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Jim 9922 01-29-2015 09:15 AM

A Dump In The Middle Of The Villages
 
Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

JourneyOfLife 01-29-2015 09:23 AM

Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?

dbussone 01-29-2015 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JourneyOfLife (Post 1003048)
Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?


Construction

janmcn 01-29-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JourneyOfLife (Post 1003048)
Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1003049)
Construction


Is anybody there checking to see what is being dumped at this dump?

Cedwards38 01-29-2015 10:58 AM

It's construction debris. Nothing to be alarmed about. It'll be gone when construction is complete.

joldnol 01-29-2015 11:47 AM

they are building two additional execs around the eastern side......Escambia and Okeechobee

Bogie Shooter 01-29-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1003044)
Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

JoMar 01-29-2015 12:33 PM

:agree:
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1003157)
I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

:agree:

kcrazorbackfan 01-29-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1003105)
It's construction debris. Nothing to be alarmed about. It'll be gone when construction is complete.

Gone as in "gone" or gone as in covered up?

rubicon 01-29-2015 01:40 PM

Dump NIMBY:police:

looneycat 01-29-2015 02:28 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :shrug:

skip0358 01-29-2015 02:43 PM

It's been there and will be there. No big deal it's only construction debris. Where pray tell would you like them to haul it. This is not new it's a renewal to continue use. It does not stink like garbage. Just looks like a mountain with landscaping on it. Gee

SouthOfTheBorder 01-29-2015 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1003044)
Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

Hey Jim

We have lived south of 466A for almost two years and just learned about this landfill operation a few months ago. Although it is about an 8-10 min cart ride away we haven't been exposed to any of the conditions you are concerned about. We do appreciate your heads-up.

Don

Almost forgot, I like your tag line, it fits your topic perfectly :thumbup:

JourneyOfLife 01-29-2015 03:35 PM

I think it is a very valid concern. Depending on how that land can, or might be used, in the future it could be a very big concern.

Are there any limits regarding the use of it as a dump now and in the future?

Is there any form a reclamation plan in place with an established timeline?

Dumps sometimes have a bad habit of being expanded both in size and scope over time!!! It happens more than you might expect.

CWGUY 01-29-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1003157)
I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

And if he does go..... I sure hope he talks about that "dusty dirt". :shrug:

sunnyatlast 01-29-2015 05:54 PM

I think the title of the thread is misleading and frightening to people who are looking at buying here or are newbies here. It also paints an unnecessarily grim picture for people who might be selling their homes that are truly "in the middle of TV".

For one thing, "dump" indicates residential or commercial/industrial waste, as in rotting and stinky and many, many trucks going in and out that would disturb the peace with noise, truck braking, hydraulic lift noises going up and down, etc.

If this is a construction debris landfill or above-ground construction debris disposal site, then CALL it that.

And be more accurate about where it is. Lake Sumter Landing is truly "in the middle of TV", and that is not the area in question.

Bogie Shooter 01-29-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1003296)
I think the title of the thread is misleading and frightening to people who are looking at buying here or are newbies here. It also paints an unnecessarily grim picture for people who might be selling their homes that are truly "in the middle of TV".

For one thing, "dump" indicates residential or commercial/industrial waste, as in rotting and stinky and many, many trucks going in and out that would disturb the peace with noise, truck braking, hydraulic lift noises going up and down, etc.

If this is a construction debris landfill or above-ground construction debris disposal site, then CALL it that.

And be more accurate about where it is. Lake Sumter Landing is truly "in the middle of TV", and that is not the area in question.

I wonder why the post was even made?

njbchbum 01-29-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1003421)
I wonder why the post was even made?

Jealousy?
Regrets?
Sour Grapes?
All of the above?
None of the above?

Mikeod 01-30-2015 09:42 AM

We got trouble, right here in TV. With a capital T and it rhymes with D and it stands for Dump.

joldnol 01-30-2015 02:38 PM

It will make for delightful elevation changes on the 4 executive golf courses that will ring it. I hearby dub thee Morse Mountain

Chi-Town 01-30-2015 05:15 PM

"Morse Mountain" may become another golf course one day.

http://www.golf.com/photos/waste-not-want-not#1

Cedwards38 01-30-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1003184)
Gone as in "gone" or gone as in covered up?

You'll never know! :-) Not sure really. Could be six feet under at a tee box.

VillagerNut 02-02-2015 01:45 PM

Dump (Transfer Station) in the Middle
 
:undecided: If you think it is only construction materials at the "Transfer Station" then you need to sit outside at McDonalds on 466A and watch the landscaping company trucks go up FULL and come back down empty. It is a BIG compost pile that has repeated problems with the rotten egg or sewage smell in the very hot summer days. If you ask the developer sales reps they tell you that it is a transfer station where they take all of our recycling to it and then transfer it to Orlando. Part of that information is correct but they leave the lawn clippings, etc. behind as a compost dump. So if you are golfing in that area during the summer and smell something like rotten eggs or sewage, now you know what you are smelling! Our winds generally go from east to west in the summer so houses west of that area have had a smell around them also. So it can be a problem for folks!

Bogie Shooter 02-02-2015 02:26 PM

Those sales reps are always lying........................

RickeyD 02-02-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1005282)
Those sales reps are always lying........................


My wife and I took the Village trolley for a ride last year. The "tour" guide had nothing but good things to say about The Villages of course. What I didn't like was his assertion that there is virtually NO crime here. What a lie that was.

graciegirl 02-02-2015 02:47 PM

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graciegirl 02-02-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1005303)
My wife and I took the Village trolley for a ride last year. The "tour" guide had nothing but good things to say about The Villages of course. What I didn't like was his assertion that there is virtually NO crime here. What a lie that was.



Please. Bogie was KIDDING.

There isn't much crime here.

Carla B 02-02-2015 05:45 PM

Are there buzzards flying around the dump?

villagetinker 02-02-2015 10:33 PM

OK, we need to get to the bottom of this:

Mr. Developer, what is the final state of the "dump", will the material remain there, will it be collected up to a point in time and then transferred to another off site location? If the material remains on site, are there any concerns about decomposition (wood, paper, etc.) or leaching into the environment (wallboard, metal, plastics, etc.)

So hopefully someone associated with the developer, will provide a suitable response to end the rumors and conjecture.

Just my thoughts.

Bogie Shooter 02-03-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1005558)
OK, we need to get to the bottom of this:

Mr. Developer, what is the final state of the "dump", will the material remain there, will it be collected up to a point in time and then transferred to another off site location? If the material remains on site, are there any concerns about decomposition (wood, paper, etc.) or leaching into the environment (wallboard, metal, plastics, etc.)

So hopefully someone associated with the developer, will provide a suitable response to end the rumors and conjecture.

Just my thoughts.

I guess you need to go to the public hearing...........................

MaxCat 03-11-2015 09:28 AM

it does smell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1003216)
It's been there and will be there. No big deal it's only construction debris. Where pray tell would you like them to haul it. This is not new it's a renewal to continue use. It does not stink like garbage. Just looks like a mountain with landscaping on it. Gee

Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.

graciegirl 03-11-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCat (Post 1026889)
Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.


Welcome to the forum, MaxCat. First post!

Walt. 03-11-2015 09:51 AM

When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

dbussone 03-11-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt. (Post 1026898)
When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

Will there be a Cher chalet?

TheVillageChicken 03-11-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt. (Post 1026898)
When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

In 1998, after Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono were both killed by skiing into trees, someone with administrative rights (I have no idea who it could have been) created an email account on a USAF Exchange server and sent out the following email to everyone on base.

From: The Trees
Subject: Stop the Logging

We will continue to kill one celebrity per week until the logging ceases.

The Trees

GPGuar 03-11-2015 11:50 AM

It does not smell... I have lived by Sarasota for the last two years and NEVER smelled anything coming from the dump! It's only construction debris how could it smell?::o

SouthOfTheBorder 03-11-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxCat (Post 1026889)
Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.

You are right, there is a smell occasionally but it not coming from the landscape landfill. It is coming from all the (wet damp) earth being moved/graded for the new executives courses. It is very noticeable when earth moving work around the ponds is active. For example there is no odor today. The occasional odor started with the construction a few months ago.

It makes no sense the developer would place a smelly garbage dump in the middle on The Villages.

Don

2BNTV 03-11-2015 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1005308)

There isn't much crime here.

:agree:

Show me an area where there is no crime and I show you a cemetary.

Someone asked me last if there was no crime in TV. I replied, "very little crime", is more accurate.

Back to the dump...... er, construction debris.

keithwand 03-11-2015 02:43 PM

Best looking landfill (construction material) around surrounded by golf courses and sorry but N0 smell.

wudda1955 03-11-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthOfTheBorder (Post 1026983)
You are right, there is a smell occasionally but it not coming from the landscape landfill. It is coming from all the (wet damp) earth being moved/graded for the new executives courses. It is very noticeable when earth moving work around the ponds is active. For example there is no odor today. The occasional odor started with the construction a few months ago.

This is it--exactly. It smells like sulfur, and not sewage. Still gross and unpleasant, but I know that as soon as they're finished moving the earth around over there, the smell will go away.


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