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Guest 07-30-2015 06:09 PM

More empathy for the death of a lion than for butchering unborn children!!!
 
I am going to assume there is an equal amount of rage in America over the slaughtering and butchering of unborn children as there is for the famous lion that was killed.

The real disparity of course is the coverage by the media.
They try to extract mouring from the listener for the death of a beloved lion.
They try to cover up the killing of unborn children by using terms most people have no idea what they mean. They play up the so called good that Planned Parenthood does while playing down the butchering and selling of the baby parts.

I am more ashamed evry day of that part of our society that thinks more about the videos than they do what the videos portray.

You know the same tactic here on this forum when the source of controversy in an article is attacked while ignoring the more important message.

Guest 07-30-2015 06:43 PM

I am more upset about the lion. The babies are killed by their mothers. I don't think Planned Parenthood is the problem, I think the problem is these women killing their unborn children.

There is a lack sex education in too many areas, a total breakdown in values and way too many women left holding the bag when the guy takes off.

These woman have nothing to do with the sale of body parts. If you all feel so strongly stop buying products that contain them.

Guest 07-30-2015 07:33 PM

That's the liberal mentality. Sickening

Guest 07-30-2015 11:15 PM

That's because a lion is alive and a fetus is not. Your choice to call it an unborn child is propaganda only. You think the bible treats fetuses the same as humans? How come the old testament penalty for a fetal loss was entirely different than a human loss? Because even 2500 years ago those primitive cultures understood it ain't a baby until it is born at which time it is entitled to the protections given humans. So God says so and that's good enough for me.

Guest 07-31-2015 04:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093541)
That's because a lion is alive and a fetus is not. Your choice to call it an unborn child is propaganda only. You think the bible treats fetuses the same as humans? How come the old testament penalty for a fetal loss was entirely different than a human loss? Because even 2500 years ago those primitive cultures understood it ain't a baby until it is born at which time it is entitled to the protections given humans. So God says so and that's good enough for me.

Dear Guest: You are privileged to make these comments because you had adults in your life that protected your right to life. Scientific evidence supports the fact that the unborn is alive and well into the first trimester.

If a woman doesn't want children she has a choice and methods to control conception. .

The topic at hand is the liberal press deflecting Planned Parenthood's breach of medical ethics by focusing on a dentist who killed a lion. This is a primary example of our continued march toward moral anarchy . it is also a deflection because it exposes the fact that the left never concerns it self with the rights of the unborn right up to and including birth . The left will claim the high ground by stating that the procedure is legal and benefits mankind but the facts are that the same scientific applications are being done without destroy a fetus. As to legal the courts should decide. It is clear that this is the same type of medical breach that was exercised in Nazi Germany

the left will then point to woman's right and woman's health and that anyone suggesting that funding for Planned parenthood be stopped is opposed to both. Well Senator Ernst ( R-Iowa) has drafted a bill that will divert funds from Planned Parenthood and redirect them to other health centers, hospital and organizations that provide non-abortion health care for all women. So much for not caring about women's health.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 07-31-2015 05:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093465)
I am going to assume there is an equal amount of rage in America over the slaughtering and butchering of unborn children as there is for the famous lion that was killed.

The real disparity of course is the coverage by the media.
They try to extract mouring from the listener for the death of a beloved lion.
They try to cover up the killing of unborn children by using terms most people have no idea what they mean. They play up the so called good that Planned Parenthood does while playing down the butchering and selling of the baby parts.

I am more ashamed evry day of that part of our society that thinks more about the videos than they do what the videos portray.

You know the same tactic here on this forum when the source of controversy in an article is attacked while ignoring the more important message.

So true. :agree:

Guest 07-31-2015 05:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093475)
I am more upset about the lion. The babies are killed by their mothers. I don't think Planned Parenthood is the problem, I think the problem is these women killing their unborn children.

There is a lack sex education in too many areas, a total breakdown in values and way too many women left holding the bag when the guy takes off.

These woman have nothing to do with the sale of body parts. If you all feel so strongly stop buying products that contain them.

Weird! I am surprised that you didn't also blame the lion for getting itself killed. Oh well, some folks have a warped way of seeing life.

Planned Parenthood has a legal right to provide abortions. We will see if it has a right to sell baby parts. Personally, I believe they should be cut off of all taxpayer funding since it is illegal for the gov to fund abortions. As far as providing baby parts, I am surprised that they aren't lynched for their abhorrent activity. Not only do I think congress should make it illegal, but I think that all residue of procedures should be treated as hazmat and destroyed. No one should profit from murder.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093541)
That's because a lion is alive and a fetus is not. Your choice to call it an unborn child is propaganda only. You think the bible treats fetuses the same as humans? How come the old testament penalty for a fetal loss was entirely different than a human loss? Because even 2500 years ago those primitive cultures understood it ain't a baby until it is born at which time it is entitled to the protections given humans. So God says so and that's good enough for me.

What god are you referring to? It doesn't say anything like that in my Bible to substantiate your comment. Your statement was proven wrong many years ago. But, the abortion issue is moot at this point since the liberals have won the abortion battle (for now). The issue is what to do with the unborn baby parts. And of course, the older the unborn baby is, the more valuable the body parts. Of course, it's funny how it is a "fetus" until they are selling "body" parts. Then they are human body parts.

Maybe we should set up a franchise at assisted living and make some money off of seniors when they pass. How about that, want to be sliced and diced after you are gone? If so, why not be a donor? I'm sure you will jump in here and state that you are a donor. I set you up for that one. Remember, that is your choice. It's not the choice of the unborn baby.

I think we should compare planned parenthood to the Nazis. It seems like a good comparison.

I feel for the lion also. But, even though I sometimes like animals more than I do humans, I do know the difference. The idea that the lion gets more media coverage and empathy than the million unborn children murdered per year, is astounding.

Guest 07-31-2015 07:29 AM

The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Guest 07-31-2015 08:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Perhaps you are right ~ Did you know that 22 week old fetus are surviving?

Twenty-two weeks is very young. Within abortion guidelines in many states.

"...The study, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday, looked at nearly 5,000 babies born before 27 weeks of gestation. It found that a significant number of babies who were born at 22 weeks, just over five months of gestation, survived after being medically treated in a hospital. Previously, 22 weeks was considered too early to resuscitate a baby because survival rates were so low..."


http://www.newsweek.com/babies-born-...y-finds-329518

Now what?

Guest 07-31-2015 08:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093631)
Perhaps you are right ~ Did you know that 22 week old fetus are surviving?

Twenty-two weeks is very young. Within abortion guidelines in many states.

Now what?

So, you and I agree that a fetus in the first trimester is not a child. That is the first 3 months of pregnancy. No chance of survival outside the mother until just over 5 months and then some might survive with months of extensive hospital care.

Guest 07-31-2015 08:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093651)
So, you and I agree that a fetus in the first trimester is not a child. That is the first 3 months of pregnancy. No chance of survival outside the mother until just over 5 months and then some might survive with months of extensive hospital care.

No, I don't agree with you. I said: Perhaps you are right.

As a reminder, the article (Perhaps you read it?) details how dramatically survival has changed. Perhaps survival will change again.

Guest 07-31-2015 10:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093655)
No, I don't agree with you. I said: Perhaps you are right.

As a reminder, the article (Perhaps you read it?) details how dramatically survival has changed. Perhaps survival will change again.

Thank you for the "perhaps"that I am right. Shows you are a reasonable person.

I would think that most abortions are done before the fifth month. After that would most likely be for health concerns for the mother or some very serious malady with the fetus.

It is entirely up to the mother to choose. It is not up to a bunch of men in a legislative setting to decide.

Guest 07-31-2015 11:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093541)
That's because a lion is alive and a fetus is not. Your choice to call it an unborn child is propaganda only. You think the bible treats fetuses the same as humans? How come the old testament penalty for a fetal loss was entirely different than a human loss? Because even 2500 years ago those primitive cultures understood it ain't a baby until it is born at which time it is entitled to the protections given humans. So God says so and that's good enough for me.

JMO, but I find this post to be the most grotesque, blasphemous post I have ever read. I'm hoping you wrote this for shock value only and it is not truly what you feel in your heart because it is so very ugly.

I would challenge you to work, HANDS ON, in an abortion clinic for a few months, then let us know what you think.

Guest 07-31-2015 11:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

"reactionary wingnuts" ??? How did I know you were a liberal? By your derisive name calling. No big deal, because I have no problems speaking to young folks. Sometimes I just have to dumb it down a bit....joking.

You believe that a fetus is not viable until it's born and survives. So, if a baby is born and dies an hour later, you do not consider it a child? Probably not, because that would ruin your argument.

You see, abortion is rarely done out of necessity. 99% or more are done out of convenience. Convenience is another word for laziness in this case. The mother does not wish to be strapped down by a child, or they don't wish to go through 9 months of diet and taking care of themselves as well as loosing some sleep, morning sickness, etc. Laziness.

Here's a question for you that is slightly off subject. I doubt you will answer it honestly, but if you give me the answer I predict, then you will have proven my point. If you had a sister that had a newborn and on the way home from the hospital, she was in an accident and died but the child survived, would you take care of it?

Guest 07-31-2015 11:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093651)
So, you and I agree that a fetus in the first trimester is not a child. That is the first 3 months of pregnancy. No chance of survival outside the mother until just over 5 months and then some might survive with months of extensive hospital care.

wrong again

Guest 07-31-2015 11:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093701)
Thank you for the "perhaps"that I am right. Shows you are a reasonable person.

I would think that most abortions are done before the fifth month. After that would most likely be for health concerns for the mother or some very serious malady with the fetus.

It is entirely up to the mother to choose. It is not up to a bunch of men in a legislative setting to decide.

Are you a sexist? You do know that there are women in congress? Even in most states congress. Yes, they do make laws. Do you have a better way to make laws? Wow, no offense but how old are you and where did you get your education?

Guest 07-31-2015 11:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Wow - that is either total ignorance or total denial!!

Taking it one step further, I love how liberals disparage religious folks beliefs as unscientific, but when science proves a point that is totally against their crazy ideology, they spit right in the face of it!

Guest 07-31-2015 11:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093745)
Wow - that is either total ignorance or total denial!!

Taking it one step further, I love how liberals disparage religious folks beliefs as unscientific, but when science proves a point that is totally against their crazy ideology, they spit right in the face of it!

:agree:

Guest 07-31-2015 12:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093738)
JMO, but I find this post to be the most grotesque, blasphemous post I have ever read. I'm hoping you wrote this for shock value only and it is not truly what you feel in your heart because it is so very ugly.

I would challenge you to work, HANDS ON, in an abortion clinic for a few months, then let us know what you think.

Key word "work." You know that won't go over well.

Guest 07-31-2015 12:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Here is how you think this through and please do this. Next time your daughter or daughter-in-law is pregnant, please go with her during her sonogram. Have the Dr show you the baby's heart, hands, feet, ***** (if its a boy). Etc and watch the heart beating. If you can then look at the picture and say. This is Not my grandchild, then consider yourself not human (no heart) along with the baby

Guest 07-31-2015 01:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Whatever helps you sleep better.:ohdear:

Guest 07-31-2015 01:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

So, I take it that you think the fetus is just a bunch of body parts waiting to be butchered and sold to the highest bidder - shipping and handling included of course:yuck:.

Guest 07-31-2015 01:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093779)
Here is how you think this through and please do this. Next time your daughter or daughter-in-law is pregnant, please go with her during her sonogram. Have the Dr show you the baby's heart, hands, feet, ***** (if its a boy). Etc and watch the heart beating. If you can then look at the picture and say. This is Not my grandchild, then consider yourself not human (no heart) along with the baby

He's too arrogant to admit it. You are speaking to deaf ears and blind eyes. Does that mean he is just a fetus and can be aborted postnadle? :a040:

Guest 07-31-2015 01:55 PM

This thread solidly prooves Some of the opposition here ONLY present partisan position.

Clinton is their candidate no matter how unethical or dishonest.
They are in support or denial on any opposition to the murdering of the unborn and are not against the butchering and sales.

The morals and ethics are not an issue they just salute and carry the party banner......NO MATTER WHAT!

Guest 07-31-2015 02:05 PM

Wow, 10 posts ALL from the same reactionary wingnut poster!

Now, that is funny! Pal, you got to get out and enjoy yoursel more rather than sit and bitch on the computer.

Guest 07-31-2015 04:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093815)
Wow, 10 posts ALL from the same reactionary wingnut poster!

Now, that is funny! Pal, you got to get out and enjoy yoursel more rather than sit and bitch on the computer.

How can you tell?

Guest 07-31-2015 04:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093870)
How can you tell?

Because he can't find a kindred soul so he figures that the other posts that oppose him have to be from one poster. Kind of arrogant of him, although he seems lonely.

Guest 07-31-2015 04:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093815)
Wow, 10 posts ALL from the same reactionary wingnut poster!

Now, that is funny! Pal, you got to get out and enjoy yoursel more rather than sit and bitch on the computer.

He/she didn't write my post. This is the Villages. There's plenty to do here, but we would rather sit here and help you earn your troll pay.

Tell me why you feel sorry for the lion but not for the sale of body parts taken from unborn babies?
While you are at it, explain why "Black Lives Matter" but there were more black babies aborted last year than born.
When you get done there, how about explaining why liberals complain about a couple thousand killed in war and yet there are about a million unborn babies killed every year due to abortion.
Why is it that you liberals don't want to finance Defense because they make war and kill people, but you want to finance an abortion mill franchise, Planned Parenthood.
But trolls don't explain or answer with anything but derogatory name calling.

Guest 07-31-2015 04:40 PM

There is no fight liberals would rather have in an election year than one involving Planned Parenthood. One in five women in the US have used PP, and over two million people a year (men, women, children) get some healthcare from PP every year. That is a lot of people.

Please, please, please keep up the fight against Planned Parenthood right up until election day. BTW: the president said today that he will veto any budget that defunds Planned Parenthood. Now we'll see if republicans are prepared to shut down the government again over this issue, because that worked out so well for them in the past.

Guest 07-31-2015 05:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093886)
There is no fight liberals would rather have in an election year than one involving Planned Parenthood. One in five women in the US have used PP, and over two million people a year (men, women, children) get some healthcare from PP every year. That is a lot of people.

Please, please, please keep up the fight against Planned Parenthood right up until election day. BTW: the president said today that he will veto any budget that defunds Planned Parenthood. Now we'll see if republicans are prepared to shut down the government again over this issue, because that worked out so well for them in the past.

I think you are in for a surprise. I don't think your emperor will be able to do a whole lot after that Democrat from OH gets done with PP. He is black and he is advocating that blacks demonstrate in front of PP with the theme "black lives matter" because there were more black aborted lives last year than black babies born. I am interested to see if he gets media coverage.

Guest 07-31-2015 05:39 PM

AND.....he is cosponsoring a bill to defund PP.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:27 PM

I saw his interview on FOX today.......for all those who will go after the FOX....you really need to stop and get it together for a minute and google this guy and listen to what he has to say.

And then please....PLEASE come back here and tell us what you think of this democrat's position on the matter.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093475)
I am more upset about the lion. The babies are killed by their mothers. I don't think Planned Parenthood is the problem, I think the problem is these women killing their unborn children.

There is a lack sex education in too many areas, a total breakdown in values and way too many women left holding the bag when the guy takes off.

These woman have nothing to do with the sale of body parts. If you all feel so strongly stop buying products that contain them.

The liberal "morality" plainly stated ... it's ok to kill babies. Unbelievable.

The only positive aspect is that most of the aborted babies would have otherwise grown up to be dependent Democrats.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093541)
That's because a lion is alive and a fetus is not. Your choice to call it an unborn child is propaganda only. You think the bible treats fetuses the same as humans? How come the old testament penalty for a fetal loss was entirely different than a human loss? Because even 2500 years ago those primitive cultures understood it ain't a baby until it is born at which time it is entitled to the protections given humans. So God says so and that's good enough for me.

Since when do Liberal Democrats believe in God?? Stop pretending for political argument sake please

Guest 07-31-2015 06:36 PM

I saved you some work just in case you could not find it:

Ohio State Representative Bill Patmon (D):

» Ohio State Rep: ‘Black Lives Matter’ Activists Should Protest Planned Parenthood Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Please let us know what you think about his position. Not all democrats live only by and for the (D) after their name

Guest 07-31-2015 06:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093610)
The fetus is not a child until it can survive outside the mother.

I am right - all you reactionary wingnuts are wrong.

Well, how then do you explain some of the botched PP abortions where the "fetus" came out "intact" ... ie the baby was born??

You can't.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093738)
JMO, but I find this post to be the most grotesque, blasphemous post I have ever read. I'm hoping you wrote this for shock value only and it is not truly what you feel in your heart because it is so very ugly.

I would challenge you to work, HANDS ON, in an abortion clinic for a few months, then let us know what you think.

Excellent point.

Actually, the PP topic is revealing ... that is, it really shows the sickening depravity of the liberal civic religion run amok. Time to start putting some of the PP people into jail for selling body parts and, in some case, infanticide.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093902)
I think you are in for a surprise. I don't think your emperor will be able to do a whole lot after that Democrat from OH gets done with PP. He is black and he is advocating that blacks demonstrate in front of PP with the theme "black lives matter" because there were more black aborted lives last year than black babies born. I am interested to see if he gets media coverage.

Interesting that the "Black Lives Matter" leadership is apparently too f'ing stupid to realize PP is conducting genocide upon the black race. More black babies die in one day due to PP than all the redneck lynchings since the Civil War.

Stupid .. .just plain stupid.

Guest 07-31-2015 06:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1093937)
Interesting that the "Black Lives Matter" leadership is apparently too f'ing stupid to realize PP is conducting genocide upon the black race. More black babies die in one day due to PP than all the redneck lynchings since the Civil War.

Stupid .. .just plain stupid.

Actually, in New York City in 2011 more blacks were aborted than born.

24,758 born

31,328 aborted

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...comes-2012.pdf


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