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hulahips 05-30-2015 10:45 AM

Almost witnessed fight at Sharon
 
Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Yung Dum 05-30-2015 10:48 AM

I can never understand why people take pictures instead of watching the show they paid to see.

golfing eagles 05-30-2015 10:49 AM

I guess no matter where you live, there is always someone who does not think the rules apply to THEM.

CFrance 05-30-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Yung Dum (Post 1067326)
I can never understand why people take pictures instead of watching the show they paid to see.

Me neither. We borrowed a videocamera once to take on a trip and ended up putting it away after the first day. Couldn't see the forest for the trees.

You have to wonder why the guy just didn't go get an usher.

TheVillageChicken 05-30-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1067323)
Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Ironically, it sounds like the complainant was more annoying than the scofflaw.

2BNTV 05-30-2015 11:40 AM

I was at KB's when Donna Moore was appearing and a couple were talking so loudly, it ruined the performance for me. They also got up and were dancing in the aisle in front of me obviously blocking the view. I let management know and they were spoken to.

How rude and inconsiderate some people can be. Some people think it's all about them. :(

I would have reported this episode to management when it started to happen and let them handle the inconsiderate person.

hulahips 05-30-2015 11:48 AM

I could see maybe trying to snap one quick picture of the performer but then you really should put it away especially since they made the announcement prior to the show. In the dark I guess the lights the phones give off can be distracting. Maybe the fellow didn't want to run around to find an usher and miss the show is all I can think of

Hancle704 05-30-2015 12:01 PM

There are some VIP's very important people (in their mind only) who are of opinion that rules do not apply to them and show no consideration for others. They are at shows, movie theaters, on the road and town squares. Might as well get used to the reality that they exist and they won't change.

missypie 05-30-2015 12:03 PM

Years ago my parents took me to the Met in NY. A woman sitting in front of us was humming along with the opera singer. My dad leaned into her and said "I paid to hear Her sing not you". Boy, that shut her up fast.

2BNTV 05-30-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1067370)
I could see maybe trying to snap one quick picture of the performer but then you really should put it away especially since they made the announcement prior to the show. In the dark I guess the lights the phones give off can be distracting. Maybe the fellow didn't want to run around to find an usher and miss the show is all I can think of

Probably that is the case but doing a slow burn and being annoyed throughout the whole performance would not have been an option for me. I'd rather have missed a couple of songs, that ruin the whole evening. By yelling at the end of the performance, he makes himself look bad to those around him. IMHO

What part did this idiot not understand about putting away all phones and cameras? The show is meant to be enjoyed by all people and just not those who feel they are more entitled.

Went to a Ranger game at Tampa and some idiot constantly stood up at seminal moments in the game as if he had paid more for his ticket than people sitting behind him and all they could see was his back. I felt like whacking in the head with a broom, to knock some sense in him, but that's me.

You can't fix stupid!

Barefoot 05-30-2015 12:09 PM

I keep waiting for the day that a person being complained about in a thread is a member of TOTV.
I've been waiting since 2007, but it's never happened.
Or perhaps the person being complained about is too embarrassed to post a defense.
:shrug:

sunnyatlast 05-30-2015 12:11 PM

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

Boudicca 05-30-2015 12:18 PM

We were at the Black Tie Gala First Night show with Pattie Lupone as the performer. Despite the requests for no cameras etc., people up front took pictures throughout the performance. You can't fix stupid, nor selfish.

duffysmom 05-30-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1067393)
Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.


:1rotfl::1rotfl:

billybye 05-30-2015 12:31 PM

Where was management (ushers etc.) while this was going on

outlaw 05-30-2015 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1067393)
Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

It's called a loving relationship...

kcrazorbackfan 05-30-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billybye (Post 1067406)
Where was management (ushers etc.) while this was going on

Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

JoMar 05-30-2015 02:28 PM

We have been to a couple shows at The Sharon and have experienced the same camera idiots. One reason they don't want you to use the camera is the show is copywrited and the performer doesn't want their performances compromised. The second is the distraction for others watching the show. When the phones or worse, the tablets, are held up, the people behind can't see. It's a matter of respect, for both the performers and the people that attend. When I have attended other shows in strongly managed venues, people that turn on a camera or tablet have been escorted from the venue. I have also been to performances where the act has stopped performing. I fear, that until The Sharon takes a strong management position the venue will not be the Performing Arts Center that was envisioned, but an extension of the Savannah Center and the squares where those that ignore the rules successfully will encourage more to do the same and the audiences will deteriorate in behavior. We already see people attending in torn jeans and tee shirts. It's up to management to determine what they want The Sharon to represent.......maybe they are ok with camera's and dress and rudeness, as long as they sell the tickets.

graciegirl 05-30-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1067441)
Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

What would you have done?

CFrance 05-30-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1067392)
I keep waiting for the day that a person being complained about in a thread is a member of TOTV.
I've been waiting since 2007, but it's never happened.
Or perhaps the person being complained about is too embarrassed to post a defense.
:shrug:

I doubt they would own up to it.

kcrazorbackfan 05-30-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1067458)
What would you have done?

GG, that's really hard to say without being in the moment. Even though they won't say anything, I probably would have found a manager so it would have been on record in case something happened. It's always been so easy to play "what if", but those days are behind me. I've never been one to scream and yell at someone; I can really get something done with my quiet, "get the point across" voice.

Bogie Shooter 05-30-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1067441)
Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

I disagree, plenty of managers have spoken to unruly guests.....that I have observed first hand.
Really has nothing to do with TV being "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".

rubicon 05-30-2015 03:47 PM

This conversation is the main reason I stopped going to baseball, basketball, hockey and football games. its the same reason I stopped going to the movies and the same reason I stopped going to Performance Art Centers. Too many jerks. Who needs the hassle at those prices

CSilvestrucci 05-30-2015 03:48 PM

A few weeks ago I went to see Jose feliciano at Savannah. Young kids were texting on their lap a few rows in front of us and the usher was right there to stop it. A few adults tried to take pics and film and ushers again were right there. I wonder why it is different at The Sharon.

CFrance 05-30-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1067512)
This conversation is the main reason I stopped going to baseball, basketball, hockey and football games. its the same reason I stopped going to the movies and the same reason I stopped going to Performance Art Centers. Too many jerks. Who needs the hassle at those prices

Rubicon, I'm sorry you let these people ruin your enjoyment of these sports and performances. You let them win!

Personally, I would keep going to them but make sure I knew where to find an usher.

RedChariot 05-30-2015 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1067393)
Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

Funny you should mention about such a couple. We went to see the Temptations at the Sharon. No one in front of us. Half way through the show in walks a young woman about 6 ft tall. He was just as tall. She was one of those long haired girls that keeps flipping her whole head of hair from side to side. He could not keep his hands off her. He was rubbing her back, kissing her ear and neck. Cringe. Really?! Do you really need to do all this right here? Get a room. Oh BTW, senior mom and dad were sitting next to them. Kids came later. Wonder why. Hmmmm.....

Tweety Bird 05-30-2015 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1067393)
Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

Maybe you wished it was your neck that was being rubbed? You don't need a room for a neck rub. :D

graciegirl 05-30-2015 08:31 PM

My Aunt Jane said

there is a time and place for everything.

And my grandmother said

Don't make love at the garden gate.
Love is blind, but the neighbors ain't.

dbussone 05-30-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1067618)
My Aunt Jane said



there is a time and place for everything.



And my grandmother said



Don't make love at the garden gate.

Love is blind, but the neighbors ain't.


You have quite the family. Have you ever thought about writing a book of quotes? I'd buy it!

karostay 05-31-2015 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1067323)
Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Unfortunately it's a small percentage of people that only believe In

ME, ME, ME, I, I, I, you can see it everyday here

Warren Kiefer 05-31-2015 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1067323)
Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

So was there a fight you almost witnessed or did you witness an almost fight ??:wave:

perrjojo 05-31-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 1067739)
So was there a fight you almost witnessed or did you witness an almost fight ??:wave:

Kinda what I was thinking. :beer3:

hulahips 05-31-2015 08:39 AM

Almost witnessed a fight. So glad we have the grammar police monitoring the site. Most of the time I am running from one event to another here in the villages and do not take the time to proof read my writing. Life is too short. I have a lot to accomplish yet so I post a quick blurb here and there in between enjoying the villages lifestyle. While using the iPad, mistakes are likely to occur.

capecoralbill 05-31-2015 09:02 AM

Sounds like you wanted to sensationalize a minor incident. It is a good topic, I don't agree with using camera's/phones when asked not to. But Hula, you are going the direction of Ferguson, MO. 'hands up don't shoot'.

sunnyatlast 05-31-2015 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capecoralbill (Post 1067788)
Sounds like you wanted to sensationalize a minor incident. It is a good topic, I don't agree with using camera's/phones when asked not to. But Hula, you are going the direction of Ferguson, MO. 'hands up don't shoot'.

No, you are the only person who injected that "sensationalized" subject in here.

hulahips 05-31-2015 09:12 AM

Sensationalize?? Lol. Now that is funny. You are kidding, right??

DeanFL 05-31-2015 09:24 AM

Here we go again. An innocent post by an OP gets ridiculed by a minority of ToTV folks - so simple to do behind their comfy private keyboard. I personally love to navigate thru the Board and have for a couple years now. The only distasteful part is those folks who feel they must chime in with snarky personal comments. Man, I just hope my english grammar was proper here.

And - personally the OP has every right to bring this topic to the front. I can only imagine my angst if an audience member was so disruptive to others. If this is an ongoing issue at the Sharon - it should be announced that NO pictures or videos are allowed. Subject to removal from the event. period. And monitor by ushers.

Sandtrap328 05-31-2015 09:31 AM

Either way, we all have seen similar things happen. There will always be some people who take pictures when asked not to do so. There will be people who get upset and say something. Doubtful if anyone has seen it escalate to a fight.

If it really bothers a person, they should get an usher to intervene.

It is the ones who sing along out loud that irritate me. I have shushed them and that usually works.

perrjojo 05-31-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1067800)
Here we go again. An innocent post by an OP gets ridiculed by a minority of ToTV folks - so simple to do behind their comfy private keyboard. I personally love to navigate thru the Board and have for a couple years now. The only distasteful part is those folks who feel they must chime in with snarky personal comments. Man, I just hope my english grammar was proper here.

And - personally the OP has every right to bring this topic to the front. I can only imagine my angst if an audience member was so disruptive to others. If this is an ongoing issue at the Sharon - it should be announced that NO pictures or videos are allowed. Subject to removal from the event. period. And monitor by ushers.

I don't think the grammar police meant to be mean or unkind, it just sorta made me smile. The written word can't show a smile, inflection or body language so it often gets misunderstood.

zonerboy 05-31-2015 01:18 PM

Maybe we should arm ourselves with small water pistols when attending movies or concerts. Then if we see a I-phone or I-pad held up and a whispered warning is ineffective, we can make sure the device gets wet.


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