What would you have done ?
 

Yesterday, my wife & myself were sitting @ the bar at an unnamed country club.

Two men sat down a few cars away. One of the men was chewing on a non smoking cigar that had about 1" of tobacco left-the stench was horrible- As a cigar smoker I could never smoke any cigar that short.

I asked the bar person , to ask the gentleman to kindly get rid of that "stinker"

she did so- and he kinda got in my face & said."next time ask me your self"

I asked the bar person to avoid the confrontation-that I suspected would arise.

I sympathize with you avout this cigar stench. My dad was a lifelong cigar smoker and there is a big difference between smoking and chewing on the end. It is a terrible tobacco breath that won't go away. I guess I would have moved and if the server asked about the move I would have said why.

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

At my age its not smart to exchange compound fractures, can't run fast anymore& when I'm not drinking or seated @ prohibited area, I carry a firearm-

In that case, you should have just shot that nasty thing out of his mouth...but then that would have been noisy and wasting ammo.

It's exactly why I don't sit at the outside bars in the Villages. I do not like to smell the smoke.

This was @ an INSIDE bar & we hand our drinks in front of us !!!!, before the cigar chewer arrived

What would you have done if the Person had offensive body odor Or too much cologne?

My wife would insist I keep my mouth shut and that we move.

What would you have done ? since you asked.......................
I would have moved to another seat or went elsewhere.

When I was quite young I would have been more confrontational if I knew I would be running into this person again.

What I just wrote [the last sentence] doesn't really make sense. Why would kid be smoking a cigar? If it was an adult, I would not confront an adult. This is not my kind of thread and I would just change my response to /////////////////// but I have already been quoted. oh well,,,live and learn

I would have sucked it up up until I finished my drink and then left -- either to be seated at a table or to leave the establishment.

This thread stinks.

Not worth the confrontation.
 

This is the type of situation that could escalate into something physical. Is it really worth it? I would have responded differently as a younger man if he approached me withnhis comment after the server spoke to,him. Just glad he is not my mate, companion or friend.

I would have moved. Some things are worth the battle, some are not. This would be on my not list. Just not worth the confrontation.

And I sincerely hope you weren't carrying in the bar area of the restaurant, which is against the law. If you're going to carry a concealed weapon, know and obey the laws. It can save a lot of grief.

Is smoking was allowed at the inside bars of country clubs? Oh, never mind. You said he was just chewing on the end of the cigar.

This makes you no better than him.

OMG! Thanks!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Chatbrat,

I think you did the right thing in telling the waitress to intercede. I don't think she was wise in identifying you as the complainant. She could have said that unnamed "other patrons" had objected to the stench.

Wow!
 

sucker punch someone..yup...brave...then doing it for something they said...that's just a bit reactionary...there's also the fact that you'd go to jail for assault(no, they won't arrest him for a smelly cigar)and then have to pay his medical bills as well as being sued...yup...that's the correct response...

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What a worthless, ridiculous reason to start a confrontation. As said by another poster, if he had reeked of body oder or was passing gas, nothing would have said. My guess is there was some degree of satisfaction needed in seeing him remove the cigar. You carry a gun and initiated this, confrontation, interesting.

As far as carrying a concealed gun, I'm not buying that you review your daily itinerary each morning before leaving the house and based on your planned activities and venues then decide to carry or not.....PLEASE.......

I know the rules for ccw, you can carry a firearm into the area of a restaurant where alcohol is served. When I'm in that situation my firearm is locked in my vehicle. I carry it whenever I'm out of my residence.

Rules aren't for me!!
 

I believe there is no smoking inside any restaurant, even at the bar. If the bartender saw that this person had a cigar, she should have either nipped it in the bud herself right then and there or called for a manager to handle the situation. Patrons should not be put to in a situation like this where they have to feel uncomfortable. The rules are the rules with smoking, especially cigars, and someone with authority should have addressed this immediately without a patron asking them to do so.

I would ask for another place to sit. Waste of time to confront people today.

I don't think your approach was so off base. I find it amazing that when possibly being offensive people take the defensive. Did he really need to approach you semi agressively? I find smokers and some are friends can be touchy about being approached for smoking in public areas. I'm a former smoker and today I wish not to breathe the smell or smoke. Please smoke where it's not a shared experience and I'll keep my dog poop off your lawn. :icon_wink:

We only eat @ the bar, & there were no more seats available.

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I find it amazing how defensive dog owners get when taken to task on their dogs pooping in places other than their own yard or the dog parks. I find it offensive to see it and smell it in common public areas EVERY night at the town squares, the mail box areas and....yes my yard. According to dog owners these are the "few". But what are the odds that those few are at my mail area, my front yard and the town squares every time I'm there. Apparently we are all have the same schedules. When I stop sharing your dog poop in public areas, you can talk about not sharing someone's smoke.

The guy wasn't smoking.

I don't smoke or chew.

Yikes! Can you not see the humor in this post? It was a JOKE!!!! For crying out loud, LIGHTEN UP, people!!!! I laughed my butt off when I read it! What a great sense of humor...too bad for anyone who didn't enjoy it the way it was intended.

I wouldn't sucker punch someone for what they said. I would only sucker punch someone that was getting ready to hit me. That's just street self defense, not assault.

Actually, probably nothing. I more than likely would have gotten up and moved. Everybody wants to sue nowadays and with my background (LEO and 2nd degree Black Belt), I don't want to be questioned as to why I couldn't have avoided the confrontation. I back off from anything and everything unless my family is threatened.

Is there a reward for the lost butt?

It is a country club in a golfing community in the middle of summer. Men and women come in from playing golf in this heat reeking of sweat, body odor, stale perfume, cigarette and cigar smoke. I wouldn't have done a darned thing except continue to eat my lunch.

I think the OP did the right thing in asking the bar server to tell the man to get rid of his cigar chew. It is disgusting to see. I do wonder how much the "in your face" comment was, though. The cigar chewer was probably peeved and just asked why the OP could not have asked himself. Who cares? It is a nasty thing and the cigar chewer should have known it was going to bother someone but obviously either was not thinking or was a pig.

I, however, would like to find out WHY the OP feels it is necessary for him to carry a handgun whenever he leaves his house. Are you honestly so scared that something bad is going to happen to you in the area of The Villages? No, it is not like insurance coverage on a house or car. Those are mandated by the bank or by law.

How many times and under what circumstances have you had to draw your pistol since moving to The Villages?

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Please read before commenting. The man was not smoking he was chewing on a previously smoked cigar. Disgusting, but not a violation of the rules.

chewing is not smoking as to smell
 

A person that chews on the last of a cigar can have a horrible bad breath odor that goes beyond the smoking smell. I used to shop at a local market and the new clerk, an older gentleman would chew a cigar and it was so bad several customers quit shopping there. It went beyond the cigar aroma but just plain nasty breath so bad you could smell it as soon as you approached the checkout register.

By far the best answer.
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The reason I carry a firearm, is the same reason I use seat belts, In The Villages as senior citizens we represent vulnerable targets to the criminal community. We possess wealth & the lifestyle that most native Floridans will never achieve. In Florida by statistics almost 10% are legally allowed to carry a forearmed concealed on their person. Police are minutes away when seconds count.

:ho: It's an individual's right and obligation to ensure his own personal safety, and that's not paranoia, even in TV. If the elderly Villager woman who was brutally mugged in the Target parking lot had been armed, I believe the outcome of the situation would have been entirely different...3 against 1...

Are you saying that you would not buy insurance if you were not required to buy it?