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billethkid 08-21-2015 02:43 PM

DOW yesterday and Today
 
Looks like somebody will not be going on that second cruise this fall!

Fasten the seat belts we are IN some turbulence!

GooD thing most buildings Are one story.

dewilson58 08-21-2015 02:57 PM

Finally................all those experts predicting a correction for the last two years can say, "I told you."

Great time to buy.

Now let's move forward.

:thumbup:

justjim 08-21-2015 02:58 PM

Stock Market correction is over due according to many experts. Those that "short" the Market will do well and most long term investors will ride it out.

Boomer 08-21-2015 03:10 PM

"Whether we are talking about socks or stocks, I like to buy quality merchandise when it is marked down," said Warren Buffett.

NotGolfer 08-21-2015 05:46 PM

"Some" have said we're in for an economic implosion....bears watching anyway.

Topspinmo 08-21-2015 10:03 PM

So, nobody has been listen to Ron Paul? :shocked:The fed can only prop it for so long?

rubicon 08-22-2015 04:58 AM

Fed fed the market now what? Retirees liked 5% plus interest to balance out their portfolios. Now what? I worked with my advisor on Tuesday to rebalance my portfolio. Just going to hold tight.

Chi-Town 08-22-2015 07:09 AM

Last time we saw 5% was the beginning of 2007. My portfolio got rebalanced Thursday and Friday.

Topspinmo 08-22-2015 07:19 AM

The only ones making money is the advisers and firms the feed your money to. Check fee rate. They NEVER beat index market.:22yikes: at least not for your pocket. News flash the advisers are NOT looking out for your interest.

Greg Nelson 08-22-2015 07:48 AM

guess there will be no house buying in TV right now

outlaw 08-22-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1103067)
The only ones making money is the advisers and firms the feed your money to. Check fee rate. They NEVER beat index market.:22yikes: at least not for your pocket. News flash the advisers are NOT looking out for your interest.

I agree. Most financial advisers push unsuspecting retail investors into front loaded and high fee funds that, over the long haul, do no better and usually worse than a low fee, no load index fund. I analyzed a friend's portfolio for him, and showed him where is friendly financial adviser had him invested in 10 funds, half of which had front loads, all had high fees compared to Vanguard index funds (or any Vanguard funds for that matter). The real kicker was that he was also paying this adviser $6,000 per year for "account management".

Callaway Guy 08-22-2015 10:57 AM

I told my wife to hide all sharp objects for awhile. Our accounts took a re-adjustment also on Thursday and Friday. Boy, oboy.

luvmagic2 08-22-2015 12:25 PM

Although the market is down 10% from recent highs and down 5.7% over six months, it is unchanged over the past 12 months, up 41.1% over the past three years and up 84.4% over the past five years.....a quote from online USAToday

Callaway Guy 08-22-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvmagic2 (Post 1103192)
Although the market is down 10% from recent highs and down 5.7% over six months, it is unchanged over the past 12 months, up 41.1% over the past three years and up 84.4% over the past five years.....a quote from online USAToday

That makes me feel a little better. At least I'll peek my head out from under the covers now.

outlaw 08-22-2015 02:19 PM

I think it took 25 years for the market to recover after the 1929-32 stock market crash. I hope you all have the industry recommended allocations for retirement periods if you are funding your retirement with investments versus defined benefits pensions/SS. Just sayin'.

manaboutown 08-22-2015 09:13 PM

This belongs in the Investment Talk forum.

rjm1cc 08-22-2015 09:20 PM

Since we can not time the market I think our option is to have a cash reserve that will cover our needs for a couple of years so we do not have to sell stock for living expenses. In the long run if you have a share of stock worth $100 and it falls to $50 for a year or two and then goes up to $150 you are ahead of the game if you did not sell the share at $50.

rustyp 08-23-2015 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvmagic2 (Post 1103192)
Although the market is down 10% from recent highs and down 5.7% over six months, it is unchanged over the past 12 months, up 41.1% over the past three years and up 84.4% over the past five years.....a quote from online USAToday

And it is up a whopping 14% since the peak of 2007 - that's 8 years folks. Love how the brokers always measure from the low. How many of these Einstein's called you on Monday and advised you to get out. I want the names of those guys.

Biker Dog 08-23-2015 06:37 AM

Before you sign on with a "Broker/Adviser" as to see his/her personal portfolio..... They will never show you it.... But they will tell you all about their great trader... That is why I do all my own trading and if I screw up I have no one to blame but myself...

Boomer 08-23-2015 07:42 AM

Another quote from Warren Buffett:

"Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it."

Buffett also said, "Only when the tide goes out, do you discover who's been swimming naked." .................

My absolute favorite Buffett quote is, "Beware of geeks bearing formulas."

graciegirl 08-23-2015 07:51 AM

Boomer? Do people quote Democrats in The Villages?

Boomer 08-23-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer;1103***
Another quote from Warren Buffett:

"Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it."

Buffett also said, "Only when the tide goes out, do you discover who's been swimming naked." .................

My absolute favorite Buffett quote is, "Beware of geeks bearing formulas."



Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1103439)
Boomer? Do people quote Democrats in The Villages?


Aw, Gracie, I never really thought about needing to work on-script. Not my style. I just happen to like how that man can turn a phrase.......and buy a company.

graciegirl 08-23-2015 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103446)
Aw, Gracie, I never really thought about needing to work on-script. Not my style. i just happen to like how that man can turn a phrase.......and buy a company.



Donald????

buzzy 08-23-2015 08:13 AM

After a slump like this, the brokers and big money management firms typically recommend for the individual investor to buy on the dip. This brings new money into the market, temporarily propping up share prices, so the professionals can sell their shares with some recovery. This cycle repeats as the market falls, and shows up as an extended decline with intervals of saw-tooth spikes. So, buying on a dip is risky in an already overbought market.

Boomer 08-23-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer;1103***
Another quote from Warren Buffett:

"Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it."

Buffett also said, "Only when the tide goes out, do you discover who's been swimming naked." .................

My absolute favorite Buffett quote is, "Beware of geeks bearing formulas."


Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1103439)
Boomer? Do people quote Democrats in The Villages?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103446)
Aw, Gracie, I never really thought about needing to work on-script. Not my style. I just happen to like how that man can turn a phrase.......and buy a company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1103448)
Donald????


Now,now, Gracie, you know full well I meant Warren. You are just bein' your bad self this morning. But I gotta give you credit where it is due. That one-liner was quick and funny.

Peace out.

rustyp 08-23-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 1103449)
After a slump like this, the brokers and big money management firms typically recommend for the individual investor to buy on the dip. This brings new money into the market, temporarily propping up share prices, so the professionals can sell their shares with some recovery. This cycle repeats as the market falls, and shows up as an extended decline with intervals of saw-tooth spikes. So, buying on a dip is risky in an already overbought market.

I agree with you. The S&P PE ratio is around 24 today. The long term mean is around 16. Watch out below.

billethkid 08-23-2015 12:55 PM

Interesting article reviewing different types of investors outlooks:

Markets

rjm1cc 08-23-2015 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1103439)
Boomer? Do people quote Democrats in The Villages?

Yes it is permitted. You can add a quote from any Democrat to the discussion as we are not talking politics.

tcxr750 08-23-2015 09:37 PM

I'm getting discouraged. When I retired in 1999 I asked for a bond portfolio with 6% yield. The unanimous answer was "you want a diversified portfolio". Since then the fed raised rates, lowered rates, tech bubble, Great Recession,etc. If you live long enough your portfolio will match historical returns. PS. don't forget RMD's at 70 1/2 just to throw thing off track a little more.

dewilson58 08-24-2015 07:54 AM

Here we go again..........a sliding Monday.

outlaw 08-24-2015 08:56 AM

HOLY COW! Hang on for a wild ride.

Greg Nelson 08-24-2015 08:58 AM

lost enough for three TV visits..ugh

golfing eagles 08-24-2015 09:01 AM

just try logging on to Merrill Lynch website. Good luck

lanemb 08-24-2015 09:24 AM

TD Ameritrade is suffering login issues as well.

billethkid 08-24-2015 10:22 AM

Must be from so many trying to get in on the buy action!

dewilson58 08-24-2015 10:35 AM

Time to buy.

Ecuadog 08-24-2015 10:44 AM

Damn. There's no tall buildings that I can jump out of around here.

dewilson58 08-24-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 1103902)
Damn. There's no tall buildings that I can jump out of around here.

The windmill at Brownwood would only hurt yourself.

My Prediction........................The market will be more or less flat today.

:popcorn:

rexxfan 08-24-2015 12:49 PM

Its hard to be calm when everyone around you is in a panic, but that's my strategy. It is also helpful to have prepared a bit (with respect to cash on hand, food supplies, etc.), to be reasonably well diversified (perhaps with some physical assets as well) and to not have a lot of debt. Oh, and turn off the news for a week or two (and resist the temptation to check your account balances every hour on the hour).
--
bc

outlaw 08-24-2015 01:18 PM

Not to worry. I expect the DOW to bottom at around 5000. That's when I'll jump in.


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