Obama gets in the face of the camera, AGAIN, about the shooting in Oregon
 

and as usual he had absolutely nothing of any substance to say (SOP) except push on the gun issue....AGAIN.

It is a good thing the networks suck up to the office which he certainly has no idea about at all. All talk waste of time in chief!!!

Every shooter is always on prescription medication! Remember Cain killed Able with a rock! Guns do not kill - people kill!

Did we get the shooters name yet??

it is taking a very long time to release the shooter's identity. this makes me jump to dark thoughts of terrorism links. i guess we shall find out eventually.

Good folk tale told in every culture.

However, to reality, would a person armed with rock have been able to kill 10 college students? No. Would he have been able to do that with a knife? No.

However, now we will have right wing fools say that students SHOULD ALL be armed at college levels so they can protect themselves.

IN THE WORDS OF COL. SHERMAN T. POTTER - HORSE HOCKEY!

Have former detectives armed on college campuses. End of story. If Christian, the student was shot in head. If not, shot in leg. Hmmm wonder what God this guy followed

Mental health care is the answer, not gun laws.

This is all time low for president again. We didn't even know names of victims and he's politically blaming NRA. He is a disgrace. He didn't say a word about the 49 shot in Chicago last weekend.

Every country the world order goes into they remove the guns of the people very early in the game. It is not so easy with America! In the Bible Jesus says if you do not have a sword sell your cloak and get one.

I absolutely agree with this.

I am a gun owner. I own both long gun and hand guns.

WE NEED STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS NOW.

I am not a gun owner.

Just inserting this into the conversation and hope to hear comments.

From what I understand, the state of Oregon has all the components that gun control advocates call for.

My second comment is hearing ex police officers talk about their careers and the lack of guns involved in crimes they were involved in that were legally purchased, which means gun control laws would not have any impact.

I hear no conversation or very little about the mental health of our country.

Just adding to the conversation because I do not think it is as black and white or simple as stricter gun control. Chicago has some of the strictest laws in the country.

I might add and this is from my gut with no investigation, but seems to me we have so many "rights" about privacy that processing anything, including an employment application is hairy now.

And secondly, nobody talks about all the hate speak that is spewed all over this wonderful internet. Just check out that TOPIX site if you want to read unvarnished hate.

Lastly, I suggest that we have lost all regard and respect for two things that are slowly destroying us. Family and the Law. We seem to put ourselves ahead of any law and distort the family in so many ways.

We are now hearing he's black with ties to Islam. Omg what a shock!!

Hearing Christians shot in head and non Christians in leg. Gun laws or no gun laws with borders wide open the Muslims continue entering. So glad I'm a senior now and will be checking out soon so I don't have to witness what is coming. Kids today too busy playing on their phones in their self absorbed world to even know. We are a country destroying from within and you can look toward the lacl of Leadership to thank, Hollywood, the libs, the destruction of the family, and the just plain stupid

Exactly what "strict gun control laws" do you want to improve on? Because we have strict gun control laws. Almost ALL gun related incidents are related to illegally obtained guns, by perpetrators that would not normally be able to purchase a gun legally. What more do you wish?

Do you want better knife control laws? How about making sure all the little league kids register their bats?

We have a mental control issue, not weapon control. I learned gun control in the Marines. Sight alignment, controlled breathing, gently squeeze the trigger. Gun control.

The constitution protects these kids so that they can watch violent TV and movies, play violent video games where they KILL others, and explicit sex. When you get rid of morals, you leave a vacuum for deviant behavior. Better get used to it, because if it ain't guns, then it will be bombs, knives, bats, axes, steel pipes, cars, etc. Can't get rid of the deviant mentality, so why attempt to get rid of the one defensive device that we have to protect ourselves? We can't carry a Cop around with us 24 hrs a day, and a security guard is very expensive. A good person with a legally purchased gun may be the one person that will save your life, and yet you won't even know he has it all these years until you find yourself in a dangerous situation.

If you want to get rid of violent behavior, you would be better off attempting to cull the deviant DNA gene in newborns. Yes, I am being facetious.

Besides, why do folks worry about a couple dozen school kids, when Planned Parenthood is murdering more black kids in one year than the amount born? More children are killed by abortion than are killed by guns. More children are killed by drugs than by guns. Actually, more people are killed by doctors than by guns.

Most of this was NOT in response to your comment, just throwing in my two cents.

Would he be able to do that with an automobile? Yes.

I will repeat what I just posted in the regular section of TOTV.

It is not just the guns!!! It is gun avaialability in a very permissive, anything goes and is allowed society with little or no enforcement or involvement.

The continuous exposure to violence in our society becomes allowable at an eralier and earlier age every year. The movies, television, 24/7 medias all promote and exploit violence and promote in your face and thug like behavior. Add in the catalysts of drug availability and not enforcing existing laws all contribute to what our society has bred and become.

The guns have been around since our beginnings. The rampant violence is a funtion of our so called modern day society that refuses to risk hurting someones feelings no matter what they do.

It is not just the guns. Our society promotes and thrives on violence without enforcement.

More Obama acting and wasting time:

NationalJournal

And of course the usual me and I Obama self promoting:

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=38185&from=allstories

Words. Words and more words.

Actions? None!

Added value? The usual, none!

= the usual waste of time.

80% of gun related deaths are gang related.

80% of those deaths are drug related, but liberals want to legalize drugs and ban guns. Go figure.

It's fact that there are more gun related deaths in cities like D.C. with the strictest gun control laws than all of the rest of the country combined.

6,000 shootings in Chicago since 2012 where there are strict gun laws and Not a word from Obama about it.??? Doesn't fit the agenda, the black on black crime??

BUT, he did not use a car. He used a GUN!

Do not try the "what if..." game. Use the reality situation.

OK a dose of reality:

High gun crimes in Washington DC, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

High black involvement in gun crimes in in Washington, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

Strictest gun laws in Washington, CHicago and New York.

The strict gun control laws have no effect on gun availability or gun incident frequencies.

Any wonder why these data are not used in speeches?

Another interesting but never spoken of statistic:
There are twice as many gun related deaths perpetrated by blacks than whites. Does gun control mean we stop selling guns to blacks? No, because most of those gun related deaths were utilizing illegally obtained guns.

The point was, if someone wants to kill another person, they will...using any means available (e.g automobile, pressure-cooker bomb, etc.). I guess you missed the point, not surprising, really, when you olny see the world from an anti-gun ownership viewpoint.

The UK has very strict gun control laws. But, they have more crime by knives than we do gun crimes per capita. Basically, by percent the UK has twice as many knife crimes as the U.S. has gun crimes.

Guns and knives don't kill people, people kill people. Ban the people and keep the guns and you will have no deaths by guns. Keep the people and ban the guns, and you will still have murders/crime. It's a no brainer.

Take away the perpetrator, did the gun commit the murders?

I've been keeping a close eye on my guns and not one of them have committed a crime since I have had them. The moment one of them goes out and commits a crime, being a law abiding citizen, I plan to turn it in to be prosecuted.

From the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC 24/7: Saving Lives, Protecting People.

"Every day, almost 30 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. This amounts to one death every 51 minutes. The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $59 billion."

Where is the liberal outrage? I guess it doesn't fit your political agenda. Have another beer.:beer3:

Hmmm, which one should we ban, the car or the alcohol?

Dear guests:

The most telling aspect of this tragedy was that the perpetrator's blog that he wanted national attention. Duh? so what do the news outlet do provided 24/7 coverage and will be featuring this incident for political purposes until the ad nauseam. Kudos to the Police Chief for refusing to give the perp any chance of press

Obama did his due diligence and dispatch and it showed again. the victims were white the perp black. the cause radicalism His address was so practiced it sounded like a kid learning how to read ....See spot. see spot run. since the issue was radicalism Valerie Jarett called him and told him to make political hay and blame it on guns just as she told him to blame Benghazi on a video

I'll bet the parents of that young woman killed by the illegal in Calif are still waiting by the phone for a call from Obama

Progressives appear to be reactionaries given their responses of gun control, climate change and protection of lions. Wonder why they do not show more concerned for the unborn?

Clearly guns are not the issue but progressives don't like to be confused by the facts

Blame misguided security policies by this Admin. blame misguided mental health laws that prevent a mental ill person the benefit of a support system such as that of his/her family. Blame hypocrites in Hollywood who admonish acts such as this but continue to produce violent and vile movies clamourizing gangsters, drugs, sex and murders and even serial killers.

I am so fed up with progressives and their illogical mutterings and over kill remedies.

Personal Best Regards:

I guess the bigger question is, which would you ban?

If this shooter in oregon made his choices to kill, shoot in the head, based on whether or not the killed were "Christian" why is this not called a terror attack?

I think I would ban the liberals and keep both the cars and the alcohol. No liberals, very little crime. The rest of the U.S. is too busy working for a living, to get into trouble. No time to think of ideas for getting into trouble if you are working. Liberals gone, problem gone. Conservatives see a crime, they take care of it immediately, not via psychological counseling and probation. We don't make excuses for the criminal. We kill them. Problem solved. Cost=less than a buck for a bullet. Instead of the family suing the state because of their scumbag thug relative, make them pay for the cost of any overtime, mortuary services, funeral and burial. No one should be able to make money off of a thug relative.

The question is - have you EVER committed a crime with your guns? Maybe something as minor as walking into bar area of a restaurant while carrying? Since there is no way of tracking who you are - you can be honest with your answer.

Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Another typical liberal response. Are you sure that you aren't Obama? If not a bad deal, then war? Naw, all liberals are of like mind.

Nope, never walked into a bar with my gun. How about you? Have you ever smoked marijuana? Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Have you ever driven through a stop sign without stopping first? Give it a break, no one is buying it. Liberals are the problem, not guns.

Nope, attacking from behind is a liberal thing.

Unlike you and your messiah in the White House, I don't believe that it's an either choice, a bad deal or a war.

It's legal to carry concealed into a restaurant that has a bar in it, if the primary purpose of the restaurant is to sell food, not alcohol. The law states that you cannot enter an establishment that has the primary function of selling alcohol.

As a matter of fact, if you fear my being a concealed carry citizen, then wear a shirt with the word Liberal on it and if you run into any trouble on the street where I happen to be, I'll make sure to stay out of the way and not interfere. I'll let you counsel with the dirtbag, and go about my personal business. There is no law requiring me to assist you. Hopefully, a cop or medic will be there before you bleed out from your misunderstanding.