Daily sun bias
 

I'm looking thru the paper this morning and I notice the story about the failed lawsuit against the developer. I think it's interesting that whenever there are crimes such as dui's, assaults, burglaries or thefts in stores mentioned in the paper it NEVER gives any names or addresses it just says a villager. This mornings article since it was a failed lawsuit against the developer not only does it give names they even put his picture in there.

It appears to me that the policy of the Sun was always to report the news but try not to embarrass or disturb the people who live in The Villages, which is different from the online news. By the way the online news is owned and run by the previous managing editor of the Sun.

I am glad that this issue is giving the details that one could expect from a newspaper.

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Pales in comparison to the bias of the national news media. besides, that's why this is "the bubble"

How Sad
 

How sad that some actually cheer for others to be hurt. I kind of recall when others did not like this treatment in some papers, (not Daily Sun) but cheer when others get it. You can't make this stuff up! It's the kind of world we now must be living in !:(

Seriously???? This really is no different than any other paper, the OPs post is off the mark. Most papers do not print the names or pictures of victims of crimes, at least not without specific permission unless their identity was obvious from a PUBLIC incident. This resident brought a PUBLIC civil case, there's no ill-treatment in reporting the outcome, win or lose.

I believe that the OP was referring to the naming of perpetrators of crime, not victims.

Off the mark?.....you made my point....this newspaper NEVER publishes names let alone pictures of villagers in these types of stories....then why choose to do so in this article???

If you were referring to the perpetrators, not victims, my apology. I agree.

There are those who will never see the propaganda machine the developer has created. The Daily Sun is an example. I do subscribe, but I recognize the obvious bias. If a huge sinkhole opened up in the middle of Brownwood, I wouldn't be surprised if it was not even mentioned in this paper, or if it was, would be described as a water feature paid for by the developer to enhance the villager experience.

I would guess that this news falls into a different category than drunk driving or shoplifting.


I certainly think that this news needs to be reported. There isn't anything about the article that I find incorrect or misleading. The Sun has always been pro developer and very conservative politically. It serves a largely conservative populace.


The Sun was conceived and owned by the Morses up until about four years ago when the business was sold to a person who I believe to be a friend of the developer, Phillip Markward, publisher.

It is widely known that the developer is a large contributor to the Republican Party as well.

I am NOT telling you to leave. I am NOT attacking you. I am just wondering why someone chooses to remain living in TV when he/she has such distaste for the propaganda machine.

Huge sinkholes have been photographed and written about in the Sun.


You have only been here about a year. No need to fuss, we now have the online news too.

Are you talking about the online news that does name names and shows pictures?


We all read it, don't we? Maybe the drunk driving photograph's MIGHT make some social drinkers think a time or two before getting behind the wheel.


Some pictures do make us cringe. We react to crime in many ways. Most of us Villagers will not get our names and pictures in the news under crime, Thank Heavens.

Perhaps because he likes living here. The quality of the newspaper is pretty low on my list of what's important. For example, should someone not use the internet because of msn.com (a propaganda machine for the left)?

Reply
 

Newspapers have bias. When I lived in the north, I knew which paper to buy to get this or that viewpoint. It's not a surprise or something new. We are well aware of the Daily Sun and it's conservative happiness and other bent. T here are other papers readily available with different viewpoints and the daily doom and gloom report. Life is what it is. We choose what to focus on moment by moment including you.

I appreciate your answering for someone else. Would still like to hear his answer. I could care less about the paper. I believe the poster I responded to has great disdain for the paper and the developer. That was why I posed the question to him.

Your question was actually rhetorical.

you are treating the sun as a newspaper, it is a daily sales tool for the developer and a way for residents to get event dates and coupons....nothing more.

By reading both Fox News and CNN, one can see many different views on things. Is it the truth many times depends upon your perspective. I read that other online local Village news site which can't be mentioned here for a different view on things. I enjoy reading both!

In the Villages Daily Sun a lot of the serious cases involving various crimes in the Villages show the picture of the person accused and sometimes the address. Often they will just print the Village the defendant lives in and not the address.

Murders/attempted murders and suicides do often show the address or at least the Village.

All newspapers have some bias. I try to look at a large variety if I am interested in getting a better picture of the facts of some matter.

I would like to pose a simple question concerning the Daily Sun. We all know that the POA has in fact taken on some issues that were settled in the favor of the Residents. Has any reader of the Daily Sun "EVER" read anything in the Daily Sun that complimented a positive effort of the POA.

I think the Daily Sun is a very comprehensive reporter of news of any kind and in every area home and abroad, far superior to the daily paper in our former area which was so bad we did not buy it.

The Daily Sun is what it is. I read it everyday I'm in TV and enjoy it. Like many others I also read other newspapers mostly on-line. "I am a man of fixed and unbending principles, the first is to be flexible at all times". Anonymous

Is there no limit to the lies
 

It is critical to recognize the absolute lies being printed as opposed to the "TRUTH. In the Daily Sun today it was reported that 6 members of the POA and the attorney's received $7M dollars from the $40M awarded in the last Lawsuit where the Developer got caught with his hands in the Cooker Jar.
How many read that lie and believed that 6 were equal partners in the $7M awarded by the courts ? I will bet a lot actually believed that and that is the way Tutt and the Daily Sun wanted you to believe it. Well the truth the Courts awarded $7M to the Attorneys and ZERO to the 6 who devoted their time and personal funds so the Historical Section could have a good Paradise Rec Center and the assurance the Developer would have to maintain additional Villages property by ordering $40M penalty. The attorney's split $6.7M among themselves and provided $300K to the 6 ($50K per) in order to repay some of the monies they personally invested to help the Historical District, et al and to help pay for some of their time spent on the problem(s). That was at the discretion of the Attorney's with no expectation by the 6!
NOW DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE 6 WERE PART OF A $7m SPLIT LIKE THE DAILY SUN AND TUTT WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE. IT IS OUTRAGES AND DISHONEST TO USE ANY METHOD POSSIBLE NOT EVEN SHORT OF A LIE TO TRY TO DESTROY THE POA. IT IS DISGUSTING. TO ADD TO THIS THEY WENT ON TO SAY THE POA WAS AFTER MONEY IN THE LATEST LAWSUIT. TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND SEE ANYWHERE THE POA WAS TO BE PAID ANYTHING.. JUST PLAIN LIES. :rant-rave:

Names and addresses
 

I am curious why you need to know the address of a village criminal? Wouldn't the name and village be enough? I do agree that a picture and name would be helpful.

Better yet, why pay for a newspaper that you think is biased. It's kind of like liberals watching fox news

I get all my news from the National Enquirer. Where else will you hear that Dr Phil is getting divorced and Hillary has brain cancer?

Or Donald Trump has no brain at all, just a mouth...

Yes, but as a world class neurosurgeon, Ben Carson can surgically replace his brain

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Here is what the Orlando Sentinel said about it in March of 2007.
You will see who was paid what.
Villages developer to pay $40 million for recreation upgrades to settle a lawsuit - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel

As far as I can perceive the developer didn't have his hands in any cookie jar. Everything was well maintained as far as I could see. And continues to be.

It could be that the amenities are now well maintained because of the success of the lawsuit. The mold cited in the article doesn't sound like particularly good maintenance to me.

Just accept that it is biased. They run a column on climate change and then publish an AP article two pages later that scientifically refutes their position. Their sports department writes with a big ten bias and they think they live in Ohio or Michigan. Gotta love it Can't beat the price for the coupons and TV happenings however so get your news from real sources.

Supporters of the POA keep rewriting history to fit their current narrative. The settlement included a payment to the named defendants in the suit. There was no “good will of the attorneys” to share some of the award. I have copied the section of the lawsuit settlement notice detailing the payments. This information was obtained from the POA’s own website!

“Attorney’s Fees and Incentive Award – VLS shall also pay to the plaintiff class $6,700,000 for attorney’s fees, $300,000 for incentive awards to the plaintiff’s Class Representatives, and $6,000 to Anderson & Anderson, P.A. for cost reimbursement.” (emphasis added)

Now that we have the correct facts about payment of the original lawsuit, let’s talk about the most recent lawsuit. Here is the disservice the POA has done to the residents of The Villages and the POA members.

1. As stated in the article in the DS, The Villages could not refinance the bonds while the class action lawsuit was pending. This has now required The Villages to pay a higher interest rate on the bonds.
2. The Villages is eating over $300,000 in legal fees expended to fight the latest lawsuit. We, the residents, are not getting this back.
3. The POA funded the current lawsuit. This means the dues of the members paid $40,000 to The Villages as part of the settlement. What we have not seen, and no one associated with the POA will answer is how much more they paid in legal fees to their attorneys.

If I was a POA member, and I am not, I would be demanding to know a full accounting of how much this lawsuit cost. This is what you want your POA dues going towards?

Gracie, don't cornfuse them with the facts. If the Sun is printing lies, make them retract them, if not, quit yer bitchin.

Here We Go Again
 

This forum will never have an objective conversation about The villages, the Daily sun, the POA or the VHA or anything remotely connected to the aforementioned because its the Hatfield and McCoy mentality again

The rationale is simply a marketing concept. If TVLSI marketing convinced you as a customer that buying into this community was buying value then you will in turn market TVLSI brand and remain a loyal consumer. If marketing did not and somewhere along the way you as a resident felt that you received less then you expected then you won't market the TVLSI brand. When two people operate on different philosophical levels they will just never agree.

So here we are again with "Is so"Ïs not" Ïs so""Is not"..............

Personal Best Regards

There are a lot of folks who believe in the dogma of Poapal Infallibility.

And there are folks that when presented with the facts will insist ad nauseum, that two plus two equals three.

1. As shown in prior notes: The 6 who put up their own money in order to win the $40M for the residents and make the Developer live up to his promises only received $50K per and anything else is a lie. Including the statement by Tutt and printed in the Daily Sun. The $6.7M went to the Attorneys. Of course there was no mention of their putting up some of their own money to help the residents in the historical district and portions of the $50K were paybacks for their personal investments.
2. The latest suit would not have provided any money to the ones who backed it to help the residents. Anything else said was a lie.
It's good to remember: The truth only hurts for awhile but a lie lasts forever.:confused:

Including esteemed mathematicians working in the field of subadditivity.