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DDoug 07-29-2014 12:26 PM

OK lets be honest
 
I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.

buckscounty 07-29-2014 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915241)
I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.

Because ALL muslims believe everyone should be muslimand because they are fanatics.

blueash 07-29-2014 01:06 PM

If you look with eyes that only see one point of view, you can be certain of what you will see. What faith is professed by those who shot down Malaysia Air? What faith is professed by those who bomb UN schools and kill children playing soccer on a beach? What faith is professed by the people who slaughter the innocent in Central America? What is the faith of those practicing genocide in Rakhine Burma? The entire war in Kosovo where the "butcher of Belgrade" was praised by what church? This is not to minimize your question but rather to point out that what you are seeing reported on the US media, especially a certain broadcast network is highly selective. Who is a terrorist is highly subjective. If you attack me, you are a terrorist. If I attack you I am a freedom fighter. Who is a Hatfield and who a McCoy? It really is not as simple as you suggest. There is blood on everyone's hands.

nitakk 07-29-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 915269)
If you look with eyes that only see one point of view, you can be certain of what you will see. What faith is professed by those who shot down Malaysia Air? What faith is professed by those who bomb UN schools and kill children playing soccer on a beach? What faith is professed by the people who slaughter the innocent in Central America? What is the faith of those practicing genocide in Rakhine Burma? The entire war in Kosovo where the "butcher of Belgrade" was praised by what church? This is not to minimize your question but rather to point out that what you are seeing reported on the US media, especially a certain broadcast network is highly selective. Who is a terrorist is highly subjective. If you attack me, you are a terrorist. If I attack you I am a freedom fighter. Who is a Hatfield and who a McCoy? It really is not as simple as you suggest. There is blood on everyone's hands.

How refreshing to see an intelligent post!

LndLocked 07-29-2014 01:55 PM

Let's talk about the Crusades

Xavier 07-29-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915241)
I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.

Going through life with blinders on must be very confusing and difficult.

Xavier

RErmer 07-29-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 915269)
If you look with eyes that only see one point of view, you can be certain of what you will see. What faith is professed by those who shot down Malaysia Air? What faith is professed by those who bomb UN schools and kill children playing soccer on a beach? What faith is professed by the people who slaughter the innocent in Central America? What is the faith of those practicing genocide in Rakhine Burma? The entire war in Kosovo where the "butcher of Belgrade" was praised by what church? This is not to minimize your question but rather to point out that what you are seeing reported on the US media, especially a certain broadcast network is highly selective. Who is a terrorist is highly subjective. If you attack me, you are a terrorist. If I attack you I am a freedom fighter. Who is a Hatfield and who a McCoy? It really is not as simple as you suggest. There is blood on everyone's hands.

Great post and sentiments.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 03:05 PM

I am very afraid of Islamic terrorists.

DDoug 07-29-2014 03:19 PM

OK The Jewish faith has been around forever Christians faith around 2000 + years the Muslim faith 621 AD I think the date is right. The Jews have not killed the Christians if they didnt convert so why the Muslims want to kill everyone. Bottom line when you see one particular group in a bad way you tend to believe the entire group are like that. Now I'm talking about today not 1000 or 2000 years ago. The problem in the Middle East is coming here very soon more than what we have seen in the recent past. The United States put together the best long term working government and everyone else wants it and we(not political) are not defending it. That my friend is very sad. Think about it.

pbkmaine 07-29-2014 03:57 PM

Extremists of any faith are dangerous
 
One of my work colleagues is a moderate Muslim. His family in Afghanistan fled when the Taliban came in for just the reasons you mentioned. He has no problem with Christians and Jews. To him, and to moderate Muslims, we are all "People of the Book", by which he means we are connected through the Old Testament. He has the greatest respect for people of all faiths. In my experience, it is extremists who are dangerous, no matter what religion they profess. I have much more in common with my colleague than with Christians who tell me I will burn in hell unless I believe exactly what they do.

rubicon 07-29-2014 04:02 PM

Unfortunately we have a certain segment in our society who believe they are taking the high road, the intelligent road with their support of Hamas, et al. Of course not all Muslims are so radicalized that they would resort to beheadings. However, their religion leaves little tolerance for non-believers.

Comparing terrorists in other nations to Muslim terrorist does validate there equal brutality. However, it seems it is only the Muslim extremist that have America on their radar. And more to the point the OP specifically addressed Muslims. so in my view each of this situation needs to be address indvidually because the circumstances, causes, history are different and perhaps trying to make such comparisons is futile

Israel is being criticized for defending themselves even with all the pre-warnings they have extended to Hamas. Hamas wants all Jews dead and most Muslim radicals are killing Christians

Bonnevie 07-29-2014 04:04 PM

I think it can also be tied into the development of the geographic areas. Because of oil, etc. those countries have not evolved in the same way the western world has. They were ruled by other countries or influenced by western culture for years. I think the Muslim religion in those areas are similar to the Crusades the western civilization had and moved past. Our government propped up some really nasty people in the areas. So radical religious views go hand in hand with hatred of us.

Madelaine Amee 07-29-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915332)
OK The Jewish faith has been around forever Christians faith around 2000 + years the Muslim faith 621 AD I think the date is right. The Jews have not killed the Christians if they didnt convert so why the Muslims want to kill everyone. Bottom line when you see one particular group in a bad way you tend to believe the entire group are like that. Now I'm talking about today not 1000 or 2000 years ago. The problem in the Middle East is coming here very soon more than what we have seen in the recent past. The United States put together the best long term working government and everyone else wants it and we(not political) are not defending it. That my friend is very sad. Think about it.

I think you have a good handle on this problem. Someone sent me this a short while ago .............

"Happiness"

They're not happy in Gaza ..

They're not happy in Egypt ..

They're not happy in Libya ..

They're not happy in Morocco ...

They're not happy in Iran ..

They're not happy in Iraq ..

They're not happy in Yemen ...

They're not happy in Afghanistan ..

They're not happy in Pakistan ...

They're not happy in Syria ..

They're not happy in Lebanon ...


SO, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?



They're happy in Australia ..
They're happy in Canada ..
They're happy in England ..
They're happy in France ..
They're happy in Italy ..
They're happy in Germany ..
They're happy in Sweden ..
They're happy in the USA ..
They're happy in Norway ..
They're happy in Holland ..
They're happy in Denmark ..

Basically, they're happy in every country that is
NOT MUSLIM and unhappy in every country that is!

There was more to this, but the language got a bit out of hand and I think the Moderator would have had a problem with it. But you get the gist.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 04:10 PM

Our government is very afraid of Islamic terrorists too. Just think of all that back and forth with Russia that we found out after the Boston Marathon bombings. Islamic terrorists are extreme Muslims.

eweissenbach 07-29-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 915269)
If you look with eyes that only see one point of view, you can be certain of what you will see. What faith is professed by those who shot down Malaysia Air? What faith is professed by those who bomb UN schools and kill children playing soccer on a beach? What faith is professed by the people who slaughter the innocent in Central America? What is the faith of those practicing genocide in Rakhine Burma? The entire war in Kosovo where the "butcher of Belgrade" was praised by what church? This is not to minimize your question but rather to point out that what you are seeing reported on the US media, especially a certain broadcast network is highly selective. Who is a terrorist is highly subjective. If you attack me, you are a terrorist. If I attack you I am a freedom fighter. Who is a Hatfield and who a McCoy? It really is not as simple as you suggest. There is blood on everyone's hands.

What faith was Timothy McVeigh? What faith was Adolph Hitler? What faith was Joseph Stalin? What faith was Pol Pot? What faith was Idi Amin? What faith was Benito Mussollini? What faith was Jim Jones? Evil comes I all forms and faiths. RADICAL Muslims are dangerous, as are radical Christians, radical Buddhists, radical Jews, radical atheists, and on and on.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 915362)
What faith was Timothy McVeigh? What faith was Adolph Hitler? What faith was Joseph Stalin? What faith was Pol Pot? What faith was Idi Amin? What faith was Benito Mussollini? What faith was Jim Jones? Evil comes I all forms and faiths. RADICAL Muslims are dangerous, as are radical Christians, radical Buddhists, radical Jews, radical atheists, and on and on.

But Islamic terrorists are the most terrifying to me and to a lot of other people too. I don't look for radical Christians when I get on a plane.

bimmertl 07-29-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 915364)
But Islamic terrorists are the most terrifying to me and to a lot of other people too. I don't look for radical Christians when I get on a plane.

So you are saying you "look for" radical Muslims when you get on a plane? Exactly how do they look? That would help us all including the TSA.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 915367)
So you are saying you "look for" radical Muslims when you get on a plane? Exactly how do they look? That would help us all including the TSA.


What do you think?

eweissenbach 07-29-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 915364)
But Islamic terrorists are the most terrifying to me and to a lot of other people too. I don't look for radical Christians when I get on a plane.

That may be because they look like you. Timothy McVeigh and Jim Jones looked pretty Waspy.

llaran 07-29-2014 04:58 PM

Why did the Christians kill the Jews? what about what is going on in Africa? Many of the wars were religious.

keywest 07-29-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915332)
OK The Jewish faith has been around forever Christians faith around 2000 + years the Muslim faith 621 AD I think the date is right. The Jews have not killed the Christians if they didnt convert so why the Muslims want to kill everyone. Bottom line when you see one particular group in a bad way you tend to believe the entire group are like that. Now I'm talking about today not 1000 or 2000 years ago. The problem in the Middle East is coming here very soon more than what we have seen in the recent past. The United States put together the best long term working government and everyone else wants it and we(not political) are not defending it. That my friend is very sad. Think about it.

I agree DDoug....You are not the only one who thinks this.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 05:02 PM

The OP is talking about folks like Al Qaeda....now...at this time in the world. The crusades are over.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 915380)
That may be because they look like you. Timothy McVeigh and Jim Jones looked pretty Waspy.

Can't think of a plane recently blown up by a Christian.

jbdlfan 07-29-2014 05:20 PM

I'm not a fan of this publication but it is nice to have all the facts:10 worst examples of Christian or far-right terrorism - Salon.com

DDoug 07-29-2014 06:06 PM

One other thing Politically correct has kill a lot of people. You figure it out.

blueash 07-29-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 915393)
Can't think of a plane recently blown up by a Christian.

Really? On July 17 2014, 12 days ago a plane was blown up by a Christian.

graciegirl 07-29-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 915480)
Really? On July 17 2014, 12 days ago a plane was blown up by a Christian.

Do not recall any mention of religion being involved as a motive. Perhaps I have missed it. Could you clarify? Are you talking about the pro Russian separatists?

Do you defend Al Qaeda?

Bonanza 07-30-2014 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by buckscounty (Post 915245)
Because ALL muslims believe everyone should be muslimand because they are fanatics.

Your post is very disturbing and shameful.

To say that all of any religious or ethnic group is bad, fanatical, etc.,
is ridiculous, prejudicial, and simply not true.

bimmertl 07-30-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 915370)
What do you think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 915367)
So you are saying you "look for" radical Muslims when you get on a plane? Exactly how do they look? That would help us all including the TSA.

Answering the question with "What do you think" isn't an answer. So tell us how "radical Muslims" look as you no doubt, according to your post, know what they look like and they are apparently on airplanes, since the TSA let's them get on, and you look for them when you board. Clue us all in.

Can't think of a recent plane bombing done by Christians, but they sure blew up a lot of stuff and killed a lot of people in Northern Ireland.

graciegirl 07-30-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 915554)
Answering the question with "What do you think" isn't an answer. So tell us how "radical Muslims" look as you no doubt, according to your post, know what they look like and they are apparently on airplanes, since the TSA let's them get on, and you look for them when you board. Clue us all in.

Can't think of a recent plane bombing done by Christians, but they sure blew up a lot of stuff and killed a lot of people in Northern Ireland.

Do you defend extreme Islamic terrorists?

graciegirl 07-30-2014 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by llaran (Post 915385)
Why did the Christians kill the Jews? what about what is going on in Africa? Many of the wars were religious.

Are you afraid of extreme Islamic terrorists?

Tennisnut 07-30-2014 06:46 AM

I am afraid, very afraid of the 58 hate groups in Florida. They are white, black, Muslim, and "Christian" in a warped way. Hate knows no ethnic or religious boundaries. Radicalism isn't confined to any one group.

See http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

graciegirl 07-30-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tennisnut (Post 915570)
I am afraid, very afraid of the 58 hate groups in Florida. They are white, black, Muslim, and "Christian" in a warped way. Hate knows no ethnic or religious boundaries. Radicalism isn't confined to any one group.

See http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

Are you more afraid of them than extreme Islamic terrorist groups like Al Qaeda?

karostay 07-30-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915241)
I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.

Acctualy your post should have read

I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from people of religion. It Doesn't matter what faith you are since man has been on this earth I would guess 95% of all wars, terrorist attacks are over one form of religion or another

graciegirl 07-30-2014 07:06 AM

Or perhaps, are you afraid of people who will blow themselves up to kill large groups of people? IN TODAY'S WORLD. RIGHT NOW. Forget about history.

kittygilchrist 07-30-2014 07:10 AM

What if earth was created by a loving God who wanted to enjoy relationship with man? What if a fallen angel tempted man to have a relationship with him, rather than with God? What if that is the whole story of the earth: good and evil, love and hate, peace and war?

What if there is a final battle coming between God and the fallen angel over the earth acted out through human agents? And what if that battle centers on The holy land, and pits the offspring of Abraham, one conceived in rebellion, who is Ishmael, father of the Arabic nations, against the other son, conceived according to God's promise, who is Isaac, father of the Jewish nation, and by grafting into that root, believers in their Messiah?

Tennisnut 07-30-2014 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 915573)
Are you more afraid of them than extreme Islamic terrorist groups like Al Qaeda?

Yes, since the TSA can't stop them at the border. They are here already. In fact, I believe our law enforcement is more concerned with a homegrown terrorist than they are about some tribal person running around in Afghanistan. They are more easily concealed and have greater opportunity.

redwitch 07-30-2014 07:34 AM

I can't say I'm afraid of fanatics but I truly loathe them. Fanaticism is a true evil. Extremists have no boundaries, whether Islamics, Christians or of some other bent.

I can't say I blame many that hate America. While the American people are some of the most generous people that exist, the same cannot be said of our government. We've supported some truly evil regimes to protect American businesses and interests. Frequently at the expense of the people who lived there. Think of Vietnam, Nicaragua, Argentina, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, The Philippines and on and on. We haven't always been the good guys.

But, back to subject. Yes, there are Islamic extremists who want to destroy America. There are Nazis and skinheads in this country who see nothing wrong with maiming, torturing and killing those who are different or hold opposing views. There are religious fanatics in America who are more than willing to start modern-day Crusades. There are anti-abortion foes who think killing doctors and blowing up clinics with people inside is perfectly acceptable. So, I'm not afraid of Islamic extremists. I'm afraid of any group or person that is willing to harm others for their point of view. Evil is not limited to one group or one religion or one skin color.

Tennisnut 07-30-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 915591)
I can't say I'm afraid of fanatics but I truly loathe them. Fanaticism is a true evil. Extremists have no boundaries, whether Islamics, Christians or of some other bent.

I can't say I blame many that hate America. While the American people are some of the most generous people that exist, the same cannot be said of our government. We've supported some truly evil regimes to protect American businesses and interests. Frequently at the expense of the people who lived there. Think of Vietnam, Nicaragua, Argentina, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, The Philippines and on and on. We haven't always been the good guys.

But, back to subject. Yes, there are Islamic extremists who want to destroy America. There are Nazis and skinheads in this country who see nothing wrong with maiming, torturing and killing those who are different or hold opposing views. There are religious fanatics in America who are more than willing to start modern-day Crusades. There are anti-abortion foes who think killing doctors and blowing up clinics with people inside is perfectly acceptable. So, I'm not afraid of Islamic extremists. I'm afraid of any group or person that is willing to harm others for their point of view. Evil is not limited to one group or one religion or one skin color.

Concur!

tucson 07-30-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 915241)
I will probably get beat up for this and the post will surely be taken down,but why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.



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