed, "Louie The Hat".

Nobody ever saw him without his hat, and he wore it inside our club. It seemed like it was permanetly attached to his head, or maybe he was making a fashion statement.

I think he should have given his hat a day off, once in a while. :D

gomoho 02-13-2014 07:07 PM

Wow - this could get as interesting as a dog poop thread. Do you really care if someone has his hat on in a restaurant if they are not sitting with you???

2BNTV 02-13-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 828886)
Wow - this could get as interesting as a dog poop thread. Do you really care if someone has his hat on in a restaurant if they are not sitting with you???

Yes, if it's "Louie The Hat". That thing must have been filled with germs as wore it 365 days a year. Did you ever see a baseball players cap that wasn't washed in four months. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!

gomoho 02-13-2014 07:29 PM

Ok 2B but do you think those germs are gonna jump out of the hat and get you???

e-flyer 02-13-2014 07:38 PM

I'll take my hat off when the red hat ladies remove their red hats as well……just teasing, I was always taught as a young kid to remove my hat indoors, and always wear a shirt to the dinner table.

elizabeth52 02-13-2014 07:46 PM

This is something that my mother taught us growing up. Men remove their hats when at the table. I have three younger brothers who quickly learned this. Now, the grandkids and great grandkids have also learned this.

Its simply good manners, in my opinion.

BarryRX 02-13-2014 08:11 PM

I think it's a remnant of a bygone era. I was taught in the military to "uncover" when indoors. But, I don't see many establishments with hat racks. I can always hang my coat on the back of my chair, but often struggle with finding a place to put my hat.

Matzy 02-13-2014 08:44 PM

Okay, in case of germs, long pants and shoes carrying most germs. Regarding hat: I remember that I had one student which don't like to take off the hat in school because he didn't see a reason to do so. Then I asked him why he want to leave it on and was guessing maybe he don't want all that things he right now learned want to fly off and he want to keep it tide. Believe me, I never saw him wearing a hat in classroom again.

Topspinmo 02-13-2014 08:47 PM

Ok, this is not the 1950's.:crap2: A lot of Old traditions are gone:beer3:. Only few old coots were old sweetie hats. Me personally would rather they leave them on their heads rather than lay them on the table.barf Another thing the hat might keep stuff from falling off their unwashed head. If they wear sweetie old hats you think they wash routinelybarf... I would rather see hats on heads (even turned sideways or backwards than these jeans kids were 3 sizes too big showing butt crack or underwear:pray:. But As fads change or traditions we have to adjust with them. You know obnoxious perfume leather on so thick it chokes you stink about as bad as old sweetie hats:pepper2:. Just saying we all don't like some things other people do. As for the scotty snatching somebodies hat off could be knock out time, but Bullies pick the right pigeon usually.

DougB 02-13-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Matzy (Post 828915)
Okay, in case of germs, long pants and shoes carrying most germs. Regarding hat: I remember that I had one student which don't like to take off the hat in school because he didn't see a reason to do so. Then I asked him why he want to leave it on and was guessing maybe he don't want all that things he right now learned want to fly off and he want to keep it tide. Believe me, I never saw him wearing a hat in classroom again.

Huh?

buggyone 02-13-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rc Moser (Post 828917)
Ok, this is not the 1950's.:crap2: A lot of Old traditions are gone:beer3:. Only few old coots were old sweetie hats. Me personally would rather they leave them on their heads rather than lay them on the table.barf Another thing the hat might keep stuff from falling off their unwashed head. If they wear sweetie old hats you think they wash routinelybarf... I would rather see hats on heads (even turned sideways or backwards than these jeans kids were 3 sizes too big showing butt crack or underwear:pray:. But As fads change or traditions we have to adjust with them. You know obnoxious perfume leather on so thick it chokes you stink about as bad as old sweetie hats:pepper2:. Just saying we all don't like some things other people do. As for the scotty snatching somebodies hat off could be knock out time, but Bullies pick the right pigeon usually.

I have no idea what an "old sweetie hat" is. Here in The Villages, I see guys with their golf caps on at restaurants while dining in about every establishment. I have not seen one "kid" in The Villages wearing baggy jeans.

I will stick with my original assessment of "uncouth louts".

renielarson 02-13-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matzy (Post 828915)
Okay, in case of germs, long pants and shoes carrying most germs. Regarding hat: I remember that I had one student which don't like to take off the hat in school because he didn't see a reason to do so. Then I asked him why he want to leave it on and was guessing maybe he don't want all that things he right now learned want to fly off and he want to keep it tide. Believe me, I never saw him wearing a hat in classroom again.

I respectfully apologize for not understanding your post. Would you please translate it for me? Thanks so much.

zonerboy 02-13-2014 09:32 PM

Sweaty hats, maybe.

The Great Fumar 02-13-2014 09:33 PM

A gentleman always carries a hankerchief and removes his hat indoors . if he doesn't . he's UNCOUTH ...

Case Closed .....................a very couthed fumar...:wine:

CFrance 02-13-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 828943)
Sweaty hats, maybe.

Good guess. I think you're right.

Thnonne 02-13-2014 09:48 PM

Why?
 
Nobody has given a reason why a hat should be removed when you are in a restaurant. If someone is more comfortable with their hat on, then they should be allowed to eat in comfort, their hat does not affect anyone's meal.

buggyone 02-13-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thnonne (Post 828950)
Nobody has given a reason why a hat should be removed when you are in a restaurant. If someone is more comfortable with their hat on, then they should be allowed to eat in comfort, their hat does not affect anyone's meal.

No one has given a reason to wear a shirt in a restaurant, either. Why not sit at the table without a shirt in the comfort you want?

No rules in restaurants about using silverware to eat but I certainly would not want to see someone eating their steak and mashed potatoes with their hands - especially if they did not have a shirt on!

I think common courtesy is the answer. Anything else is nothing more than an uncouth lout.

The Great Fumar 02-13-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thnonne (Post 828950)
Nobody has given a reason why a hat should be removed when you are in a restaurant. If someone is more comfortable with their hat on, then they should be allowed to eat in comfort, their hat does not affect anyone's meal.

Its called manners. rates in there with good breeding.....Some of us had to learn it while serving in the military defending our country !!!! They say Geo. started it , Washington that is !!!

fumar......:crap2:

skyguy79 02-13-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 828875)
The chefs wear hats in the kitchen. Don't they?

It's better a chef wears hats than your having to say to the waiter... "Waiter! What's that hair in my soup?!"

p.s. The waiter just might answer back..."Well, it certainly ain't doing the backstroke like a fly would if I happened to give you one of the bowls that have a fly in it!"

Thnonne 02-13-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 828951)
No one has given a reason to wear a shirt in a restaurant, either. Why not sit at the table without a shirt in the comfort you want?

No rules in restaurants about using silverware to eat but I certainly would not want to see someone Seating their steak and mashed potatoes with their hands - especially if they did not have a shirt on!

I think common courtesy is the answer. Anything else is nothing more than an uncouth lout.

So having a piece of apparel on is equivalent to not wearing clothing. Wearing a hat makes someone an uncouth lout, then why do restaurants have signs that say no shirt, no shoes, no service, but do not say no service to those wearing hats?

NECHFalcon68 02-13-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 828952)
Its called manners. rates in there with good breeding.....Some of us had to learn it while serving in the military defending our country !!!! They say Geo. started it , Washington that is !!!

fumar......:crap2:

I kept my steel pot on while in the chow line....

KeepingItReal 02-13-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thnonne (Post 828950)
Nobody has given a reason why a hat should be removed when you are in a restaurant. If someone is more comfortable with their hat on, then they should be allowed to eat in comfort, their hat does not affect anyone's meal.

I agree, good time to MYOB. I was in the military too but this is not the military. Though I do not wear a hat in a restaurant I don't see that it is any of mine or anyone's business..if someone for whatever reason chooses to do so unless there is a dress code. It's much better than sitting 4 tables away from a group talking so loud trying to talk over each other you can hear every word they say while acting like 3 year old children.

The Great Fumar 02-13-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 828957)
I agree, good time to MYOB. I was in the military too but this is not the military. Though I do not wear a hat in a restaurant I don't see that it is any of mine or anyone's business..if someone for whatever reason chooses to do so unless there is a dress code. It's much better than sitting 4 tables away from a group talking so loud trying to talk over each other you can hear every word they say while acting like 3 year old children.

And I would venture to say they were all wearing hats ,,,Again, its manners...if that doesn't register , how about culture ...

refined fumar.......:cool

KeepingItReal 02-13-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 828975)
And I would venture to say they were all wearing hats ,,,Again, its manners...if that doesn't register , how about culture ...

refined fumar.......:cool

Could be they were, but then some were women, I will definitely check next time. :D
Manners, culture, whatever, still not anyone's place to tell anyone they cannot wear a hat nor to label them if they do. As long as they are not bothering anyone
leav'em alone I would still say.

CFrance 02-13-2014 11:40 PM

Of course you can label them--as bad mannered. Doesn't mean you have to go tell them. That's bad manners too.

There IS a standard, even today.

2BNTV 02-14-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 828895)
Ok 2B but do you think those germs are gonna jump out of the hat and get you???

Maybe, and then I may take after Howard Hughes. :jester:

Seriously, I just think it's the right thing to do when in a restaurant, but it doesn't really bother me. :smiley:

Bonanza 02-14-2014 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 828842)
Religious head coverings are due to respect and are clean. A dirty, stinky baseball cap?

"A dirty, stinky baseball cap?" Yes! Not to mention that it is fashionable to wear it backwards.

What is wrong with these wives/partners, etc., who don't say anything and think it okay or fashionable.

jblum315 02-14-2014 04:05 AM

The slobs have beaten them into submission, emotionally

Meddick 02-14-2014 06:36 AM

I was raised to not were a hat indoors. However, having said that, this is me and I really do not think much about what others are doing with respect to hat wearing. As long as the folks are not rowdy, they are free to live and let live, as far as I am concerned.

But then again, I am not a hat wearer.

memason 02-14-2014 06:56 AM

Well, sorry folks, but Joe says it's ok to "Leave Your Hat On" ....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b04jq7NB1s]Joe Cocker - You Can Leave Your Hat On - YouTube[/ame]

gomoho 02-14-2014 07:25 AM

Quite frankly - I don't give a damn!

quirky3 02-14-2014 07:55 AM

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Fumar! So happy to hear from you!

Would this be OK in restaurants then? :laugh:

p.s. Just kidding, everyone, just kidding! Fumar LOVES dogs so much!!

elizabeth52 02-14-2014 08:45 AM

This is from the Emily Post Institute:

Men – Hats can be left on…
Outdoors
At athletic events (indoors or out)
On public transportation
In public buildings such as post offices, airports,* and hotel or office lobbies
On elevators

Men – Take hats off, including baseball caps …
In someone's home
At mealtimes, at the table
While being introduced, indoors or out (unless it's frigid!)
In a house of worship, unless a hat or head covering is required
Indoors at work, especially in an office (unless required for the job)
In public buildings such as a school, library, courthouse, or town hall
In restaurants and coffee shops
At a movie or any indoor performance
When the national anthem is played
When the flag of the United States passes by, as in a parade

Women – Fashion hats (not baseball-style caps) can be left on…
In someone's home
At luncheons, weddings, garden parties
At religious services
At a movie or any indoor performance
When the national anthem is played
When the flag of the United States passes by, as in a parade

Women — Take your fashion hat off…
Anytime it blocks someone's view, such as at a wedding or in a theater
Indoors at work
Women — Remove baseball-style (unisex) caps…
In someone's home
At mealtimes, at the table
While being introduced
In a house of worship, unless a hat or head covering is required
Indoors at work, unless required for the job
In public buildings such as a school, library, courthouse, or town hall
In restaurants and coffee shops
At a movie or any indoor performance
When the national anthem is played
When the flag of the United States passes by, as in a parade
*

*

(Cancer patients are exempt from hat rules. They may keep their hats or caps on at all times if they wish.)
*

BobnBev 02-14-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 828943)
Sweaty hats, maybe.

See how misspelling a word can change the whole meaning
of a post?

And they said spelling doesn't matter.:rolleyes:


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