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PattyPan1 07-17-2015 06:16 PM

Deed Compliance
 
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.

I was steaming mad and called the office to see who complained. They told me that there were approximately 30 complaints registered that day by the same person. All the complaints were around the Buttonwood area.

Of course, the complaints were made anonymously.

If someone has a complaint, they should have to put there name down, especially when there are over 30 complaints.

Some people must have nothing better to do then drive around neighborhoods and report just about anything.

If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off, but having sneaky, vicious people just doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto.

Force people to give there names and I bet the complaints drop down considerably.

Matt and Gail 07-17-2015 06:24 PM

Better yet.....
 
Try to follow the deed restrictions that are part of our community! Look around the standards are pretty evident (IMHO) in most areas. This happens all the time in all neighborhoods, but it all starts with a presumed violation.

No negative thoughts toward the OP, just sayin....

:boom:

CatskillBill 07-17-2015 07:04 PM

You said, and I quote: "If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off". Bad attitude. That's why people turned you in.



Quote:

Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1088380)
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.

I was steaming mad and called the office to see who complained. They told me that there were approximately 30 complaints registered that day by the same person. All the complaints were around the Buttonwood area.

Of course, the complaints were made anonymously.

If someone has a complaint, they should have to put there name down, especially when there are over 30 complaints.

Some people must have nothing better to do then drive around neighborhoods and report just about anything.

If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off, but having sneaky, vicious people just doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto.

Force people to give there names and I bet the complaints drop down considerably.


KeepingItReal 07-17-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1088380)
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.

I was steaming mad and called the office to see who complained. They told me that there were approximately 30 complaints registered that day by the same person. All the complaints were around the Buttonwood area.

Of course, the complaints were made anonymously.

If someone has a complaint, they should have to put there name down, especially when there are over 30 complaints.

Some people must have nothing better to do then drive around neighborhoods and report just about anything.

If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off, but having sneaky, vicious people just doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto.

Force people to give there names and I bet the complaints drop down considerably.

No worries, apparently deed restrictions don't really mean anything anyway. Villages Realty has a for sale yard sign in the back yard of a house for sale backing up to Pinellas just a few houses up from the Morse gate and nothing has been done about it. Sign has been there a while now, guess we can all use a for sale yard sign also if the Villages Realty can do it with no problems..

Anyone selling their home should now be free to place a yard sign also if they desire...


queasy27 07-17-2015 07:50 PM

Quote:

You said, and I quote: "If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off". Bad attitude. That's why people turned you in.
I think the OP meant that if she in fact agreed that her lawn had problems, she wouldn't be angry about a complaint being filed.

What bothered me about being reported a couple of years back is that the specific violation did NOT contravene my deed, however the compliance person was ignorant of the rules. The second time he came back, I showed him my deed, but he said the community "matrix" overrode it. The third time he came back, I called the compliance office while he was there and had the person I spoke to before re-explain the rules to him.

In the OPs case as well, it doesn't seem as though the compliance person who came by had any authority to make a determination about whether or not there was an infraction -- it's just: (1) somebody complained, (2) here's your written warning.

Jayhawk 07-17-2015 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt and Gail (Post 1088383)
Try to follow the deed restrictions that are part of our community! Look around the standards are pretty evident (IMHO) in most areas. This happens all the time in all neighborhoods, but it all starts with a presumed violation.

No negative thoughts toward the OP, just sayin....

:boom:

Agree 100%. We all signed the deed with the restrictions and rules. Follow them or .........

If you were in violation, I am satisfied that someone reported it, whether it was 1 or 30.

Keep America and The Villages Beautiful !!!!!!!

samhass 07-17-2015 08:34 PM

Unfair
 
I think it is so wrong of Deed Compliance to depend upon neighbors turning in neighbors before something can be rectified. The Villages set the standards, and they should be making homeowners comply based on their findings..not mine.. . That is not my job and I would not be willing to hurt a neighbor. It is their job, and I wish they would step up to the plate. The current "complaint driven" procedure pits neighbor against neighbor, and that is a disgrace and a cop out by TV. Community Watch used to police things, and that worked for me.

graciegirl 07-17-2015 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1088408)
No worries, apparently deed restrictions don't really mean anything anyway. Villages Realty has a for sale yard sign in the back yard of a house for sale backing up to Pinellas just a few houses up from the Morse gate and nothing has been done about it. Sign has been there a while now, guess we can all use a for sale yard sign also if the Villages Realty can do it with no problems..

Anyone selling their home should now be free to place a yard sign also if they desire...



It has to be reported before Deed Compliance can act.

I have no sympathy for people trying to evade deed compliance. It is one of the main reasons many of us bought here..

Challenger 07-17-2015 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samhass (Post 1088442)
I think it is so wrong of Deed Compliance to depend upon neighbors turning in neighbors before something can be rectified. The Villages set the standards, and they should be making homeowners comply based on their findings..not mine.. I live by someone that grossly violates standards, yet I refuse to be the one to turn them in. That is not my job and I would not be willing to hurt a neighbor. It is their job, and I wish they would step up to the plate. The current "complaint driven" procedure pits neighbor against neighbor, and that is a disgrace and a cop out by TV.

It is not you hurting the neighbor. they are the sinners. their acts will deminish your values it left unreported(over time).

Jayhawk 07-17-2015 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1088443)
It has to be reported before Deed Compliance can act.

I have no sympathy for people trying to evade deed compliance. It is one of the main reasons many of us bought here..

You speak the gospel, sistah!!!!!

:bigbow:

DonH57 07-17-2015 08:54 PM

These many anonymous complaints seem to strike one village or neighborhood one after another. This seems to be a trend. Last week while in the garage I happen to notice a lady driving a red older Chevrolet walking around between yards with a notepad writing things down. At first I accessed maybe someone trying to drum up landscaping business. I never seen her go up to the doors of houses. A neighbor three houses came out and I couldn't hear the conversation. She drove off. I haven't got to speak to him yet but a know he didn't call the sheriff so who knows. The lady was driving a red chevrolet cavalier.

Wandatime 07-17-2015 09:08 PM

Sometimes a person gets a complaint on them and they want revenge so they stomp up and down the street writing up the transgressions of everyone else in the neighborhood.

maryanna630 07-17-2015 09:18 PM

I just do not understand why, when you agreed to the restrictions and wanted to buy here, that you feel resentful when someone reports you for a violation. Anonymous, not anonymous, it is YOU who are in violation. Please explain to me why you should be upset and not the people who follow the rules. I really do not enjoy looking at anyones good idea of yard art! Flame me if you wish.

Allegiance 07-17-2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1088454)
These many anonymous complaints seem to strike one village or neighborhood one after another. This seems to be a trend. Last week while in the garage I happen to notice a lady driving a red older Chevrolet walking around between yards with a notepad writing things down. At first I accessed maybe someone trying to drum up landscaping business. I never seen her go up to the doors of houses. A neighbor three houses came out and I couldn't hear the conversation. She drove off. I haven't got to speak to him yet but a know he didn't call the sheriff so who knows. The lady was driving a red chevrolet cavalier.

Is this not trespassing?

njbchbum 07-17-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1088380)
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.
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Are a couple of weeds and an empty flower pot deed restrictions?

kcrazorbackfan 07-17-2015 10:23 PM

I didn't realize that there is a 10' no 'scape zone behind homes that back up to streets; the people we bought our home from put a row of boxwoods right up to the sidewalk. Nothing has been said to me, but, I'm going to be proactive and remove a few of the bushes and put sod in their place since I'm getting ready to do some other landscaping. Besides, the bush next to the sidewalk gets hammered everyday with dog pee.

DonH57 07-17-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088466)
Is this not trespassing?

If trespassing means setting one foot on a yard I suppose but she never walked into peoples yards in a strange manner. I didn't witness this person step more than one foot within a yard. She never walked onto driveways, up to doors or windows or parked cars. She never put flyers or mailers on houses or cars. She mainly walked up and down the street taking notes stopping in front of homes. I didn't see her solicit. I only posted this in hopes others have seen behavior like this in the villages where there have been multiple complaints of deed compliance like the one with 97 complaints if I remember the older posts.

JoMar 07-17-2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samhass (Post 1088442)
I think it is so wrong of Deed Compliance to depend upon neighbors turning in neighbors before something can be rectified. The Villages set the standards, and they should be making homeowners comply based on their findings..not mine.. I live by someone that grossly violates standards, yet I refuse to be the one to turn them in. That is not my job and I would not be willing to hurt a neighbor. It is their job, and I wish they would step up to the plate. The current "complaint driven" procedure pits neighbor against neighbor, and that is a disgrace and a cop out by TV.

Which is why you can notify anonymously. The value of your home, the appearance of your neighborhood is dependent on everyone that lives there. If you hare happy with it then stay silent....but don't push the responsibility to someone else....they don't have to live with it you do. That's why WE are in control of our neighborhoods.

Newbeginnings 07-18-2015 04:59 AM

We have friends that are snowbirds, here only from November thru May. They asked us to drive by once a week just to check on the house. They have a lawn service, pool maintenance year round and a home watch service while they are gone. I walked through there yard yesterday taking pictures of all the weeds, the long grass and the dirty pool, sent the pictures to them via my iphone. My point was to let them know the poor service they are getting from these companies, so they could make the phone calls to these companies to get better service. I'm sure it it keeps up someone is going to complain, so they have a heads up now and can fire or complain to there service people.
Some of these companies take advantage of the snowbirds and let things go if no one is there to complain to them. They thanked us for letting them know what was going on and did call the companies.

rubicon 07-18-2015 05:02 AM

The OP expressed anger and so it would appear that if Deed Compliance was required to identify complainants that people like the OP would be confronting them.

Deed Compliance does have to be residents driven because it is our community, because there has to be a complaint before action can be undertaken and because the people who readily see the problems are the people living in the area.

For the sake of perspective how many residents receive compliments about the care of their properties. People by nature rather pay a compliment than criticize. Residents who fail to take care for their property place their neighbors in a very bad position.

With the purchase of my first home there was a next door neighbor of mine
whose actual quote about removal of snow was "God put it there God can take it away" It caused havoc . He never mowed his lawn until one day when talking with my neighbors we heard a lawn mower. sure enough he came around the back mowed right down the middle of his back yard, disappeared and then there was silence. He re-appeared with a putter and golf ball and proceeded to practice his putting where he had mowed one strip down the middle of his back yard. My neighbors and I could have used Deed Compliance back then

So in my view I like Deed Compliance and I want them to come down hard on violators or we are going to find some residents who will end up parking their cars on blocks in their driveways

Allegiance 07-18-2015 05:38 AM

Silly question... Is the developer allowed to store building materials, sod, trucks, heavy equipment for many days and nights on empty tear down lots? There are a few of these on the pre historic side.

mulligan 07-18-2015 05:54 AM

I would bet if several neighbors called Community Standards and complained about the equipment/material storage, it would be moved. If it it truly a concern, don't wait for someone else to make the call.

HimandMe 07-18-2015 06:34 AM

One self-appointed snitch looking for minor things to report to Deed Compliance not only annoys Deed Compliance but upsets way too many good people and invites hatred towards themselves as eventually they will be found out. Shame on you.

TNLAKEPANDA 07-18-2015 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1088380)
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.

I was steaming mad and called the office to see who complained. They told me that there were approximately 30 complaints registered that day by the same person. All the complaints were around the Buttonwood area.

Of course, the complaints were made anonymously.

If someone has a complaint, they should have to put there name down, especially when there are over 30 complaints.

Some people must have nothing better to do then drive around neighborhoods and report just about anything.

If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off, but having sneaky, vicious people just doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto.

Force people to give there names and I bet the complaints drop down considerably.

I agree totally and every neighborhood has one or two of those people including ours! :boxing2:

Villageswimmer 07-18-2015 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1088529)
One self-appointed snitch looking for minor things to report to Deed Compliance not only annoys Deed Compliance but upsets way too many good people and invites hatred towards themselves as eventually they will be found out. Shame on you.

Wow...you sound so upset and stressed. In the major scheme of things, this is no big deal. Let it go and enjoy another beautiful day in TV. Namaste.

Jima64 07-18-2015 07:07 AM

Be thankful
 
At least most residents are concerned about the homes and lawns to take care of them. Have a feeling someone got a burr up their butt about something and decided to seek revenge on everyone. Ita all about karma for that person eventually.

graciegirl 07-18-2015 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1088529)
One self-appointed snitch looking for minor things to report to Deed Compliance not only annoys Deed Compliance but upsets way too many good people and invites hatred towards themselves as eventually they will be found out. Shame on you.



Since that is the way deed compliance is set up, then one needs to either be very careful to keep one's property up to standards or expect that someone will complain.


Perhaps this is a new experience for some to live in a deed restricted area, but what seems like an annoyance to folks new to it, will find that deed restrictions promote a well maintained community and protects the investment of all of the folks living in it.


It would be easier if we paid someone's salary to report infringements but it would also be an added expense.


I think the person who made thirty reports may have done all a favor. Non compliant people are not sure if it is a neighbor who complained or a stranger.


Perhaps instead of complaining against being turned in, just remedy what is non compliant?


Most residents are very satisfied with having deed restrictions and sooner or later ( when folks sell their property) those who don't like them may see the benefits.

coconutmama 07-18-2015 07:47 AM

I think we all basically enjoy a deed compliance community, but in my opinion anyone who submits multiple complaints about properties not in their immediate proximity is a fuss budget & should be ignored by the deed compliance office. The complainer should be required to provide their name after the first complaint, if the situation is not resolved. A constant complainer is no better than a busybody. I live in Buttonwood & no one's property offends me. We go for a golf cart ride throughout the neighborhood often. All homes are well kept in my opinion. It is a beautiful neighborhood. A few homes may have a couple of weeds, but I presume they are seasonal owners & will take care of it when they return. All still looks nice to me. If a person's immediate neighbors complain, and I mean more than one, than there is an issue which should be addressed. Besides, how does one define a "bad" lawn? All is subjective. I am confident that the OP will remove or fill the offending empty pot. If that is all someone has to complain about, I feel badly for them.

graciegirl 07-18-2015 07:52 AM

Deed compliance is one of the frequently discussed issues on this forum. Here is a thread from last year giving the number to call.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...d+restrictions

Bogie Shooter 07-18-2015 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088513)
Silly question... Is the developer allowed to store building materials, sod, trucks, heavy equipment for many days and nights on empty tear down lots? There are a few of these on the pre historic side.

Would you rather the Developer was not doing what they are doing to upgrade your neighborhood? Shame on you.

Allegiance 07-18-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1088566)
Would you rather the Developer was not doing what they are doing to upgrade your neighborhood? Shame on you.

I don't feel any shame for bringing up the subject. I am not even sure its the developer or his contractor. BUT why are they using a lot for storage, for many months, as they build out other homes in the area? I doubt they are allowed to. If I were next door to the storage lot I might complain. It only slightly irks me as I drive by everday.

Shame on YOU for attempting to shame me. ;)

Too many are too quick to defend the almighty Oz. They did a great job but are not perfect. If it did not help their bottom line they would not be upgrading anything.

DonH57 07-18-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1088502)
The OP expressed anger and so it would appear that if Deed Compliance was required to identify complainants that people like the OP would be confronting them.

Deed Compliance does have to be residents driven because it is our community, because there has to be a complaint before action can be undertaken and because the people who readily see the problems are the people living in the area.

For the sake of perspective how many residents receive compliments about the care of their properties. People by nature rather pay a compliment than criticize. Residents who fail to take care for their property place their neighbors in a very bad position.

With the purchase of my first home there was a next door neighbor of mine
whose actual quote about removal of snow was "God put it there God can take it away" It caused havoc . He never mowed his lawn until one day when talking with my neighbors we heard a lawn mower. sure enough he came around the back mowed right down the middle of his back yard, disappeared and then there was silence. He re-appeared with a putter and golf ball and proceeded to practice his putting where he had mowed one strip down the middle of his back yard. My neighbors and I could have used Deed Compliance back then

So in my view I like Deed Compliance and I want them to come down hard on violators or we are going to find some residents who will end up parking their cars on blocks in their driveways

LOL. I'm sure to you at the time it wasn't funny but I could just picture the guy mowing out his putting green and returning the mower to putt. I had to laugh.:1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 07-18-2015 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088583)
I don't feel any shame for bringing up the subject. I am not even sure its the developer or his contractor. BUT why are they using a lot for storage, for many months, as they build out other homes in the area? I doubt they are allowed to. If I were next door to the storage lot I might complain. It only slightly irks me as I drive by everday.

Shame on YOU for attempting to shame me. ;)

Too many are too quick to defend the almighty Oz. They did a great job but are not perfect. If it did not help their bottom line they would not be upgrading anything.

That reminds me of a song.:ho:

graciegirl 07-18-2015 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088583)
I don't feel any shame for bringing up the subject. I am not even sure its the developer or his contractor. BUT why are they using a lot for storage, for many months, as they build out other homes in the area? I doubt they are allowed to. If I were next door to the storage lot I might complain. It only slightly irks me as I drive by everday.

Shame on YOU for attempting to shame me. ;)

Too many are too quick to defend the almighty Oz. They did a great job but are not perfect. If it did not help their bottom line they would not be upgrading anything.





They didn't HAVE to. AND clearly, there wasn't much of a margin for profit, given what they paid for the properties and what they are selling them for.. So some of us suspect they did it out of pride in the community they built and also perhaps trying to help the property values of the people who live in the oldest section.


I would try to do that if I was a Morse.

And if I lived nearby, I would be patient and wait for the houses to be finished. Those Morses (snd their contractors) don't take very long.

Allegiance 07-18-2015 09:20 AM

Economics is economics. They look at the big picture. Even if they lost money on those historic rebuilds, it still helps their bottom line. Reputation and goodwill are part of picture. They dont want a slum in The Villages. No one said they have too. As a homeowner I should tow the line. I will never say anything bad about OZ again. After all my bottom line is my property value.


http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-c...d-Powerful.jpg

graciegirl 07-18-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088619)
Economics is economics. They look at the big picture. Even if they lost money on those historic rebuilds, it still helps their bottom line. Reputation and goodwill are part of picture. They dont want a slum in The Villages. No one said they have too. As a homeowner I should tow the line. I will never say anything bad about OZ again. After all my bottom line is my property value.


http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-c...d-Powerful.jpg



Here is the question. Would the folks who live there rather those selfish greedy capitalists improve the area,......or not?

Allegiance 07-18-2015 09:31 AM

That was not the question at ALL. The question was should the developer be allowed to use a lot for storage of material and vehicles.

TheVillageChicken 07-18-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1088627)
That was not the question at ALL. The question was should the developer be allowed to use a lot for storage of material and vehicles.

When you use the word, "allowed", it implies that there is someone from whom the developer would have to obtain permission. Who would that be?

Allegiance 07-18-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1088632)
When you use the word, "allowed", it implies that there is someone from whom the developer would have to obtain permission. Who would that be?

I was asking the question. Are you implying the developer can do what they want without permissions? This thread is about compliance to the rules. Do those rules apply to them? If a private developer stored material and vehicles on a lot for months, I ASSUME, the enforcement entities would be all over that.

Answering a question with a question or going off topic about how great the developer is does not answer my On Topic question. I concede and truly believe the developer is wonderful.

Villageswimmer 07-18-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1088551)
Since that is the way deed compliance is set up, then one needs to either be very careful to keep one's property up to standards or expect that someone will complain.


Perhaps this is a new experience for some to live in a deed restricted area, but what seems like an annoyance to folks new to it, will find that deed restrictions promote a well maintained community and protects the investment of all of the folks living in it.


It would be easier if we paid someone's salary to report infringements but it would also be an added expense.


I think the person who made thirty reports may have done all a favor. Non compliant people are not sure if it is a neighbor who complained or a stranger.


Perhaps instead of complaining against being turned in, just remedy what is non compliant?

Most residents are very satisfied with having deed restrictions and sooner or later ( when folks sell their property) those who don't like them may see the benefits.


Amen! Nuff said.


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