School Kids Being Picked up in Silver Lake?
 

I have noticed since school started how many kids there are living in Silver Lake! At first I thought it was grandparents babysitting and the bus picking them up but this morning I counted 5 golf carts and 3 cars sitting at the Jeffery Gate entrance waiting for the school bus and 4 of these golf carts were being driven by either the young mothers or the fathers. Do these people live in Silver Lake with these kids and if so, how do they get away with it? I counted 9 kids waiting for the bus and some were in cars and vans...right at the Jeffrey gate entrance.

They might be staying with family until they find housing of their own. Kids can stay for thirty days per year. Neighbors might be looking the other way and not reporting the kids living there. It may be that the parents drop the kids off there on the way to work and don't live in TV at all. Only way to know for sure is to ask and hope for honest answers. Unless reported, nothing will be done.

I understood children are eligible to attend the charter school if one or both of their parents work directly for The Villages or a direct subcontractor, or if a parent works for a business located within The Village. I don't think it would necessarily mean they resided in The Villages. This is how the educational system was explained to us while on the preview.

We would be the legal guardians of our 2 grandsons if something were to happen to both parents. We asked about the educational system and also understood living in the family section of The Villages does not guarantee the children would attend the schools. Our preview was a year ago and this may have changed or I may have misunderstood.

Silver Lake is not a family section of TV.

Not familar with that address where the bus is stopping, But maybe bigger question would be why is school bus stopping in silver Lake addition if that address or corner signs are in village of silver lake? During my search for homes I found three villages that children are allowed and Silver Lake wasn't one of them. Maybe the 55 and over rules are being bent or not enforced in the Historic side?

Until those who live there complain, nothing will be done. Home owners are being allowed to rent to anyone they want, and are disregarding the rules.

I'm complaining !!!! This is not. What I signed up for, we moved here for no children, please stop. This, and go back to retired adults , and be done with!!!!

There are several children that live or have lived here that I personally know of. I've had them as students many times. I was poo-pooed when I said it before.

Here is where you complain. Asking to please stop, on TOTV, is like blowing smoke in the air.

Community Standards
Phone: 352-751-3912
Fax: 352-751-6707

Just curious, what is your definition of retired? If someone has a job, even part-time, will you let them live here? Pretty sure you would have a bunch of empty houses.....

Do you teach at the TV Charter Schools, or in the Lady Lake public schools?

I would figure some landlords are renting to young parents with kids.

Although "rules are rules", we didn't choose to buy here in order to have no kids around. That as a primary reason for choosing TV seems awfully isolated to me.

I'd also figure that maybe the kids are being dropped off at an adult home for before- and after-school supervision till the working parent starts/finishes work nearby.

I thought these kids were being dropped off by working parents but as I said, there are young mothers in their bathrobes sitting in golf carts, drinking coffee and waiting for the school bus at Jeffery gate. They clearly are living in Silver Lake somewhere. My neighbor told me tonight he rolled down his window one morning and asked 3 of these women where they were living. They all told him it was none of his business. Clearly they are flying under the radar.

I am not flying under the radar, but if someone rolled down their window and asked me where I lived I would tell them it's none of their business also.

Well maybe those who see the moms in bathrobes on the cart ought to call Community Watch who can follow them home.

I think this place has gotten so very large, all control and adherence to rules has been lost. Owners renting to young families you say? Who is to stop them? As someone else said, I did not buy here to live with school kids as my neighbor. There should be better reinforcement of the rules we all signed in agreement at closing. No one is talking Big Brother but come on.

The "Developer" does not care about the "prehistoric" section. I know of (3) people who live in the prehistoric / historic section that have kids living with them. One is an Autistic child but it's not the new section and only the new section (bonds to be paid by the purchaser) matters.....just look at how poor the lots are maintained in the prehistoric section also.

Actually I don't think resales or for rents can be stopped IMO. You go to zillow or realstate.com and it list local schools (which not village charter school) in the area and mentions nothing about being over 55 only. If so why wouldn't the information be noticable in the listings for resales?

Until someone has indisputable proof that there are residents in The Villages with kids under the age of 19, I am going to view these "eyewitness" reports as balderdash. With cranky old farts all too willing and eager to report "lawn ornaments", I find it unlikely that there are many families with children living here.

We have lots of posters on here who persist in claiming that there are villages, as a part of The Villages, that allow families. That is just not true. ALL of The Villages is age restricted.

As far as rentals go, I am sure that statistically residents under the age of 55 are being monitored because if The Villages residents 55+ drops below 80% of the total, The Villages will lose its federal designation as an age-restricted community. All sorts of bad things happen then. Not likely.

Until that threshold is reached, it is legal for 19-year old kids to buy even a new home here.

No way, those kids got to be from Stonecrest.

I didn't know, and I do not think that resales and/or rentals are outside the scope of the rules here. I thought these were covenants that ran with the land.

I certainly hope everyone will call the Community Standards and find out if it is true.


I have never checked it out, but have heard that there are 2 or 3 Villages in TV that do allow children and/or families. I have heard that from many sources. I would like to know if that is not true. I also heard someone say, either on here or on the online newspaper, that a 55+ community can vote if they want people living in it that are under 55. (without loosing any benefits of the 55+ communities) I seriously doubt that is true, but wish that it was. Has anyone heard that before? Hate to cause confusion, but would like to know if these 2 things are fact, or just fiction.

I have no idea, that's just what I was told, and why I am asking if anyone has heard if it is true. Not saying I believed it, but wanted to check.

There are three "villages" that are open to children. The only thing they have in common with The Villages are the golf cart paths. That is, their communities are golf cart accessible and they have access to our golf cart paths. They do not have access to any recreational facilities and they do not pay any amenity fees for TV. These villages were built for employees of the developer, its subsidiaries and contractors. However, they are open for purchase by anyone.

A friend of mine purchased a home in Buffalo Ridge (I believe that is the name of the development -- near Crispers) for her grandson and two great-grandchildren. The greats are not eligible for the Charter Schools unless the grandson gets a job within TV. They do have the in-county guest passes that allow them to use TV facilities so long as my friend accompanies them (the same as anyone who has qualified relatives living in the Tri-County Area).

As to the voting issue, have no clue -- first I have heard about it.

As to renters, a homeowner can rent to anyone so long as everyone living in the house is over 19. If you suspect someone under age is living in TV for more than 30 days, you can report them and TV will see that they move. They make no exceptions, regardless of circumstances.

All of what Red said is true.

At the least you would be informing them that others have noticed what Community Standards probably already knew...Surely they would be aware that a school bus is picking up children and shuttling those children to their charter school.

Please let us know how the conversation goes...


That is a really good question. There must be some financial benefit in meeting HUDs requirements for "Housing intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older"? LIHTC and LURA programs award tax credits that can be sold and the qualifications are 80% occupancy of over 55 along with the advertising of "over 55 community".

I suppose 20% of the residents could have children and they would still qualify?? But that would bring in the argument (possibly lawsuit) over why that resident can have children under the age of 19 living with them and another can only have them visit for 30 days...

The bus is stopping on Griffin Road, just outside the Jeffrey Gate, which is not in Silver Lake, but just outside of it.

Not Community Watchs' job.......................

Doesn't care? Re-purchase of 40 homes to be rebuilt by the Developer. Rebuilding of the golf course & country club.
Maintainence of lots is the homeowners's responsibility.

My understanding is that 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55.

I think that in addition to what you mentioned this condition must be met in order to circumvent age discrimination laws. I'm not sure, but I think that this is how they can have a rule against people under the age of 19 living here.

If you think about it only about 20% of the people living here have to be over 55. You could have one person over 55 and three people under 55 living in 80% of the homes. The rest of the homes could have four people under 55 living in them.

Aha! A clue that all this really is ....................................balderdash!

We would have a bunch of kids living here?

originally posted by crich;The "Developer" does not care about the "prehistoric" section. I know of (3) people who live in the prehistoric / historic section that have kids living with them. One is an Autistic child but it's not the new section and only the new section (bonds to be paid by the purchaser) matters.....just look at how poor the lots are maintained in the prehistoric section also.

originally posted by Bogie Shooter
Doesn't care? Re-purchase of 40 homes to be rebuilt by the Developer. Rebuilding of the golf course & country club.
Maintainence of lots is the homeowners's responsibility.
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If children are living there then report them. It is anonymous to do so. I wish we didn't have to do things like that but it is the rule and a deed restriction.

Why didn't anyone get this excited when the front page of The Daily Sun showed the foreign exchange students arriving who are staying with host families in the Villages?

I think it is for one month.

I got excited education is a wonderful thing. In my life time I have never spoke out nor have I vote against a tax increase that was for education.

We drove out the Jeffery gate this morning about 8:05 and saw 2 little kids, maybe 2nd grade age, sitting in a golf cart with their father. Dad was about 30-35 years old. So, if they don't live in Silver Lake and are just being picked up at that gate, where are they coming from in the golf cart?

Tomorrow when you see them ...give a smile to the DAD and just ask...in a kind nice way. Then post your answer here....for all to know ...bet it will be an honest answer without any recourse. Wish I could pull out of the gate tomorrow.

It could be that dad and kids go to grandparents' house every morning from their home outside of TV, get the golf cart, have kids wait for bus (which is probably not for any of the charter schools, but a Lake County school --The Villages Elementary School on Rolling Acres has good rep) and then dad goes to work.

The reality may be the parents are trying to circumvent their local school district and get theirs kids into what they feel is a better school by using the grandparents' address. Happens all over the country.

The only way you're going to know for sure is to follow dad home, be there when school gets out, talk to neighbors and find out if kids are actually living in TV. Then you can report them if it bothers you that much.

It is hard to hide kids here. I was once reported for having my grandson here for four days while my daughter went away for the weekend. Community Watch dropped by and asked how long he would be staying with me. My home was watched a lot for the next few months to make sure it was truly only a visit.