466A to 301
 

I have lived here for the last three years and for the life of me I can't figure out why the connection from 466A to 301 in Wildwood can't get finished. There must be some crazy reason for having 466A closed so long.

Amen! We moved in last October just a work started. As I recall it was supposed to be completed in 1 year. Last I heard was December.....

Keeping Villager drivers out of WW.

You are just spoiled. You are too used to projects managed by The Villages being finished before they are even started. :1rotfl:

Some of the ladies at the Wildwood post office live in that area and said that the construction has stopped because of lawsuits from homeowners regarding property damage. Cars seem to be able to go down to a certain point now, but the area surrounding the intersection hasn't been touched in months. Since they live in that area they might be on to something. Perhaps someone at Wildwood City Hall has a more definitive answer.

In the meantime, take Powell to Huey Street and make a right, or take 44A into Wildwood. Both will take you to 301 or the shopping mall there. Very easy.

This is true.....If that short section of road was done by Villages crews it would be done in a month. Apparently they are using the same people that did 441/27 and took several years.

Their is a MAJOR difference in putting in underground infrastructure and building roads in basically virgin land, that was only ever used to grow hay .... and trying to deal with multiple property owners and finding that existing underground utilities are not where they are shown to be on the prints of previous construction.

Road construction crew NEVER know what they are actually going to find once they start digging and every found unknown is a delay.

The Super Dome was built in less time and that is in the heart of a major city!!!!

If dogs are allowed in cars that use that road I am not going to drive one it. :cus:

Ten Miles plus of Freeway could be built up North in half the time as this project!

I don't think so!

You took the words right out of my mouth.

HUH ????.

Uncle B. started construction on August 11 1971.
Finished in August 1975...Took 4 years to build The Superdome.

It Opened 7 months after Super Bowl 9 was scheduled to be played there.

Estimated to cost $ 46 Million...ACTUAL total cost came in at $ 165 Million.

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"Lawsuits from property owners" should not stop construction at this point in time. There must be other problems---such as contractor bankruptcy. Not a major problem as pointed out that there are alternative roads into Wildwood.

What if they are approved by the Feds as therapy dogs?

If you like to talk about delays, let's discuss the Big Dig - Al least 15 years and $18B over budget, and still not right.

There was a 3 month delay because of right of way zoning. The main problem was moving the gas lines. Should be done by March.

What year? :jester:

Beat me to the punch! :sad:

Sorry. You can have the next one. Right!

I just go up Huey. No big whoop.

There's a FL law that if a road applies for a permit and meets certain criteria, dogs can ride in cars on that road. You'll have to use the one next to it!

I thought that I read that law as requiring that if one or more dogs are in a car being driven on that road then a dog must be driving said car .

:1rotfl:And it has to be at least 18 or be driving with an adult dog.

This post has gone to the dogs!!! lol
On a serious note, what baffles me is if they weren't going to work on the road, why not remove the orange cones and let us drive on it until they get the problems straightened out. ARRRGG!

Wait... you're having a logic attack.

If it's taking this long to fix 466A into Wildwood, I can't imagine how long it will take to widen 466A from TV out to 441/27. I probably will not live to see it finished.

466A will be widened by TV for the area from Colony just past where TV of Fruitland Park ends. So that will go quick. The county will widen it from where TV ends to where the 45 mph ends. For the remainder out to 441, the funds have not even been approved yet. So that will take close to forever.

As for the part going from TV to 301, it is the same contractor who did the 441 project. So expect that to be done 2 weeks after hell freezes over.

I feel sorry for the business impact. I used to eat breakfast at the Coffee House a lot. But because of the challenge in getting there I go to Fruitland Park Cafe now. I just hope they don't screw them both up to the point I have to find a Villages option for breakfast.

Kind of what I was thinking. Although, maybe because TV is building all those houses and wants buyers to feel things run smoothly in that area, they might help things along...gifting is a wonderful thing.

Construction (in various waves) of the mixing bowl in No Virginia stretch from around 1964 until 2005 or 2006. provided work for 3 generations of highway engineers.

Maybe WW is trying to match that record...

Actually, the city council was busy trying to prevent TV from taking away their jobs by trying to change the city charter and create districts based on where each current member lives. No time left for silly road problems.

My guess is that it will be done when the five banks are done.

I may be wrong but as I recall the plan for widening 466A to 441 starts with construction as you indicated from Colony to just past the Micro Track Rd, then Lake County starts at the other end at 441 and comes toward the Villages but stops approx 1/2 mile short of the initial construction from Colony. That 1/2 mile in between has not been funded. Either way, this looks like a disaster.

It is not uncommon in Florida for the county to steer most road construction to one favored contractor.

That contractor starts work on one stretch, then moves on to another and then another. He goes through the funds and cannot afford to finish what he starts, so the county awards another contract so he can use the funds for previously awarded and unfinished work. And so on and so on.

It is a never ending cycle of ineptitude entirely endorsed by elected officials.

I don't understand all I know about this stuff, but isn't all that suppose to be taken care of in the planning before dirt is even broken?

Not sure where you live but in PA 10 miles of freeway takes a minimum of 4-5 years...if the weather is good and their isn't an annual budget fight. And then there is the resurfacing required 4 years after completion.

Route 80 is 300 miles long in PA. I guess construction can move more quickly when they want it to. I couldn't find out how long that took to build, but it's a remarkable accomplishment.

No system of percentage of completion draws, no retainage percentage until final approval of the contract, no deadline penalties????. If all that is true, here is great fodder for Lauren Ritchie and her "investigative column". It is almost criminal not to include and enforce these in construction contracts.:22yikes:

This road needs to be completed and take the heavy traffic off the bypass road. We have been here 2 1/2 years and it closed shortly after we moved in. This is extremely SLOW construction and The Villages should push for this to be completed!

How, exactly, does a road apply for a permit?

I can just picture a big slab of asphalt standing in line at City Hall.

Indeed. And how exactly does a dog drive?