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Madelaine Amee 02-19-2014 10:37 AM

Home Invasion/Robbery - suggestion
 
With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

JB in TV 02-19-2014 10:39 AM

Great ideas!

TheVillageChicken 02-19-2014 10:43 AM

I have .357 on speed dial.

mixsonci 02-19-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 831879)
With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

Love these ideas, thank you

Madelaine Amee 02-19-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mixsonci (Post 831913)
Love these ideas, thank you

I'd like to "claim" them of my own, but I can't - they came in one of those emails and these stayed in my memory, much else does not!

Sable99 02-19-2014 01:09 PM

My Mom heard about using the panic button on your key fob and mentioned it to an elderly friend that lived alone. Luckily, the friend was listening! A few days later her doorbell rang at midnight and she hit the panic button which was on her nightstand! She saw a someone dressed in black running from her house!

This didn't happen in TV but in our town of about 25,000 people!

keithwand 02-19-2014 03:27 PM

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?

Midvale 02-19-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?
Golf club.

graciegirl 02-19-2014 03:43 PM

Some of our villages are armed. We certainly have a lot in our village. I used to be shocked, this was entirely new to me, now I think.....hmmmmm.

MikeV 02-19-2014 04:47 PM

My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

Madelaine Amee 02-19-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keithwand (Post 832024)
What if the intruder is not a a WASP?

You raise an interesting point! If the intruder is not a Wasp, a Hornet or a Yellow Jacket there is a very good chance that you are in the middle of a home invasion, and for this you need to take a different tactic.

First ask the intruder if he minds being sprayed with a lethal blast of Bug Spray that will probably blind him for some time - you need to ask him first because you really do not want to p..s him off at this point in the invasion, then you proceed to spray the h..l out of whoever it may be before you beat him to death with your marble rolling pin. Hopefully it's not a friendly neighbor looking for help.

Does this answer your question?

Abster 02-19-2014 05:35 PM

Much like many other fellow Villagers, I don't need my car keys or wasp spray. We each have loaded .38s and know how to use them.

graciegirl 02-19-2014 05:37 PM

Does WASP spray work on us Catholics?

ugotme 02-19-2014 07:23 PM

On me they would have to use WOP spray !!!!

:a20:

tommy steam 02-19-2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 831879)
With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

Great idea about the car keys. :BigApplause:

tommy steam 02-19-2014 07:56 PM

I was just thinking. I understand some of the bad guys use remotes to try to open up the garage doors. I really don't know this to be true or not but I was thinking to just unplug the motor that runs the door when I go away for a extended period.

CFrance 02-19-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 832067)
My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

Let's hope you don't wake up in the middle of the night some day and shoot yourself in the ear.

NoMoSno 02-19-2014 08:49 PM

Many (most) home invaders bring their own firearm.
I'll save the wasp spray, for the wasps...

buggyone 02-19-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 832067)
My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com

NoMoSno 02-19-2014 09:02 PM

Happened just the other day:
Mom opens fire on home invaders in Detroit to defend children - WXYZ.com

missypie 02-19-2014 09:16 PM

Oh just come in our home and try to rob us......Surprise!!!!!

ditka41 02-19-2014 10:01 PM

A well-placed bullet (or more if required) would do wonders for adjusting the attitudes and ambitions of lots of the low-life criminals. Even our local paper with its "daily dose of only sunshine news" could not ignore that story!
Recent conversations I've had indicate about half of us are very prepared to help the creeps with that "attitude adjustment" if the opportunity presents itself in our homes. "Be Prepared" is still a good motto to remember. See you at the range!

MikeV 02-20-2014 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 832195)
Let's hope you don't wake up in the middle of the night some day and shoot yourself in the ear.

What the heck are you talking about?:22yikes:

MikeV 02-20-2014 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 832216)

Yeah right! What koolaid flavor do you like?

dillywho 02-20-2014 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy steam (Post 832189)
I was just thinking. I understand some of the bad guys use remotes to try to open up the garage doors. I really don't know this to be true or not but I was thinking to just unplug the motor that runs the door when I go away for a extended period.

No need to unplug. The control on the wall has a lock position and the door cannot be opened until you put it back on unlock. Just don't do what we did....accidentally locked it and couldn't get back in. Thank goodness our dog sitter was home and we were able to get her key to the front door since we were in my son's car and didn't have our keys.

Bonanza 02-20-2014 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 831879)

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

I saw that same suggestion regarding your car's remote on Facebook a while back. The problem with it is that most bedrooms are too far from your car and if your remote does work, chances are your car is in your garage and the sound to a neighbor would be muffled.

The problem with wasp spray is that your efforts could be sabotaged and the insecticide could be used against you. Chances are, the intruder is stronger than you and faster because you've been asleep and he's ready for anything.

Go to a marine supply store and buy an air horn. If you press that button, I can pretty well promise you that in an enclosed room, no one would be able to function with that noise. It's louder than a house alarm and neighbors will definitely hear it.

Hopefully, none of us will ever need any of this stuff!

happy employee 02-20-2014 09:09 AM

I call BS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 832216)

What absolute BS. Firearms can, and do, prevent many crimes. Our founding fathers considered it important enough to include the right in the Bill of Rights. I, and others, have handled and possessed firearms most of our lives without ever having one of those guns jump up and shoot someone "accidentally". I have raised 5 children in my home and each of them were taught at an early age to respect, and use, firearms.

The Liberal need to disarm the public will be the downfall of our nation.

as far as breaking into my house... bring it on!

keithwand 02-20-2014 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 832101)
Does WASP spray work on us Catholics?

Yes but then you have to ask for forgiveness.
Golf club probably is the best method for WASPs as was suggested.
WOP spray. Good one too!
:thumbup:

Lark7 02-20-2014 09:23 AM

A defining moment for my Glock 19.

buggyone 02-20-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 832299)
Yeah right! What koolaid flavor do you like?


My preference is grape.

DaleMN 02-20-2014 09:32 AM

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

vlm790 02-20-2014 09:34 AM

I too will protect myself and my property should someone be stupid enough to enter my house wanting to hurt or steal from me. I have worked long and hard for what I have and no one will take it from me unless I want to give it to them. My persuader doesn't even require me to aim.

NoMoSno 02-20-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 832390)
It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

I don't think anyone has this desire.
However things happen:

Suspected Burglar Shot in the Groin by Homeowner | WBBJTV West Tennessee's News Channel | Local News

buggyone 02-20-2014 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 832390)
It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

...also, this is a good possibility when trying to use a firearm against an intruder:

Homeowner shot with own gun during Kingsburg robbery : News

http://www.guns.com/2013/09/28/dalla...g-house-video/

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/orti...urglary/ndT4d/

eremite06 02-20-2014 10:19 AM

The point of all this is anything can happen in a stressful situation. But the intruder has no idea of what awaits him and many are prepared.

I've got bear spray that marks him head to toe in orange, a .38 round and now my car keys. Thanks for the tip.

Steve9930 02-20-2014 10:50 AM

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

MikeV 02-20-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 832443)
The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

TexaninVA 02-20-2014 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 832557)
:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

Amen.

twinklesweep 02-21-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 832216)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 832224)

Both these articles make valid points. Rather than responding emotionally, naming one view or the other as groundless and untrue, I am curious what would be the numbers of the first quoted article in relation to the numbers of the second one. That is, how many instances of firearm shootings and deaths for the various reasons cited in the first article (for example, accidental shootings, domestic violence, suicides, mass murders, and so forth) versus how many instances where a firearm successfully thwarted a burglar or robber. I'm not talking about law enforcement but rather ordinary citizens. I tried researching and was unsuccessful. Maybe someone who's more Internet-savvy could find this info, as it would be pretty revealing.

twinklesweep 02-21-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 832443)
The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 832557)
:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

I agree too--finally some common sense rather than non-thinking emotional reaction. However, unless I'm missing something, I fail to see any "condemnation" in the posting or, for that matter, throughout the thread.


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