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kittygilchrist 03-07-2015 10:16 AM

Golfers, please stay out of the garden
 
This will be the second year I grow butterfly plants next to the golf course.
Last year I raised over 6 dozen monarchs, whiose species is slated to be on the endangered list.
Yesterday, four golfers were in my garden after a ball. The ball was retrieved from where it nearly touched the lanai by a man who did not see my plants.

Dearhearts, please consider that you are on someones private space where they have an intention that you may violate by trampling.

redwitch 03-07-2015 10:59 AM

Maybe a warning sign .... Golf ball seekers will be pelted onsite (pun intended)?

Sadly, I think this is one of those things where it is up to the character of the player. Some would never dream of going on your property. Others would never dream of not retrieving their ball. Maybe would be best to find another spot for your garden?

kittygilchrist 03-07-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1024722)
Maybe a warning sign .... Golf ball seekers will be pelted onsite (pun intended)?

Sadly, I think this is one of those things where it is up to the character of the player. Some would never dream of going on your property. Others would never dream of not retrieving their ball. Maybe would be best to find another spot for your garden?

Dee, I am not retreating. Asking for respect.

villagetinker 03-07-2015 11:10 AM

How about a sign, please do not retrieve balls from yard, if allowed.

dewilson58 03-07-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1024734)
How about a sign, please do not retrieve balls from yard, if allowed.

I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.

George Bieniaszek 03-07-2015 12:43 PM

How about a well aimed "Super Soaker" when they are bending down to look for their ball :)

"Whoops -- I'm sorry!! I was just watering my landscaping!!!"

cms36 03-07-2015 12:52 PM

I think I read in the latest Villages magazine that said never go into a back yard to retrieve a ball.

jnieman 03-07-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1024691)
This will be the second year I grow butterfly plants next to the golf course.
Last year I raised over 6 dozen monarchs, whiose species is slated to be on the endangered list.
Yesterday, four golfers were in my garden after a ball. The ball was retrieved from where it nearly touched the lanai by a man who did not see my plants.

Dearhearts, please consider that you are on someones private space where they have an intention that you may violate by trampling.

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cute little sign that gets the point across

ugotme 03-07-2015 01:11 PM

I do not live on a golf course but would never go into a garden for a ball.
As Dewilson stated if it is "right there" on the lawn and I can reach it to grab it fine,
but to go through your garden - never.

Some people don't think or care.
My favorite expression - "You can't fix stupid."

Polar Bear 03-07-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1024740)
I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.

That's my approach also.

wholman66 03-07-2015 02:33 PM

I live on a golf course, I don't mind someone reaching into my yard to retrieve a ball, I do however mind someone in my flower beds or searching between the houses.

Sanibel7 03-07-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wholman66 (Post 1024854)
I live on a golf course, I don't mind someone reaching into my yard to retrieve a ball, I do however mind someone in my flower beds or searching between the houses.

Look I also Live on a Golf course and Guess what.. The Rules are the Rules... Do not enter a residents yard..end of story.. If you are playing golf.. you are restricted to the course.. you have paid to be on the course.. Out of Bounds is exactly that.. Not on the course.. Keep Out. I have been gardening in the yard and been hit with a ball and guess what.. Not even a courtesy FORE was yelled. I am really sick and tired of those who think they can do what they want where ever.. I've even had a Resident. walk into my lanai off the golf course and change the channel on my Tv to get the Football scores that he wanted to see.. End of story Please respect all who live here.. do not enter anyone else's property Please

JoMar 03-07-2015 07:31 PM

Played Bonifay today with some visitors. The Ambassador that checked us in at Fort Walton made it clear that the yards are private property and that we are not to go into their yards to retrieve balls. My personal opinion, when it comes to respecting a persons property or a golf ball the respect for the property comes first. If the owner is on their Lanai or outside I will ask if I can retrieve it but if they say no....then it's no. Compare it to a stranger walking past your house and they see something on your property that interests them and they just walk up to look at it......would you think that's ok?

Mleeja 03-07-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanibel7 (Post 1024942)
Look I also Live on a Golf course and Guess what.. The Rules are the Rules... Do not enter a residents yard..end of story.. If you are playing golf.. you are restricted to the course.. you have paid to be on the course.. Out of Bounds is exactly that.. Not on the course.. Keep Out. I have been gardening in the yard and been hit with a ball and guess what.. Not even a courtesy FORE was yelled. I am really sick and tired of those who think they can do what they want where ever.. I've even had a Resident. walk into my lanai off the golf course and change the channel on my Tv to get the Football scores that he wanted to see.. End of story Please respect all who live here.. do not enter anyone else's property Please

I agree with what you are writing. However you chose to live on the golf
course. You have to expect this to happen. If a ball is in plain sight, I have no problem with the player retrieving the ball. Hunting for it in a garden is a different story. Entering your lanai...is trespassing and takes the discusdion to a whole new level. Someone who does something like this should have thier balls removed. If you catch my drift....

Pepperhead 03-07-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1024979)
I agree with what you are writing. However you chose to live on the golf
course. You have to expect this to happen. If a ball is in plain sight, I have no problem with the player retrieving the ball. Hunting for it in a garden is a different story. Entering your lanai...is trespassing and takes the discusdion to a whole new level. Someone who does something like this should have thier balls removed. If you catch my drift....



Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Sanibel7 03-07-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperhead (Post 1024980)
Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Well said, and its in the rule book and in the paper, DO NOT RETRIEVE GOLF BALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

tommy steam 03-07-2015 08:13 PM

Do all the Ambassadors on the different courses remind the players to keep out of residents yards? Maybe a reminder at the beginning of play would help.

fred53 03-07-2015 09:27 PM

You are not allowed to go on...
 
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1024740)
I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.

else's property to retrieve a poorly hit golf shot...and a mower flinging the ball is not only unlikely, but a poor excuse for trespassing.

The village rules(as the rules for this most everywhere)state that you are not allowed to get your ball from someones lawn/property...unfortunately there are many others who have no respect for others property so you see it all the time...a shame that some adults can not obey even the simple rules...

Jim 9922 03-07-2015 09:34 PM

We've lived on a course for several years and what happens never ceases to amaze. A few highlights: one afternoon a 3 foot hole of broken branches appeared in our 5 foot high azalea bushes, someone apparently fell in (but thank goodness, we were never sued for not having handrails); at least twice a year several feet of bedding flowers have been trampled or crushed by people falling over or rummaging thru trying to retrieve a ball (again no handrails); one day while sitting in the lanai a golfer came over and asked if we had a step ladder he could" quickly borrow" to retrieve a ball from the neighbor's gutter (it's true, no lie!); and the best is the guy driving his golf cart between the houses and into the front lawn looking for his ball: when confronted he stated his disability golf sticker allowed him to go anywhere. Our front yard is 75 yards from the fairway. I'd be pretty embarrassed if I missed the golf course by that much. I guess you can't fix stupid!
One thing we noticed, Winter golfers are much worse and disrespectful of property and property lines than the Summer golfers. In the winter we always have a few divots taken out of our back yard where people have played them where they lie, irrespective of where the out of bonds markers are.:throwtomatoes:

dbussone 03-07-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1025014)
We've lived on a course for several years and what happens never ceases to amaze. A few highlights: one afternoon a 3 foot hole of broken branches appeared in our 5 foot high azalea bushes, someone apparently fell in (but thank goodness, we were never sued for not having handrails); at least twice a year several feet of bedding flowers have been trampled or crushed by people falling over or rummaging thru trying to retrieve a ball (again no handrails); one day while sitting in the lanai a golfer came over and asked if we had a step ladder he could" quickly borrow" to retrieve a ball from the neighbor's gutter (it's true, no lie!); and the best is the guy driving his golf cart between the houses and into the front lawn looking for his ball: when confronted he stated his disability golf sticker allowed him to go anywhere. Our front yard is 75 yards from the fairway. I'd be pretty embarrassed if I missed the golf course by that much. I guess you can't fix stupid!
One thing we noticed, Winter golfers are much worse and disrespectful of property and property lines than the Summer golfers. In the winter we always have a few divots taken out of our back yard where people have played them where they lie, irrespective of where the out of bonds markers are.:throwtomatoes:

We lived on a TPC course prior to moving here to TV. From the leading edge of our property to the par 3 4th green was about 100 yards. Our backyard was enclosed by a fence about 48 inches high (HOA approved). I got such a kick out of watching golfers try to retrieve their ball from our yard, after they realized the gate was locked. What really was a hoot was the number of balls that landed up near our deck which was about 150 yards from the green. I'm not a particularly good golfer but I enjoy laughing at myself when I make a shot that bad.

Jayhawk 03-07-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperhead (Post 1024980)
Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Living according to this logic would make it seem that if someone's golf ball breaks a window, they should just just take a penalty drop and move on. Surely those who don't want golfers retrieving their balls from the yard would not want them to ignore a broken window by "staying out of the yard"?

"Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it." - Rodney King

Miles42 03-08-2015 12:17 AM

I do not go on someones private property to retrieve a golf ball. If I mi**** it on your ground it is yours and I am sorry.

Barefoot 03-08-2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1024724)
Dee, I am not retreating. Asking for respect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanibel7 (Post 1024988)
.... its in the rule book and in the paper, DO NOT RETRIEVE GOLF BALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

No-one should trespass on private property.
Please treat your neighbors with the respect they deserve!

Bay Kid 03-08-2015 06:43 AM

I have butterfly bushes in Virginia. I enjoy all kinds of butterflies, but none as beautiful as the monarchs. Thank you for sending some north!

john1953 03-08-2015 07:15 AM

For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

spring_chicken 03-08-2015 07:24 AM

It's not just in TV. I lived on country club courses twice back home and it happened on a daily basis during the summer.
That's why I chose not to live on a golf course here. It's going to happen. Always has, always will.

Mleeja 03-08-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by john1953 (Post 1025108)
For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

dbussone 03-08-2015 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1025025)
Living according to this logic would make it seem that if someone's golf ball breaks a window, they should just just take a penalty drop and move on. Surely those who don't want golfers retrieving their balls from the yard would not want them to ignore a broken window by "staying out of the yard"?

"Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it." - Rodney King

Interesting you should bring this up. The presumption on many courses is that if your window gets broken by an errant ball, it is not the golfer's responsibility to pay for the repair. Rather it is the problem of the home owner who elected to have a house on a golf course. This is the way it was on the course at our last home. Of course a golfer could always elect to assist in paying for damages.

keywest 03-08-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1025136)
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

YES...that is what the rule states...if YOUR ball passes the golf course boundry line....it is NO LONGER your ball and you forfeit it. I agree with the other poster who says we must have some real cheap golfers if you cannot afford to lose your ball, then maybe golf is a bit too expensive for you to play.

Cisco Kid 03-08-2015 08:28 AM

golf should be banned from TV

dewilson58 03-08-2015 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1025136)
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

I agree, use common sense......but it appears there are some within TV that have no common sense.

graciegirl 03-08-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1953 (Post 1025108)
For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1025157)
golf should be banned from TV


I love you Cisco. But that's not funny.


We have a sign in our den that says;


Golf is not a matter of life or death.
It is much more serious than that.

Mleeja 03-08-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by keywest (Post 1025154)
YES...that is what the rule states...if YOUR ball passes the golf course boundry line....it is NO LONGER your ball and you forfeit it. I agree with the other poster who says we must have some real cheap golfers if you cannot afford to lose your ball, then maybe golf is a bit too expensive for you to play.

So going back to an eariler post, based on your logic and comment as soon as that golf ball crosses that "line" and is no longer in the course, breaking a window, it is not your ball any longer? It belongs to the universe and you are not responsible for the damage?

Cisco Kid 03-08-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1025163)
I love you Cisco. But that's not funny.


We have a sign in our den that says;


Golf is not a matter of life or death.
It is much more serious than that.

If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

dewilson58 03-08-2015 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1025191)
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

But you will not be able to retrieve little poop that is six inches out of bounds..........that would be trespassing.

:a20:

graciegirl 03-08-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1025191)
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:


You know I love dogs. But I also love golf and adore my golfer.

Heaven on earth is seeing him after all those long hours and years working, playing golf as much as he wants.

OH...we are off the subject.

Stay out of Kitty's yard. She is a black belt.

Greg Nelson 03-08-2015 09:35 AM

I buy cheap Wilson balls. We rent on the 4th hole of the Nancy Lopez course. we're happy that the cart trail goes behind some bushes...no noise

dewilson58 03-08-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Nelson (Post 1025209)
I buy cheap Wilson balls. We rent on the 4th hole of the Nancy Lopez course. we're happy that the cart trail goes behind some bushes...no noise

Not all Wilson balls are cheap!!!!!

:a20:

Polar Bear 03-08-2015 09:43 AM

Golfers, please stay out of the garden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1025136)
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

Yep.

I wonder how many golf-front homeowners would mind the ball Mleeza describes being respectfully retrieved?

RedChariot 03-08-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1025191)
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

My lawn would appreciate that! As would I.


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