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Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:00 AM

We never were "America's Healthiest Hometown"
 
It was all just a big PR fabrication. Remember the USF Health survey that was supposed to be "proof" that we were "America's Healthiest Hometown"? Well, no, it didn't prove any such thing, so forget about it.

All the while they were calling the Villages, "America's Healthiest Hometown", Sumter was only the 20th healthiest county in the state as of 2010 and slowly moving up because we were importing healthier residents from other states. In other words, the Villages was growing fast and the new residents were healthier than the general population that existed (overall) in the county.

You can read about it on the front page of today's Daily Sun (March 30, 2015) Sumter county is now ranked 7th for overall health factors. Do they list the counties that beat us? No! Do they congratulate the winner? No! Was there any mention of how we might learn from the counties that did better than Sumter? No!

Instead, The Villages is busy taking credit for Sumter county having moved up to seventh place, and it's all positive spin control.

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?

I'll see if I can find out more about how the rankings were achieved? The article stated: "2015 national County Health Rankings analysis published by the University of Wisconsin Population Health Institute."

http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/blog/see-key-findings-our-2015-rankings (link not working)

Jayhawk 03-30-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037159)

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?


Why don't you find out and let us know?

I never once heard The Villages say it is the healthiest COUNTY. They say hometown. Unless you have something to prove it wrong. are you just stirring the pot?

Cheers.

NYGUY 03-30-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037159)
It was all just a big PR fabrication. Remember the USF Health survey that was supposed to be "proof" that we were "America's Healthiest Hometown"? Well, no, it didn't prove any such thing, so forget about it.

All the while they were calling the Villages, "America's Healthiest Hometown", Sumter was only the 20th healthiest county in the state as of 2010 and slowly moving up because we were importing healthier residents from other states. In other words, the Villages was growing fast and the new residents were healthier than the general population that existed (overall) in the county.

You can read about it on the front page of today's Daily Sun (March 30, 2015) Sumter county is now ranked 7th for overall health factors. Do they list the counties that beat us? No! Do they congratulate the winner? No! Was there any mention of how we might learn from the counties that did better than Sumter? No!

Instead, The Villages is busy taking credit for Sumter county having moved up to seventh place, and it's all positive spin control.

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?

Was there any mention of how the rankings were achieved? Not as far as I can tell. I'll see if I can find out more. The article stated: "2015 national County Health Rankings analysis published by the University of Wisconsin Population Health Institute." Perhaps someone might find it and provide a link.

Good questions...BTW, for all intent and purposes, we are Sumter County!!

Bogie Shooter 03-30-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037159)
It was all just a big PR fabrication. Remember the USF Health survey that was supposed to be "proof" that we were "America's Healthiest Hometown"? Well, no, it didn't prove any such thing, so forget about it.

All the while they were calling the Villages, "America's Healthiest Hometown", Sumter was only the 20th healthiest county in the state as of 2010 and slowly moving up because we were importing healthier residents from other states. In other words, the Villages was growing fast and the new residents were healthier than the general population that existed (overall) in the county.

You can read about it on the front page of today's Daily Sun (March 30, 2015) Sumter county is now ranked 7th for overall health factors. Do they list the counties that beat us? No! Do they congratulate the winner? No! Was there any mention of how we might learn from the counties that did better than Sumter? No!

Instead, The Villages is busy taking credit for Sumter county having moved up to seventh place, and it's all positive spin control.

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?

Was there any mention of how the rankings were achieved? Not as far as I can tell. I'll see if I can find out more. The article stated: "2015 national County Health Rankings analysis published by the University of Wisconsin Population Health Institute." Perhaps someone might find it and provide a link.

Didn't you start a previous thread on this topic??
BTW who really cares??

red tail 03-30-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1037171)
Didn't you start a previous thread on this topic??
BTW who really cares??

I don't!

RickeyD 03-30-2015 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037159)
It was all just a big PR fabrication. Remember the USF Health survey that was supposed to be "proof" that we were "America's Healthiest Hometown"? Well, no, it didn't prove any such thing, so forget about it.

All the while they were calling the Villages, "America's Healthiest Hometown", Sumter was only the 20th healthiest county in the state as of 2010 and slowly moving up because we were importing healthier residents from other states. In other words, the Villages was growing fast and the new residents were healthier than the general population that existed (overall) in the county.

You can read about it on the front page of today's Daily Sun (March 30, 2015) Sumter county is now ranked 7th for overall health factors. Do they list the counties that beat us? No! Do they congratulate the winner? No! Was there any mention of how we might learn from the counties that did better than Sumter? No!

Instead, The Villages is busy taking credit for Sumter county having moved up to seventh place, and it's all positive spin control.

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?

Was there any mention of how the rankings were achieved? Not as far as I can tell. I'll see if I can find out more. The article stated: "2015 national County Health Rankings analysis published by the University of Wisconsin Population Health Institute." Perhaps someone might find it and provide a link.


So what's the point ?

Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1037167)
Why don't you find out and let us know?

I never once heard The Villages say it is the healthiest COUNTY. They say hometown. Unless you have something to prove it wrong. are you just stirring the pot?

Cheers.

Good question. If you read the article, maybe you can tell me why the article acts as if Sumter is The Villages when we are actually in 3 counties, not just Sumter. And it's not just the reporter but the head of the Villages Health Clinics that seems to have the same mind set.

tuccillo 03-30-2015 10:40 AM

Sumter County has the highest average age of any county in the country, I believe. Since health generally diminishes with age, it is probably quite an accomplishment that Sumter is where it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037159)
It was all just a big PR fabrication. Remember the USF Health survey that was supposed to be "proof" that we were "America's Healthiest Hometown"? Well, no, it didn't prove any such thing, so forget about it.

All the while they were calling the Villages, "America's Healthiest Hometown", Sumter was only the 20th healthiest county in the state as of 2010 and slowly moving up because we were importing healthier residents from other states. In other words, the Villages was growing fast and the new residents were healthier than the general population that existed (overall) in the county.

You can read about it on the front page of today's Daily Sun (March 30, 2015) Sumter county is now ranked 7th for overall health factors. Do they list the counties that beat us? No! Do they congratulate the winner? No! Was there any mention of how we might learn from the counties that did better than Sumter? No!

Instead, The Villages is busy taking credit for Sumter county having moved up to seventh place, and it's all positive spin control.

If we are only 7th in Florida, where are we nationally?

I'll see if I can find out more about how the rankings were achieved? The article stated: "2015 national County Health Rankings analysis published by the University of Wisconsin Population Health Institute."

http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/blog/see-key-findings-our-2015-rankings (link not working)


wudda1955 03-30-2015 10:41 AM

Okay. Thanks for the info, I guess. Although as others have asked, I don't understand your point.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NYGUY (Post 1037169)
Good questions...BTW, for all intent and purposes, we are Sumter County!!

Here's another question: Being that we are in 3 counties, do we get to cherry pick the county with the best ranking? Or do we pick Sumter because we are a large part of Sumter.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1037171)
BTW who really cares??

You do.

manaboutown 03-30-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1037187)
Sumter County has the highest average age of any county in the country, I believe. Since health generally diminishes with age, it is probably quite an accomplishment that Sumter is where it is.

According to this site Marion County ranks #38, Sumter #7 and Lake #16 within the state of Florida. http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/.../2015/overview

Yorio 03-30-2015 10:49 AM

Catch phrase is better than no catch phrase. Let's keep on dreaming and maybe the wish will indeed come true. People gravitate towards catch phrases especially positive ones even if it doesn't come true. Look at politics. Anyone watch "Mad Men"? Admen make millions coming up with catch phrases. That's o.k.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1037177)
So what's the point ?

The point was plainly stated.

NYGUY 03-30-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037186)
....If you read the article, maybe you can tell me why the article acts as if Sumter is The Villages when we are actually in 3 counties, not just Sumter....

Because the population of The Villages in Sumter County, is far greater than the other two counties. That is why I said, for all intent and purposes, The Villages is Sumter County.

Bogie Shooter 03-30-2015 10:53 AM

:a20::a20:

Villages PL 03-30-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1037195)
According to this site Marion County ranks #42, Sumter #27 and Lake #19 within the state of Florida. Health Rankings | County Health Rankings & Roadmaps

I'll be darned. You're right. Thanks for the link.

Polar Bear 03-30-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1037201)
:a20::a20:

:rolleyes:

What Bogie said.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorio (Post 1037196)
Catch phrase is better than no catch phrase. Let's keep on dreaming and maybe the wish will indeed come true. People gravitate towards catch phrases especially positive ones even if it doesn't come true. Look at politics. Anyone watch "Mad Men"? Admen make millions coming up with catch phrases. That's o.k.

Is there any room for truth or facts in this equation? It's fine to dream about accomplishing something but to achieve the dream one would need to know 1) where you stand currently 2) where you want to go & 3) the best overall plan of action. I don't think a dream by itself accomplishes anything.

vzw1pr 03-30-2015 11:42 AM

We are moving to TV from Mi any advice on moving companies or whatever?

Villages PL 03-30-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1037195)
According to this site Marion County ranks #38, Sumter #7 and Lake #16 within the state of Florida. Health Rankings | County Health Rankings & Roadmaps

/// Correction: #7 for health factors and 27th. for health outcomes.

Snowbirdtobe 03-30-2015 11:44 AM

I read the report on countyhealthrankings .org and looked for good news about Sumter county and TV.

Some of the reported problems of low birthweight and teen births are not issues for Villagers.

There was, however, great news the Villages Marketing Machine might want to shout from the front page of the Daily Sunny.

Sexually transmitted infections were reported as 402 per 100,000 in Florida and 213 per 100,000 in Sumter County.
The reported rate was for Chlamydia and not other sexually transmitted infections.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowbirdtobe (Post 1037236)
I read the report on countyhealthrankings .org and looked for good news about Sumter county and TV.

Some of the reported problems of low birthweight and teen births are not issues for Villagers.

There was, however, great news the Villages Marketing Machine might want to shout from the front page of the Daily Sunny.

Sexually transmitted infections were reported as 402 per 100,000 in Florida and 213 per 100,000 in Sumter County.
The reported rate was for Chlamydia and not other sexually transmitted infections.

So if the ranking is good we'll take credit for it and to the extent that it's bad we'll claim it's not our fault.

graciegirl 03-30-2015 12:00 PM

Same old, same old.
 
Orthorexia: When Eating Healthy Becomes an Unhealthy Obsession

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-30-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037191)
Here's another question: Being that we are in 3 counties, do we get to cherry pick the county with the best ranking? Or do we pick Sumter because we are a large part of Sumter.

That's my question. The Villages and Sumter County are two different things. I don't know if statistics are developed for The Villages or not, but the numbers for Sumter County are not the numbers for The Villages.

I don't know how much of Sumter County residents live in The Villages, but there are other communities in Sumter County and residents that live in other parts of unincorporated parts of Sumter County. It may very well be that it is because of The Villages, that Sumter County Rates as high as it does.

Polar Bear 03-30-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1037245)

Interesting, gg. So there's actually a word for it...even though the term is not "official" yet. Just a couple of quotes...

"Frequently eating trans fatty foods such as French fries or processed snacks is not healthy behavior, but neither is becoming obsessive about avoiding them..."

"The 'worry factor' is one of the biggest indicators...If a client has too much anxiety over what they eat, then that stress may be worse for their health than what they’re actually eating."

tuccillo 03-30-2015 12:32 PM

I believe approximately 75% of the residents of Sumter County live in The Villages.

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1037247)
That's my question. The Villages and Sumter County are two different things. I don't know if statistics are developed for The Villages or not, but the numbers for Sumter County are not the numbers for The Villages.

I don't know how much of Sumter County residents live in The Villages, but there are other communities in Sumter County and residents that live in other parts of unincorporated parts of Sumter County. It may very well be that it is because of The Villages, that Sumter County Rates as high as it does.


dbussone 03-30-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1037257)
Interesting, gg. So there's actually a word for it...even though the term is not "official" yet. Just a couple of quotes...

"Frequently eating trans fatty foods such as French fries or processed snacks is not healthy behavior, but neither is becoming obsessive about avoiding them..."

"The 'worry factor' is one of the biggest indicators...If a client has too much anxiety over what they eat, then that stress may be worse for their health than what they’re actually eating."

Now there's a concept I understand, I just have difficulty pronouncing it.

dbussone 03-30-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1037245)

AND you provided a link for that. How thoughtful!

Barefoot 03-30-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1037235)
Could the news article be another PR fabrication on behalf of The Villages?

Are you suggesting there is some kind of giant conspiracy afoot by The Villages to pretend Villagers are healthier than they are?

chuckinca 03-30-2015 01:31 PM

From front page of the Daily Sun 3/26/15:


Marion Cty Pop: 339,167 including 10,205 Villagers
Sumter Cty Pop: 114,350 including 84,292 Villagers
Lake Cty Pop: 315,600 including 11,142 Villagers


.

TheVillageChicken 03-30-2015 01:34 PM

I'm pretty sure we have the lowest SIDS rate in the US.

CFrance 03-30-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1037213)
:rolleyes:

What Bogie said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1037201)
:a20::a20:

What Polar Bear said Bogie said.:icon_bored:

dbussone 03-30-2015 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1037307)
What Polar Bear said Bogie said.:icon_bored:

I'm all in!

NYGUY 03-30-2015 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1037295)
From front page of the Daily Sun 3/26/15:
Sumter Cty Pop: 114,350 including 84,292 Villagers



.

74%....Sumter County is The Villages.

Mudder 03-30-2015 01:58 PM

What Bogie, Polar and Gracie said.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1037187)
Sumter County has the highest average age of any county in the country, I believe. Since health generally diminishes with age, it is probably quite an accomplishment that Sumter is where it is.

I just learned something about the rankings. There are two parts: 1) health factors - rank 7th. & 2) health outcomes - rank 27th.

I was just told that they didn't report the health outcomes because the rest of the county is responsible for the poor showing of 27th.

But you suggested that age is a big factor. If most of the other communities in Sumter are younger, why would they be pulling us down? Wouldn't they be pulling us up?

Villages PL 03-30-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1037195)
According to this site Marion County ranks #38, Sumter #7 and Lake #16 within the state of Florida. Health Rankings | County Health Rankings & Roadmaps

Sumter is #7 for health factors but 27th for health outcomes. Notice that there are two maps on your link, one on the right and one on the left. One is for health outcomes and one is for health factors.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1037247)
That's my question. The Villages and Sumter County are two different things. I don't know if statistics are developed for The Villages or not, but the numbers for Sumter County are not the numbers for The Villages.

I don't know how much of Sumter County residents live in The Villages, but there are other communities in Sumter County and residents that live in other parts of unincorporated parts of Sumter County. It may very well be that it is because of The Villages, that Sumter County Rates as high as it does.

Sumter population: 114,350 including 84,292 Villagers.

For "health factors" Sumter ranks #7th. For "health outcomes" Sumter ranks #27th. According to the article, it seems The Villages community is taking credit for having moved up on the "health factors" ranking. But we are divorcing ourselves from the rest of the county when it comes to health outcomes. Even though the other communities only represent a small portion of the population, and are younger on average.

If that's not cherry picking, I don't know what is.

Villages PL 03-30-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1037282)
Are you suggesting there is some kind of giant conspiracy afoot by The Villages to pretend Villagers are healthier than they are?

I wouldn't use the phrase "giant conspiracy".

How would you explain what happened? 1) First The Villages claims to be America's Healthiest Hometown. 2) Then we only come in 7th in Florida 3) And for "health outcomes" we only rank #27th.

Is it ignorance? Incompetence? PR tactics to sell more homes?


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