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senior citizen 01-12-2015 06:47 AM

Could isis ever take over our schools in america?
 
Although we are both still finishing up this book "One Second After", before beginning "Day of Wrath"......we did just put it on our two kindles

Note: ONE SECOND AFTER was cited on the floor of Congress as the book everyone should read. Re: E.M.P. attack over the horizon.......electro magnetic pulse. It will fry everything. No more T.O.T.V. No life as we are used to. Scary book, to say the least.

His latest book was released this past August 2014. Author: William Forstchen DAY OF WRATH

Could ISIS ever take over our schools in America? Is it even conceivable? I wonder.

Review
''A thrilling - and terrifying - tale of what could be our next 9/11!'' --W. E. B. Griffin and William E. Butterworth IV

''Bill Forstchen is highly respected in the military history community because he is the only one working in the field who understands the operational aspects of war, as well as the tactical and the policy/strategic levels.'' --Dr. Dennis Showalter, former president of the Society for Military History, author of Tannenberg: Clash of Empires
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Product Description of book sold on amazon.com
This novella by New York Times bestselling author William R. Forstchen imagines a horrifying scenario where, in the course of one day, the terrorist group ISIS carries out massacres in schools and on highways across the United States. With a surprisingly small but well-organized and ruthless force, the nightmarish devastation brings America to a state of near-paralysis.

Author of ONE SECOND AFTER and PILLAR TO THE SKY, this heart-stopping novella brings home just how fragile our defenses and infrastructure really are. It is also a story of heroic efforts to save lives, while sounding a wake-up call to American citizens and their government.

Story: Bob Petersen arrives with his daughter at the Middle Grade school in Maine where he teaches, expecting another regular day but worried about what recent ominous news reports might portend. Suddenly his school -- along with many others across the United States -- is under attack. Gunmen burst in, slaughtering children and adults alike.

From the ISIS leader in Syria, to the murderous rampages throughout the U.S., Day of Wrath reveals with chilling effect how national panic and paralyzing terror at the spiraling violence can bring a mighty country to a near-standstill. Petersen's fight to save lives and stop the merciless gunmen provides edge-of-the-seat drama. Day of Wrath is a provocative work that should stimulate an intense national debate.
 
 

graciegirl 01-12-2015 06:50 AM

I think watching CNN is enough for me. I don't need a novel.

Sandtrap328 01-12-2015 08:08 AM

Any well armed and coordinated could put together such an attack. It would not have to be ISIS. It could be white militia operating from Montana, it could be Black Panthers, it could be American Indians from South Dakota. It is doubtful for coordinated attacks to happen.

A very good weapon against such attacks is for the NSA to listen in to phone conversations and to monitor social media networks. It is always good to know what subversive groups are planning before the plans are carried out.

MikeV 01-12-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 994150)
I think watching CNN is enough for me. I don't need a novel.

You watch CNN?

dbussone 01-12-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 994172)
You watch CNN?

Talk about works of fiction.

Chi-Town 01-12-2015 08:56 AM

There are about 100,000 public schools in the United States. And about 10,000 ISIS fighters. Do the math.

billethkid 01-12-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 994201)
There are about 100,000 public schools in the United States. And about 10,000 ISIS fighters. Do the math.

the usual taking a minority percentage incident and magnifying it for consumption to sound like a general imminent situation.

The making a banquet out of a ham sandwich syndrome!

graciegirl 01-12-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 994175)
Talk about works of fiction.

I have been watching it during this last series of events. Would you believe that even MSNBC this morning questioned why Obama wasn't in Paris?

Some of the anchors on CNN use vague language, but I thought they did a pretty good job getting it right during this last week.

People are always saying some of us don't try to keep an open mind and only watch Fox news, well I have been watching CNN.

tomwed 01-12-2015 02:04 PM

I don't think they could take over our schools.
I do think it is not that difficult to scare many Americans like what was done with the Beltway Shootings. I'm glad we are not use to living in a country where we have to look over our shoulder all the time or always see soldiers in the streets.

Native New Yorker 01-12-2015 02:16 PM

You probably believe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 994175)
Talk about works of fiction.

balanced.

dbussone 01-12-2015 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 994252)
I have been watching it during this last series of events. Would you believe that even MSNBC this morning questioned why Obama wasn't in Paris?



Some of the anchors on CNN use vague language, but I thought they did a pretty good job getting it right during this last week.



People are always saying some of us don't try to keep an open mind and only watch Fox news, well I have been watching CNN.


I haven't watched CNN since Hanoi Jane married Ted Turner. MSNBC occasionally, even Al Jzeera (?sp). But not CNN.

llaran 01-12-2015 02:20 PM

Well Texas has taken over over our schools; because texas has so many students the text book publishers print what is approved by the Texas school districts.

Chi-Town 01-12-2015 03:01 PM

I think Base Commander Jack D. Ripper said it best:

http://youtu.be/iAHJCPoWCC8

JRichm369 01-12-2015 03:13 PM

There are about 100,000 public schools in the United States. And about 10,000 ISIS fighters. Do the math.

Also on 9/10/2001 no one believed that 9/11/could ever happen

tedquick 01-12-2015 05:38 PM

It is with much chagrin and sadness that the simple answer to Senior Citizens question, "Can ISIS ever take over our schools in America?" is, YES. Yes they can as they’ve already started.

I have pulled a paragraph from the website noted below the quote.

“In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.”

Did You Know There Are Muslim ‘No-Go’ Zones In The USA | Truth Uncensored

applesoffh 01-12-2015 05:44 PM

It doesn't take much to find something that will confirm what a person believes, whether it is true or not. Just like lots of news organizations (and I won't mention names) any fact or quote can be misued to "prove" a point.

dbussone 01-12-2015 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 994530)
It is with much chagrin and sadness that the simple answer to Senior Citizens question, "Can ISIS ever take over our schools in America?" is, YES. Yes they can as they’ve already started.

I have pulled a paragraph from the website noted below the quote.

“In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.”

Did You Know There Are Muslim ‘No-Go’ Zones In The USA | Truth Uncensored

Dearborn is the city I noted earlier where the city council voted in 2013 to approve the use of sharia law in certain cases.

tomwed 01-12-2015 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 994530)
It is with much chagrin and sadness that the simple answer to Senior Citizens question, "Can ISIS ever take over our schools in America?" is, YES. Yes they can as they’ve already started.

I have pulled a paragraph from the website noted below the quote.

“In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.”

Did You Know There Are Muslim ‘No-Go’ Zones In The USA | Truth Uncensored

Tell me about another city like Dearborn? Tell me about a thousand other cities like Dearborn and I will see your point more clearly? I think there are 35,000 cities so it should be easy for you.

Rags123 01-12-2015 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 994530)
It is with much chagrin and sadness that the simple answer to Senior Citizens question, "Can ISIS ever take over our schools in America?" is, YES. Yes they can as they’ve already started.

I have pulled a paragraph from the website noted below the quote.

“In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.”

Did You Know There Are Muslim ‘No-Go’ Zones In The USA | Truth Uncensored

PLEASE check your facts. This story was begun by a satire magazine and has been debunked over and over. SNOPES or your truth check of choice

kansasr 01-12-2015 06:24 PM

Facts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 994539)
PLEASE check your facts. This story was begun by a satire magazine and has been debunked over and over. SNOPES or your truth check of choice

Facts? We don't need no stinking' facts!

tomwed 01-12-2015 06:30 PM

Was the satire magazine The Onion? I don't really know any others in the US.

dbussone 01-12-2015 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 994548)
Was the satire magazine The Onion? I don't really know any others in the US.

Is Mad still produced?

tomwed 01-12-2015 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 994554)
Is Mad still produced?

I'm not sure. I watch and listen to a tech network named TWIT. One of the hosts is Dicky DeBartola. He talks about gadgets and was a writer for Mad Magazine. If you are interested I can help point you to his podcasts?

dbussone 01-12-2015 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 994555)
I'm not sure. I watch and listen to a tech network named TWIT. One of the hosts is Dicky DeBartola. He talks about gadgets and was a writer for Mad Magazine. If you are interested I can help point you to his podcasts?

Yes please

tomwed 01-12-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 994557)
Yes please

My pleasure.
click here

CFrance 01-12-2015 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 994246)
the usual taking a minority percentage incident and magnifying it for consumption to sound like a general imminent situation.

The making a banquet out of a ham sandwich syndrome!

I'm stealing that.

tedquick 01-12-2015 07:58 PM

While I hope that the naysayers are correct, I originally came across my prior site from what I considered to be a credible source. The idea that all of Dearborn is under Sharia Law has clearly been debunked and that was not in my statement nor was it ever my understanding. What I have not been able to disprove is that there seems to be a section that really *is* currently under Sharia Law.

Snopes.com only addresses the City Council and its vote while TruthorFiction (which I’ve always consider to be the more credible source) shows nothing at all. If someone can show me where my information is wrong, I will gladly admit my error. I would rather be embarrassed and publically admit it than have Sharia Law taking root in America. But that’s the way Sharia Law spreads. A little here and a little there and pretty soon it’s too big to stop. Just look at how it has been spreading around the world. We are terribly naïve if we think it can’t happen here.

dbussone 01-12-2015 08:21 PM

Thanks for correcting my comment about Dearborn and sharia law.

Barefoot 01-13-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 994246)
The usual taking a minority percentage incident and magnifying it for consumption to sound like a general imminent situation.
The making a banquet out of a ham sandwich syndrome!

BTK sums it up in only two sentences. :bowdown:

sunnyatlast 01-13-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llaran (Post 994407)
Well Texas has taken over over our schools; because texas has so many students the text book publishers print what is approved by the Texas school districts.

Be glad there are still textbooks in print that students are allowed to bring home where parents can see their contents.

When students are all provided an iPad to access only e-texts stored and locked in "the cloud" with log-in access only by school officials, and when all test questions and essay answers are typed by the student into remote file storage in the cloud, parents will not see what kind of ideology is being fed to unsuspecting children being tested on it in remote computer file storage.

It's the perfect indoctrination tool. And it's already in use with all the federally mandated curriculum and testing forced onto all public schools. These articles are just two of many examples:

http://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/2...to-go-digital/

"Schools across the country are contemplating a technology overhaul to meet new, tougher education standards adopted by 45 states and the District of Columbia, known as Common Core. Those standards take effect in the fall of 2014.

And Florida schools face a second deadline: By the fall of 2015, half of classroom instruction must use digital materials…."


http://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/tag/technology/

ejp52 01-13-2015 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 994149)
Although we are both still finishing up this book "One Second After", before beginning "Day of Wrath"......we did just put it on our two kindles

Note: ONE SECOND AFTER was cited on the floor of Congress as the book everyone should read. Re: E.M.P. attack over the horizon.......electro magnetic pulse. It will fry everything. No more T.O.T.V. No life as we are used to. Scary book, to say the least.

His latest book was released this past August 2014. Author: William Forstchen DAY OF WRATH

Could ISIS ever take over our schools in America? Is it even conceivable? I wonder.

Review
''A thrilling - and terrifying - tale of what could be our next 9/11!'' --W. E. B. Griffin and William E. Butterworth IV

''Bill Forstchen is highly respected in the military history community because he is the only one working in the field who understands the operational aspects of war, as well as the tactical and the policy/strategic levels.'' --Dr. Dennis Showalter, former president of the Society for Military History, author of Tannenberg: Clash of Empires
,
Product Description of book sold on amazon.com
This novella by New York Times bestselling author William R. Forstchen imagines a horrifying scenario where, in the course of one day, the terrorist group ISIS carries out massacres in schools and on highways across the United States. With a surprisingly small but well-organized and ruthless force, the nightmarish devastation brings America to a state of near-paralysis.

Author of ONE SECOND AFTER and PILLAR TO THE SKY, this heart-stopping novella brings home just how fragile our defenses and infrastructure really are. It is also a story of heroic efforts to save lives, while sounding a wake-up call to American citizens and their government.

Story: Bob Petersen arrives with his daughter at the Middle Grade school in Maine where he teaches, expecting another regular day but worried about what recent ominous news reports might portend. Suddenly his school -- along with many others across the United States -- is under attack. Gunmen burst in, slaughtering children and adults alike.

From the ISIS leader in Syria, to the murderous rampages throughout the U.S., Day of Wrath reveals with chilling effect how national panic and paralyzing terror at the spiraling violence can bring a mighty country to a near-standstill. Petersen's fight to save lives and stop the merciless gunmen provides edge-of-the-seat drama. Day of Wrath is a provocative work that should stimulate an intense national debate.
 
 

Read both,very good reads and sadly a possibility in today's world!

villagerjack 01-14-2015 01:30 AM

Take over schools? Ever hear of RLUIPA? Thank you Bill and Hillary. Google East Ramapo School District. NY.or PRESERVE RAMAPO NY

pivo 01-14-2015 10:00 AM

ted Quick--For anybody who wants to know when and how our schools and surroundings will be taken over
Google "demographics of muslims in america" type it in
and there is your answer

graciegirl 01-14-2015 10:46 AM

I ask that all reading this, on the next big news story about Islamic extremists watch each and all major news channels for five minutes each for an hour. Subtle, but interesting. Pure journalism is dead on television. Ratings rule. AND the person who said you can watch too much news is right. It begins as valid interest and ends up as brainwashing.

I was so upset a couple of days ago. Too much news watching...but one is no better than the next. Enough of picking out just one. Have you watched that ONE lately for a half an hour? Three times a day? You wouldn't think that one anchor worked for the same network as another anchor. Who needs all that editorializing???? I just want, AND will never have...just the facts.

Rags123 01-14-2015 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 995321)
I ask that all reading this, on the next big news story about Islamic extremists watch each and all major news channels for five minutes each for an hour. Subtle, but interesting. Pure journalism is dead on television. Ratings rule. AND the person who said you can watch too much news is right. It begins as valid interest and ends up as brainwashing.

I was so upset a couple of days ago. Too much news watching...but one is no better than the next. Enough of picking out just one. Have you watched that ONE lately for a half an hour? Three times a day? You wouldn't think that one anchor worked for the same network as another anchor. Who needs all that editorializing???? I just want, AND will never have...just the facts.

Could not have said this any better.

If you simply tune in one network for news then all you are doing is validating how you feel, and NOT learning anything new.

Also, insure that you supplement this tv watching with reading before you allow that opinion to become hard set in your mind. Nothing is simple any more, at least not as simple as the cable networks want to make it

After reading some posts recently, I might add that if you use google to either learn or validate or whatever, ALSO ADD AN INVESTIGATION OF THAT SOURCE YOU PICK. There are more biased, openly I might add, and "satire" things on the web....read trusted sites even if you do not agree with their spin. If you do not agree and read in detail then still disagree after fact checking, then you are forming an opinion. As I said, things are complicated...not easy to stay informed, BUT IT IS EASY TO BE LED

Sandtrap328 01-14-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 995324)
Could not have said this any better.

If you simply tune in one network for news then all you are doing is validating how you feel, and NOT learning anything new.

Also, insure that you supplement this tv watching with reading before you allow that opinion to become hard set in your mind. Nothing is simple any more, at least not as simple as the cable networks want to make it

After reading some posts recently, I might add that if you use google to either learn or validate or whatever, ALSO ADD AN INVESTIGATION OF THAT SOURCE YOU PICK. There are more biased, openly I might add, and "satire" things on the web....read trusted sites even if you do not agree with their spin. If you do not agree and read in detail then still disagree after fact checking, then you are forming an opinion. As I said, things are complicated...not easy to stay informed, BUT IT IS EASY TO BE LED

You are absolutely right. Excellent post.

tedquick 01-14-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pivo (Post 995302)
ted Quick--For anybody who wants to know when and how our schools and surroundings will be taken over
Google "demographics of muslims in america" type it in
and there is your answer

Thanks, pivo. :)

sunnyatlast 01-14-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 995344)
You are absolutely right. Excellent post.

What they said!!

sunnyatlast 01-14-2015 12:30 PM

I think a lot of the problem is that the alphabet networks and the cable news networks now have 24 hours to fill, with talk about "something--inane or substantive--who really cares? Just fill the schedule!".

I try to read/watch media from both sides, and I really enjoy reading/watching these two decidedly liberal, constitutional (and other areas) lawyers. They are not afraid of calling out either side when they act more and more tyrannical.

To me, the focus needs to be on the cancerous trend of growing tyranny instead of liberty.

The writings of these two (in archived columns) are good for news analysis that is objective.

JONATHAN TURLEY | Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks")

Alan M. Dershowitz

jbdlfan 01-14-2015 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 994835)
Be glad there are still textbooks in print that students are allowed to bring home where parents can see their contents.

When students are all provided an iPad to access only e-texts stored and locked in "the cloud" with log-in access only by school officials, and when all test questions and essay answers are typed by the student into remote file storage in the cloud, parents will not see what kind of ideology is being fed to unsuspecting children being tested on it in remote computer file storage.

It's the perfect indoctrination tool. And it's already in use with all the federally mandated curriculum and testing forced onto all public schools. These articles are just two of many examples:

How Orange County Schools Are Preparing To Go Digital | StateImpact Florida

"Schools across the country are contemplating a technology overhaul to meet new, tougher education standards adopted by 45 states and the District of Columbia, known as Common Core. Those standards take effect in the fall of 2014.

And Florida schools face a second deadline: By the fall of 2015, half of classroom instruction must use digital materials…."


Technology | StateImpact Florida

Ok, if you don't see what your kid is doing in school, that's YOUR fault, not the teacher, district or state. Whether you like it or not, digital textbooks and computerized testing is here to stay. I for one, as a teacher, absolutely love the digital textbooks. Students now get real video footage to go with print media that can be viewed outside of class time. I can now focus my energy with the students on synthesizing that information in my classroom. Much more efficient and effective for instruction. I teach a "flipped" classroom and found it the best way yet instruct the students of today. My kids Tweet and post Facebook and Instagram answers in my class.


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