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TVMayor 11-25-2014 08:06 AM

Ferguson grand jury decision
 
How did hundreds of rioters come to the conclusion that justice was not the conclusion of the grand jury after the grand jury had considered all the evidence?

When the grand jury's decision was announced how did the rioters in the street, the ones with no TVs, the ones that had seen and heard ZERO evidence, how did 100% of them with that lack of information come to the conclusion they should burn, rob and loot?

Could the answer me as EZ as black and white?

Walter123 11-25-2014 08:15 AM

This thread won't last long before it gets shut down.

That being said, the Ferguson people acted as expected. I'll bet 50% of the residents wanted this decision so they could riot and have an early black Friday. Lets see have much Al Sharpton stirs the pot.

Last night one of the news people said "obviously, the smell of marijuana is in the air"

ugotme 11-25-2014 08:16 AM

Because some - not all - of these people are there to create havoc.
I would venture that a lot do not know the "victim" and could care less about him. All they want is to riot and steal.

Some honestly believe there has been an injustice.

I certainly do not have the facts and can not make an intelligent decision from where I sit. However, the Grand Jury has made it's decision and we (they) must live by it.

mflasch 11-25-2014 08:19 AM

The actions of the ignorant should not come as a surprise to anyone. Where is Sharpton and Jackson. Check that, if they were there, the situation would only escalate. Everyone should be able to protest PEACEFULLY, but it seems that the black community doesn't know how to do it. The irony really was last night when the President was calling for peace and basically blaming law enforcement for the problems, his supporters were breaking windows and starting fires. Now, the National Guard is in place. There needs to be a mandatory curfew put in place and the order that looters will be shot. Unfortunately, it seems that this is all that the "community" understands.

kcrazorbackfan 11-25-2014 08:27 AM

This goes to show America of the mentality of these lowly s**tmaggot thugs and what was done "in the memory of Michael Brown". What was accomplished with what was looted/burned/destroyed/vandalized? The mommies and daddies (yea, right) did an excellent job in raising their sweet little babies. Violence doesn't solve anything. Out of the 61 arrested last night, the youngest was 17 and the oldest was 66.

Things will be so different tonight with the Police/NG presence.

BobnBev 11-25-2014 08:28 AM

Looters are looters, no matter what color they might be. I say shoot em all, and put it on Utube.

TNLAKEPANDA 11-25-2014 08:41 AM

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Bogie Shooter 11-25-2014 08:51 AM

Such a brilliant idea to announce the grand juries findings at 8:30 at night.

manaboutown 11-25-2014 08:53 AM

Some folks do not want to be confused by factual evidence. They have already made up their minds. Once again I blame the mainstream media and their untruthful propaganda for agitating the rioters who were well prepared to tear up the town as they did. Some rioters appeared to be celebrating an excuse to commit arson and loot.

kcrazorbackfan 11-25-2014 08:56 AM

We have been monitoring the situation since last night on two laptops since my wife agency may be called into there after two weeks of this; a few moments ago, a person that has been one of the most outspoken against the police was just on a local channel decrying that the police should have made more of a presence last night. Seriously? Now, get ready for it, he asked the more fortunate citizens to go onto the "I love Ferguson" websites and donate money to help rebuild. Just another of the underprivileged welfare receiving local trash needing a handout instead of really solving the problem.

Edjkoz 11-25-2014 09:10 AM

The rioters are idiots and the media are idiots because they fan the fires

plrbr1120 11-25-2014 09:16 AM

You know....if the young man would have paid for the cigars instead of stealing them, we would have never heard of Ferguson, Mo.

JRichm369 11-25-2014 09:16 AM

There is an axiom in the media that more people will listen to an argument than to an intelligent discussion, that being said the media presence in Ferguson, MO assured me that here would be violent demonstrations. Whether they were in celebration of an indictment or in protest of no charges there would be something for the media.

While I do not always agree with the police, I would not want to live in a world with out them

TexaninVA 11-25-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 972679)
How did hundreds of rioters come to the conclusion that justice was not the conclusion of the grand jury after the grand jury had considered all the evidence?

When the grand jury's decision was announced how did the rioters in the street, the ones with no TVs, the ones that had seen and heard ZERO evidence, how did 100% of them with that lack of information come to the conclusion they should burn, rob and loot?

Could the answer me as EZ as black and white?

First of all, the rioters did not come to a conclusion because by saying that, you give them credit for the ability to think rationally. They are a mob, and reacting emotionally.

Second, the police were too lenient IMHO in that numerous buildings were burned down ...ie they failed to protect.

I also think that if a investigative agency could get past the PC, they would find the riots were organized by someone or a group of like minded lefties. Most likely the usual suspects including the America-haters who basically want to burn the system down and start over.

Someone who lost property in the riots should sue the Rev Al while they're at it ... for incitement.

elizabeth52 11-25-2014 09:20 AM

I was watching last night as the decision was read and the detail that was given regarding the event. Yet, one news person reported that she believed that the grand jury got it wrong due to the "preponderance of of evidence" showing that excessive force was used against Michael Brown. I thought it was extremely irresponsible of her to present media reports and opinions as evidence and fact. The grand jury's decision was based on facts, not emotion and pressure from the public or political leaders.

Hancle704 11-25-2014 09:26 AM

Be interesting to find out how many arrested last night were actually from the Ferguson area.

Indydealmaker 11-25-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hancle704 (Post 972733)
Be interesting to find out how many arrested last night were actually from the Ferguson area.

:agree:

Unfortunately, violence was inevitable regardless of the verdict.

CFrance 11-25-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mflasch (Post 972688)
The actions of the ignorant should not come as a surprise to anyone. Where is Sharpton and Jackson. Check that, if they were there, the situation would only escalate. Everyone should be able to protest PEACEFULLY, but it seems that the black community doesn't know how to do it. The irony really was last night when the President was calling for peace and basically blaming law enforcement for the problems, his supporters were breaking windows and starting fires. Now, the National Guard is in place. There needs to be a mandatory curfew put in place and the order that looters will be shot. Unfortunately, it seems that this is all that the "community" understands.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mflasch (Post 972688)
The actions of the ignorant should not come as a surprise to anyone. Where is Sharpton and Jackson. Check that, if they were there, the situation would only escalate. Everyone should be able to protest PEACEFULLY, but it seems that the black community doesn't know how to do it. The irony really was last night when the President was calling for peace and basically blaming law enforcement for the problems, his supporters were breaking windows and starting fires. Now, the National Guard is in place. There needs to be a mandatory curfew put in place and the order that looters will be shot. Unfortunately, it seems that this is all that the "community" understands.

The black community doesn't know how to protest peacefully? Another arrogant, blanket statement condemning a whole race for the actions of a few.

DeanFL 11-25-2014 09:41 AM

Here we go again, our poor country.

19 years from the OJ verdict, and the so-called issues are not improved one iota.

Those that feed the frenzy are criminals themselves. Political and movement leaders, and the general Media.

A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six times more murders, three times more rapes, 10 times more robberies and three times more assaults than did their white counterparts.

Similar statistics were released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the “Uniform Crime Reports.” They determined, “In the year 2008, black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58% for homicide and 67% for robbery.” By contrast, the only categories where white youths surpassed blacks were in liquor law violations and driving under the influence.


The black community might want to focus on parenting skills and the education of their youth. This is precisely why law enforcement must confront that community to such a degree. And precisely why Mike Brown lost his life - due to his actions and unwise decisions.

But - sure blame the law enforcement . They are not perfect of course, but must do the job we ask of them. MLK is rolling over, probably ashamed of the events.

pivo 11-25-2014 09:44 AM

France
If you have the best quarterback and linebacker on a team but they lose every game
the team stinks
I'm sure you get the point

Bonnevie 11-25-2014 09:44 AM

it's unfortunate on so many levels, but especially that the looting and rioting perpetuate a stereotype that causes the police to be wary of that population. it's a viscous cycle.

Bonny 11-25-2014 09:49 AM

Such a shame they had to announce the verdict at night. They may have gotten a better handle on everything had they waited until day time when they could actually see what was happening and maybe could have caught some of the lowlifes !!

TVMayor 11-25-2014 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 972696)
This goes to show America of the mentality of these lowly s**tmaggot thugs and what was done "in the memory of Michael Brown". What was accomplished with what was looted/burned/destroyed/vandalized? The mommies and daddies (yea, right) did an excellent job in raising their sweet little babies. Violence doesn't solve anything. Out of the 61 arrested last night, the youngest was 17 and the oldest was 66.

Things will be so different tonight with the Police/NG presence.

The reasoning total escapes me. 61 people that probably did not know Brown are in jail, headed for court with a public defender, facing fines, time, probation, loss of job, no weed and time to review the value of MLK JRs teaching of the benefits of riots (civil unrest).

The people that will show up tonight will have to bring supplies to last the night because they burn and looted the stores in the area last night.

I took pictures of the Detroit riot while the smoke was still rising with jeeps driving around with 50 caliber machine guns mounted on the back. The buildings were not just burned out, they caved in. To this day I do not understand.

The reason for doing it is apples and the solution is oranges.

pivo 11-25-2014 10:01 AM

martin luther king rolling in his grave,, remember his protest marches everyone of his marches did nothing but disrupt the schools, the cities they were in, costing the axpayers millions and more rapes and drugs it might have been a long time ago but the same as we have today

Hancle704 11-25-2014 10:18 AM

After the "war on poverty" and billions spent in that war and legislation to improve race relations in America what has changed? Not all rioters were black, few actually cared about the Grand Jury's verdict, fewer listened to the President and Clergy who asked for peaceful demonstrations, the looting and destruction of businesses trying to serve the community went unabated. So what can I conclude? There is an element within our country that have as a goal the destruction of our nation and they take any situation to fan the flames of their hateful objective.

Abby10 11-25-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 972711)
Such a brilliant idea to announce the grand juries findings at 8:30 at night.

That was my first thought too, Bogie. But then I heard on some news reports last night that they wanted to give the schoolchildren and working families the time to get home to avoid what they thought might be a further disaster if they were on the streets/roads when the verdict was announced. It probably also gave any businesses that are still operating in that area a chance to shut down and the workers to go home. From that perspective, I think it may have been a wise decision.

karostay 11-25-2014 10:23 AM

once they burn the city down and loot all the stores
problem solved no need for low income housing and food stamps

manaboutown 11-25-2014 10:35 AM

I was in the Maryland Army National Guard and called up, stationed in the 5th Regiment Armory in downtown Baltimore, during the riots in the late sixties. I saw a lot of what happened up close.

Frankly, the behavior of a certain segment of society has not changed. All the welfare, war on poverty, and so on ad nauseam, down the drain and nothing has changed. Bottom line: We taxpayers pick up the tab, again and again and again, endlessly, regardless of outcomes.

Buffalo Jim 11-25-2014 10:47 AM

FOX NEWS just reported that 59 of the 61 people arrested last night are residents of Ferguson .

CFrance 11-25-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pivo (Post 972748)
France
If you have the best quarterback and linebacker on a team but they lose every game
the team stinks
I'm sure you get the point

Actually, I don't. I refuse to condemn a whole group for the actions of a few.

Chi-Town 11-25-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pivo (Post 972757)
martin luther king rolling in his grave,, remember his protest marches everyone of his marches did nothing but disrupt the schools, the cities they were in, costing the axpayers millions and more rapes and drugs it might have been a long time ago but the same as we have today

Nice coherent rant.

Stdole 11-25-2014 11:08 AM

Eliminate the Fuel
 
Firefighters Words... Eliminate the fuel and the fire will go out!

So Large "V" Snow plows, snow throwers and wood grinders..."hit the streets" might sound bizarre but that will help eliminate the fuel.. This is definitely a criminal matter not demonstrations!

Otherwise watch the smoke from the sidelines and enjoy yourself.. if this is what you call entertainment...

CathyandJohn 11-25-2014 11:09 AM

We agree with you 100%. They wanted to riot and loot and it was not about Michael Brown or the outcome of the jury's decision. It was just what they wanted to do....without being caught and taken to jail!

Mikeod 11-25-2014 11:12 AM

I noted the wording of the story on Yahoo this morning. "Grand Jury fails to indict officer". (Emphasis mine.) How is that in any way a failure? The grand jury did its job.

And the comments that the outcome was predetermined because there were 9 whites and only 3 blacks on the jury, as if no white would vote for indictment and no black would vote for no indictment.

:sigh:

NotGolfer 11-25-2014 11:16 AM

This could be debated ad nauseum but my whole take on it was the media and how they kept a focus on it. We saw it twice here in Florida in the last 5 years. I can't speak to the race issue...having been brought up in the midwest, small town and pretty much white community. I don't have close friends who aren't the same as me. I think this race thing is truly complicated and there are two sides to how it has played out. I hope and pray that this can at least die down and be back to a new normal in that community. Justice was served by the Grand Jury!

Hancle704 11-25-2014 11:25 AM

Ferguson is the new Detroit.

TVMayor 11-25-2014 11:26 AM

The brothers cleared out a cellphone store 100% all in the name of sending a message to the cops.

village dreamer 11-25-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 972818)
The brothers cleared out a cellphone store 100% all in the name of sending a message to the cops.

and the tv stores,food stores and all other stores.............:cus::cus::cus:

Bogie Shooter 11-25-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abby10 (Post 972770)
That was my first thought too, Bogie. But then I heard on some news reports last night that they wanted to give the schoolchildren and working families the time to get home to avoid what they thought might be a further disaster if they were on the streets/roads when the verdict was announced. It probably also gave any businesses that are still operating in that area a chance to shut down and the workers to go home. From that perspective, I think it may have been a wise decision.

Sorry cannot agree. In the light of day, less bad things happen.

Bogie Shooter 11-25-2014 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 972796)
FOX NEWS just reported that 59 of the 61 people arrested last night are residents of Ferguson .

Fair and balanced..............................


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