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Allegiance 04-20-2015 05:53 AM

Is the Sharon Ugly and/or ill conceived?
 
I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/6...k/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

graciegirl 04-20-2015 06:06 AM

The Disney planners hired to design Spanish Springs were asked to create a "whimsical " Spanish Town Square as I have heard it. All Spanish towns have churches. The church on the square was part of the fantasy look. I won't tell you what I think, although some people have called me artistic. My aunt and one other. Alright, I like it. I really like it.

Here is the letter from Mark Morse. This was a couple of years after a group called Palms who badly wanted a performing arts center approached him and he offered the church on the square enlarged on HIS dime and they turned him down. Not big enough or something like that. Not what they wanted.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/wh...nterLetter.pdf

OBXNana 04-20-2015 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1048164)
I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/6...k/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

I can't speak for the aesthetics of the building and won't see it until June. I want to add to your Post Scriptum and ask the question why do some do nothing but criticize the developer? It seems to go both ways 50/50.

graciegirl 04-20-2015 06:17 AM

Why two threads?

Here is a thread from 2010 on the subject.

The Morses are damned when they don't and damned when they do.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ter-now-27033/

Allegiance 04-20-2015 06:28 AM

Computer froze for like ten minutes so I stupidly hit button again. Wish I could delete one.

justjim 04-20-2015 06:39 AM

I will answer your last question first with another question. Why do many continually criticize the Developer? I totally agree Everybody has a right to their opinion.

I don't think it's ugly. The photos I've seen on the inside are beautiful.

You can bet that the parking (if it's a problem) will be addressed.

Xavier 04-20-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1048163)
I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

To answer your question directly, NO, the Sharon is not ugly, but your post is.

We had the extreme pleasure of attending the Charter High School's "The Show Must Go On" program. Obviously you didn't. You really missed something spectacular. The Sharon is not as glitzy on the inside as we had expected, but a far cry from ugly. We welcome it to our community and are looking forward to future happy times there.

Life is grand. You should try to enjoy it instead of spending time looking for negatives.

Xavier

Challenger 04-20-2015 06:51 AM

Many in the comunity wanted a better venue for performances.. The MAN tried to get the residents behind an effort, but the main objection as I remember it, was the costs and ongoing expenses. Many efforts of this type in other communities have failed.

The MAN steps up and out of his pockets provides an incredible facility for the community. We b---- because a sub standard restaurant accross the square is not going to be continued in its failing format.

I love living in TV, but the more I read this forum, the more I am shocked by the financial and business ignorance of many of the posters.

" Beter to be quiet and have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tomwed 04-20-2015 06:57 AM

I think his or her deliberately provocative message is intended to cause maximum disruption and argument.
Either that or he or she really thinks the building is ugly.


I'll follow along until tee time.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...es/popcorn.gif

ps I need to work on my emoticon skills.

Bay Kid 04-20-2015 07:03 AM

I think it is a beautiful building. The pictures I have seen of the inside look fantastic. It fits right in with the town! Great job!

sunnyatlast 04-20-2015 07:27 AM

So if the developers had demolished the existing "church" building and bulldozed the rubble to use as fill under a new parking lot somewhere, you and the others would be b:tching about how wasteful they are of a perfectly good auditorium and small concert venue that could have been repurposed and expanded.

And if you knew what Spanish colonial architecture inspired by St. Augustine, FL
was, you'd know the Sharon was carefully incorporated into the architecture there at Spanish Springs.

As for people supposedly never saying anything negative about the developers, you could always buy the radio station and newspaper company, and you could buy a b:tch forum like this one, to have all the negative stuff aired that you want to.

Put your money where your mouth is, and then see if people who decry a $2 split plate charge at a restaurant and never tip more than a dollar bill will buy the product and performance.

bagboy 04-20-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1048182)
Many in the comunity wanted a better venue for performances.. The MAN tried to get the residents behind an effort, but the main objection as I remember it, was the costs and ongoing expenses. Many efforts of this type in other communities have failed.

The MAN steps up and out of his pockets provides an incredible facility for the community. We b---- because a sub standard restaurant accross the square is not going to be continued in its failing format.

I love living in TV, but the more I read this forum, the more I am shocked by the financial and business ignorance of many of the posters.

" Beter to be quiet and have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'


I couldn't agree more!

Mleeja 04-20-2015 07:49 AM

Critizers are going to criticize and haters are going to hate! When the new KBs opens it could be like best 5 star restaurant. However we will be reading 100s of comments of how bad it is and how the developer is screwing us poor Villagers. It gets kindof repetitive...

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-20-2015 08:30 AM

When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

Mleeja 04-20-2015 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048260)
When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

I know we are not to direct comments to specific users, but in this case I am because I am complementing Boogie's post. You have stated you position very well supported with facts. I would not call this type of post negative, but a well supported opinion. Others could learn from your post. :coolsmiley:

janmcn 04-20-2015 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1048272)
I know we are not to direct comments to specific users, but in this case I am because I am complementing Boogie's post. You have stated you position very well supported with facts. I would not call this type of post negative, but a well supported opinion. Others could learn from your post. :coolsmiley:


Also complimenting Boogie's well-thought out post with one additional thought. Mark Morse is not going to use a piece of land that could accommodate 800 homes for a performing art center or anything other than 800 homes to sell quickly. This business model explains the lack of churches, softball courts, bowling alleys, dog parks, etc in any area that could be developed.

Bonny 04-20-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1048163)
I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/6...k/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

I love the building. I also loved it before.
No reason to criticize the developer. They are developers which means they develop.

Taltarzac725 04-20-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048260)
When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

I have had visitors who have thought the same. Not a good location and that kind of an unappealing to the eye building. The original Church on the Square was beautiful. The Sharon does look quite attractive inside, however.

justjim 04-20-2015 09:14 AM

Well thought out post and perspective Dr. Winston. I have been to Spanish Springs on a night when entertainment was in the Church on The Square and it was full and there were lots of others enjoying the music and dancing on the Square too. I don't remember having a terrible time finding a parking space. Now, a parade like St. Patrick's, parking was a bit of a problem. If parking is a problem, I believe the Developer will come up with a solution.

Who knows about the long range plans for any of the Squares?

I do think that the Developer could be a little more transparent about long range plans for The Villages. I know in business you have to be careful,for obvious reasons, but many rumors etc. could be put to rest with a bit more transparency. Ooops---careful about negatives!

Like its already been said, let's just wait and see how this beautiful facility works.

janmcn 04-20-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1048304)
Well thought out post and perspective Dr. Winston. I have been to Spanish Springs on a night when entertainment was in the Church on The Square and it was full and there were lots of others enjoying the music and dancing on the Square too. I don't remember having a terrible time finding a parking space. Now, a parade like St. Patrick's, parking was a bit of a problem. If parking is a problem, I believe the Developer will come up with a solution.

Who knows about the long range plans for any of the Squares?

I do think that the Developer could be a little more transparent about long range plans for The Villages. I know in business you have to be careful,for obvious reasons, but many rumors etc. could be put to rest with a bit more transparency. Ooops---careful about negatives!

Like its already been said, let's just wait and see how this beautiful facility works.


A good place to hear what those long range plans are will be Mark Morse's state of The Villages speech in May. Tickets will be available starting next Monday, April 27, at 8:00am at The Sharon.

Xavier 04-20-2015 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048260)
When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PBA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

Miles42 04-20-2015 10:38 AM

I like the building and the concept.

asianthree 04-20-2015 11:23 AM

our son who has spent numerous years in Mexico walked past this week and pointed out that it looked exactly like a small church in Mexico with the monastery attached. he actually has pictures that look almost exactly alike and in the same color configuration that it has been painted. so I guess in keeping with the Spanish Springs mode they hit the nail on the head.

looneycat 04-20-2015 11:29 AM

in an area where people flock to see cover bands this type of venue will be perfect.

Taltarzac725 04-20-2015 11:30 AM

The Sharon | Schedule - The Villages Sharon L. Morse Performing Arts Center

These look like good choices for the Villages.

mrdills 04-20-2015 12:12 PM

A little surprized
 
I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

Bogie Shooter 04-20-2015 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1048163)
I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/6...k/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

And what would the survey accomplish?

Bogie Shooter 04-20-2015 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 1048309)
It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PGA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

How can this be? I read on TOTV from some very knowledge posters there are/will be many problems.:clap2:

Bogie Shooter 04-20-2015 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdills (Post 1048439)
I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

........to include a souvenir mug.:ho:

JoMar 04-20-2015 01:17 PM

Just a question.......what was the difference when it was The Church on The Square, seating capacity, frequency of shows, other uses for the facility? Is there that much difference between the two that it will cause SS to implode?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-20-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1048218)
So if the developers had demolished the existing "church" building and bulldozed the rubble to use as fill under a new parking lot somewhere, you and the others would be b:tching about how wasteful they are of a perfectly good auditorium and small concert venue that could have been repurposed and expanded.

And if you knew what Spanish colonial architecture inspired by St. Augustine, FL
was, you'd know the Sharon was carefully incorporated into the architecture there at Spanish Springs.

As for people supposedly never saying anything negative about the developers, you could always buy the radio station and newspaper company, and you could buy a b:tch forum like this one, to have all the negative stuff aired that you want to.

Put your money where your mouth is, and then see if people who decry a $2 split plate charge at a restaurant and never tip more than a dollar bill will buy the product and performance.

Who said anything about demolishing the Church on the Square and turning it into a parking lot.

I think that the main concern of most people is that Town Square at Spanish Springs is not the best place to put a big performance center. The Church could have been left as it was ad a larger performance center could have been built at another location. In fact it could have been built where the Savannah Center now sits. Do we really need two performance centers of 800 seats and 1,000 seats within a few miles of one another?

Xavier 04-20-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048484)
Who said anything about demolishing the Church on the Square and turning it into a parking lot.

I think that the main concern of most people is that Town Square at Spanish Springs is not the best place to put a big performance center. The Church could have been left as it was ad a larger performance center could have been built at another location. In fact it could have been built where the Savannah Center now sits. Do we really need two performance centers of 800 seats and 1,000 seats within a few miles of one another?

I'm thinking that the Church on the Square was chronically underused and that is what brought the Developer(s) to the point of looking for a solution to two problems, a beautiful white elephant that was turning into a money-pit and the need for a more professional venue for the Performing Arts.

I'd dare bet that both locations, the Savannah Center and The Sharon, will be sufficiently used. Any takers?

Xavier

Xavier 04-20-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1048472)
How can this be? I read on TOTV from some very knowledge posters there are/will be many problems.:clap2:

Miracles happen, my friend. Miracles happen. Not all wisdom is divested solely amongst the Negative-Nellies. I think the Morse family may have a bit of it (wisdom) too!

Xavier

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-20-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 1048309)
It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PBA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

I agree 100%. There is nothing anyone can do about it now. It''s not the end of the world and of course, we'll all learn to live with it.

I hope that it works out and that everyone attending events there will have the same experience as you.

Xavier 04-20-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048508)
I agree 100%. There is nothing anyone can do about it now. It''s not the end of the world and of course, we'll all learn to live with it.

I hope that it works out and that everyone attending events there will have the same experience as you.

I feel the key to the whole thing is that we need to have reasonable expectations and take some initiative upon ourselves. This entitled mind-set that has, from time to time, been exhibited around The Villages, by a small group of Villagers, is enough to drive us all down the path to distraction.

Xavier

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-20-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1048412)

Patti Lupone I am not interested in but obviously it sold out so either a lot of people like her or a lot of people are interested in the opening of the new venue.

I would love to see the Million Dollar Quartet but not for $65-$100

Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Crystal Gayle is very good and $45.00 to $65.00 is reasonable.

The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, again has no members of the original band. But, again $29.00 to $39.00 is reasonable for a good tribute band.

Amy Grant tickets run up to $125.00. I think that you can see her from orchestra seats for about $40.00 most places she plays.


Deana Martin? Dean Martin's daughter? Really?

Lee Greenwood will sell out here no matter what. Even though he's a one hit wonder, his one hit is like the national anthem of The Villages.

It's pretty much just what I expect and what I've been saying. Not a lot of great acts and ticket prices are too high for the more popular ones.

NJblue 04-20-2015 02:34 PM

While I liked the visual symmetry of the old configuration, the new building is a long way from ugly. I think SS is a good location for it. We have to remember that this building must be economically viable to survive. My guess is that part of its appeal to the devloper was the fact that, by putting it in a town center, it makes the restaurants and shops in town more profitable by virtue of more people coming into the area. More profits for the businesses mean more profits for the developer that can be used to prove in the economic viability of the performing arts center. I tip my hat to them on this and wish them luck.

Bonny 04-20-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1048527)
While I liked the visual symmetry of the old configuration, the new building is a long way from ugly. I think SS is a good location for it. We have to remember that this building must be economically viable to survive. My guess is that part of its appeal to the devloper was the fact that, by putting it in a town center, it makes the restaurants and shops in town more profitable by virtue of more people coming into the area. More profits for the businesses mean more profits for the developer that can be used to prove in the economic viability of the performing arts center. I tip my hat to them on this and wish them luck.

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NJblue 04-20-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1048520)
Patti Lupone I am not interested in but obviously it sold out so either a lot of people like her or a lot of people are interested in the opening of the new venue.

I would love to see the Million Dollar Quartet but not for $65-$100

Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Crystal Gayle is very good and $45.00 to $65.00 is reasonable.

The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, again has no members of the original band. But, again $29.00 to $39.00 is reasonable for a good tribute band.

Amy Grant tickets run up to $125.00. I think that you can see her from orchestra seats for about $40.00 most places she plays.


Deana Martin? Dean Martin's daughter? Really?

Lee Greenwood will sell out here no matter what. Even though he's a one hit wonder, his one hit is like the national anthem of The Villages.

It's pretty much just what I expect and what I've been saying. Not a lot of great acts and ticket prices are too high for the more popular ones.

I understand the gist of your post and absent data, I would have agreed with you. Turns out the Million Dollar Quartet is essentially sold out, so they must have hit a good price point for TV.

You dis my Amy Grant? You are wrong on that as well:
Amy Grant May 23, 2015
With prices up to $150 elsewhere, seeing her at The Sharon is a bargain.

Beechie 04-20-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdills (Post 1048439)
I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

Not that it would be expected, but what a wonderful unveiling to The Villagers to have had an open house with drinks and snacks. Scheduled walkthrus over a couple of days. Perhaps a missed opportunity.


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