Oklahoma beheading
 

Sure to be tonights headline news.
I do not know what to say.

FBI to investigate Oklahoma beheading; armed man stopped attacker - Washington Times

I'm afraid this is only the beginning. Pray for our country and may God bless America.

Gomoho, I was just thinking the same exact thought. People need to get right with God, we are living in the last days as described in the Bible. I know I'll be mocked,criticized and persecuted for saying this, BUT it has to be said loud and clear.

It will be more than interesting to see how the various Media Outlets " position " this heinous act . I note that the FBI has already labeled it as " Workplace Violence ".
I believe this was the same label which they ascribed to the Islamist who committed the shootings at as I recall Ft. Hood while he was a member of our Military .
In my book it is another act of Islamist Terrorism and nothing less .

Pretty much agree with the two of you on this!!

Have they determined yet if he is part of a group?

How about the Chicago airport thing? Anyone (other than me)think there might be more to that story?

Will wait to see if the Black Panthers show up in Moore, OK to defend the butcher and incite people to riot, burn, and scream for the head of the company's former CEO-reserve deputy sheriff who stopped the butcher with a rifle, because the courageous rescuer "shot an innocent black man in cold blood".

And we'll see if the whole butchery and attacks are blamed on the employer for firing him while "expressing his freedom of religion" (as in trying to convert co-workers to Islam as the co-workers reported).

The "alleged" beheader was released from prison in April, instead of in 2017, having the convictions shown here, that included drug trafficking, escape from detention, and assault and battery of police officer:

Offender Lookup - Detail

Suspect in co-worker's beheading was recently released from probation
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...926-story.html

Hoping he was just crazy and not participating in Jihad.

I know, my gut says he's a lone lunatic, I hope I'm right.

edit to add I just heard he is Muslim and was recruiting. So much for my gut.

Here's what's reported on his Facebook page (having apparent Taliban fighters in his cover photo). His Facebook page is linked in the article and is still active….

Oklahoma Beheader Alton Nolen Celebrated Terrorists On Facebook | The Daily Caller

Where?
 

I am sure glad someone was on location with Second Amendment
beliefs and had his gun... now would this have been a good location
and incident to hand someone a cell phone to call 911 or take action
and attempt to eliminate the threat?

Any phone carrying people out there that think this would have worked
better than a trained second amendment on the scene?

Get my Point?

It will be termed something else, like "workplace violence" by Nidal Hasan at Ft. Hood.

On the NBC news tonight, they showed the workplace and Brian Williams said he beheaded one woman and stabbed another and then was "stopped" by another worker but not a peep that the had any connection to anything unusual.

Well, his Facebook page shows quite clearly an interest in beheadings by terrorists, in this picture containing this text:

"Thus do we find the clear precedent that explains the peculiar penchant of Islamic terrorists to behead their victims: it is merely another precedent bestowed by their <<Prophet>>:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

In the pictures there also two of Bin Laden, and his "Muslim sisters" dressed and armed like ISIS fighters, and many more to page thru with left and right arrows.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

Not from me. We have to be pretty close. Matthew 24 is here now.

I am afraid they are all over this country now. They have infiltrated. In my mind it's like they are just coming in over the walls like insects and no way to stop them. They are mixing in with our people. We have been so lax about who comes in and out of this country. We could really learn from the baby nation Israel right now. I went over there two years ago and it was unreal how hard it was for us to just visit from one end of Israel to another. They interrogated our whole group one by one by trained personnel asking personal questions and looking directly into our eyes to see if we were lying. It's like they were human lie detectors.

Nut with a machete, sword or whatever he used to behead his victim. There are going to be people influenced sickly by what they see in the news, in books, and in movies. This has happened throughout US history.

http://preventioninstitute.org/unity...FZJr7Aod_CkANA

Not to totally drive people to Islamophia but:
How the Muslim Brotherhood Is Winning in America | Clarion Project

This is exactly what ISIL has asked individual Muslims in the US to do. "Workplace violence" is bologna.

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His facebook page tells the tale! I read an article this weekend that some imams are telling Muslim doctors in America it is their duty to perform "medical jihad"! Very chilling as I personally have two Muslim doctors!

The responses on here are the scary part. More common sense and logic. Criminals often put their plans on Facebook. What is more logical that some man upset about something at his job filled with rage for some reason became violent or some vast conspiracy involving Imans?

Conspiracies do happen but they usually involve very small groups of people who trade benefits for one another. Why would someone who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over their medical career start following some kind of "medical jihad?"

I wonder why the connection wasn't mentioned and who directs what IS mentioned on National news???

Yes, I don't really see it happening that way. This OK man, not the best of character to begin with, was fired and lost it. His facebook tells the story of someone attracted to the violence of terrorism. But I don't think he was a terrorist. Perhaps, though, disenfranchised and rogue individuals make for plum recruits.

That's a good question:

Q: Why WOULD Nadal Hasan, M.D. and psychiatrist at Walter Reed--where presidents get their healthcare--"who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over his medical career, start following some kind of 'medical jihad'?"

A: Because he's a jihadi terrorist!

And "The responses here are the scary part." Oh really?? So now posters on here are being judged as equally dangerous as a jihadist beheader?? :ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:

We're in more trouble than we thought.
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NPR:
"When a group of key officials gathered in the spring of 2008 for their monthly meeting in a Bethesda, Md., office, one of the leading — and most perplexing — items on their agenda was: What should we do about Hasan?

Hasan had been a trouble spot on officials' radar since he started training at Walter Reed, six years earlier. Several officials confirm that supervisors had repeatedly given him poor evaluations and warned him that he was doing substandard work.

Both fellow students and faculty were deeply troubled by Hasan's behavior — which they variously called disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid. The officials say he antagonized some students and faculty by espousing what they perceived to be extremist Islamic views. His supervisors at Walter Reed had even reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul."…..

….One official involved in the conversations had reportedly told colleagues that he worried that if Hasan deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, he might leak secret military information to Islamic extremists. Another official reportedly wondered aloud to colleagues whether Hasan might be capable of committing fratricide, like the Muslim U.S. Army sergeant who, in 2003, killed two fellow soldiers and injured 14 others by setting off grenades at a base in Kuwait…..

…..Second, some of Hasan's supervisors and instructors had told colleagues that they repeatedly bent over backward to support and encourage him, because they didn't have clear evidence that he was unstable, and they worried they might be "discriminating" against Hasan because of his seemingly extremist Islamic beliefs..."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=120313570

Whoa, I hope someone is keeping an eye on Dr. Oz.

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Fire at Suburban Chicago FAA Facility
 

The contract employee who started a fire in the basement of the FAA facility in Aurora, IL (suburb of Chicago) left a note for his family. Apparently he was attempting to commit suicide according to the contents of the note. He was supposedly upset because he was going to be transferred to Hawaii. According to one of his Naperville, IL neighbors interviewed on a Chicago TV station Friday night, he seemed totally normal.

According to a Chicago TV station I watched last night, he faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.

Good post. I wish I had tried a funny approach.

Good. A common sense and logical post.

One person is also putting words into my posts I never said about these posters as being as dangerous as the news covered criminals. I never said anything remotely like that.

They probably do. But, this man just looks like someone who went off on fellow employees and was using the excuse of the season to do so. If free Cuba had been in season, he would have used that.

2 Thessalonians 10 ►

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

He may not have been part of an organized group directing him to kill non believers, but he didn't shoot this woman, he beheaded her. He was responding to something unusual. The Law enforcement there say that Moore, OK is not used to murders, they may have one a year and they have never had any one beheaded. He had tried to convert his co-workers to Islam. He was fired. He was mad. He considered himself to be righteously mad.
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Oklahoma Beheader Linked to Al Qaeda Leader Awlaki, Boston Bomber’s Mosque
 

A little more info comes out

Oklahoma Beheader Linked to Al Qaeda Leader Awlaki, Boston Bomber's Mosque - Houston Daily Digest

Personally, I think Tal is right. If the issues of today were around some other cause and murders had been in the name of that cause, he would have killed in that manner. He just happened to latch on to a cause that scares the heck out of most sane people.

I think that your philosophy of religious tolerance is good and fair and kind. But this issue is another animal entirely.

I believe that many gentle and fair people will be forced to look at this issue in a different light. I am sad for that.

We all need to be aware of our surroundings and especially if we see something unusual. It is not politically correct, according to some to profile, but in this issue, we have to think differently.

Though this butcher may not have been fully linked to the terrorist network, his facebook pictures by the dozens clearly show he aspired to be one of them.

So with this, he not only passed the gang initiation test but wins the prize for being the first to behead a defenseless American in the style of ISIS, on our own soil no less. He's a total hero to them now.

Maybe it's now time to state the obvious .... Islam is NOT compatible with American values. Yes, there are plenty of peaceful Muslims etc but there are too many who ideologically, and silently, side with the enemy. The guy in Oklahoma was probably a wacko case, but it still illustrates the point.

For starters, we should begin to find legal ways to impede or eliminate Muslims immigrating into the US. Otherwise, we are creating an even bigger, and more dangerous, threat to our kids and grandkids.

Well "finding legal ways to impede or illuminate Muslims immigrating into the US" is not going to happen, given our Constitution and laws.

But if they wanted to, the Justice Department could have started on September 12, 2001, to find and deport ALL who have stayed here beyond their expired visas, and all who've entered the U.S. illegally and embedded themselves a long time ago in anonymity within society.

If they wanted to.

List of American Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oz has to go! Along with Ali and Tyson. http://www.doctoroz.com/

For the last twenty years before we moved here full time we lived with a large and beautiful mosque in our neighborhood and many people took it upon themselves to go there and ask questions. Many Muslims lived among us.

There are those who practice their faith and those who don't. Usually practicing Muslims males have beards and women covered their hair and arms and legs.

Some Jews I know are descendants of those who kept Kosher. Same with Christians and their lifestyles. What we call ourselves is frequently misleading.