The Curse Of George W. Bush
 

Isn't it amazing how ALL the Replican candidates have steered clear of having George W. speak for them?

It seems as though any connection with W. is poison and he (and Cheney) are not on the campaign trails for any Republican.

Not a very good endorsement for his administration, is it?

My quick thought in reading this is that we are in a very different time, with very different problems than when he was the President. Do you have some kind of specific information to support your post, that candidates are purposefully steering clear of him, or is this all just supposition on your part?

Don't understand the relevance of your post. I think the problems that have been created by this administration are polar opposite to what was going on 8+ years ago and it seems to me that the strength of the candidates running on the Republican side don't need former Presidents to back them up.

Oh, you mean like the Democrats did with Obama during the mid-term elections.

As a matter of fact, many Democrat candidates vacated the area when he(Obama) arrived in town. They didn't want to be associated with him. And apparently hiding didn't do them any better. They still lost congress.

Tell me when in history an ex President campaigned for anyone during a PRIMARY ?

As long as there are morons that believe everything was and still is Bushes fault the democrats will will spew it as long as their indoctnated liberal stoopid sheep swallow their BS. Do you really think after 7 years and 9 years of Control of the house and senate its still bushes fault?

We must have missed it; where is it that Bill Clinton or or Jimmy Carter is being used in prominance or at all. As in during the debates Bill was not allowed any where near the reporters or the audience or within sight of the place.
Now I wonder how that fits your knee jerk commentary?

He's just a liberal troll, looking for some attention. Don't respond to him and he will go away.

The only "CURSE" is for Obama to try to live up to Bush's image, which he can't. The girly boy is no man and Putin treats him like his bit... Bush kept America safe and other countries respected or feared us. Bush didn't "lead from behind" because he was a man and leader. Bush had to deal with his last two years of total democrat controlled congress, We've seen how a totally democrat dominated congress does, by how they blocked everything in the first two years of Obama, other than what they wanted passed.

Yep, Obama's curse is not just Bush, but trying to live up to ANY previous presidential reputation. Obama is a laughing stock of the world and no one respects him. He's a little tin emperor that gets his way because of his color, period. And fact does not make that racist. NO other president would get away with what this president has gotten away with.

Oh, I remember the "Good Old Days" when W was President.

The image caste by the Great Recession is one that every president wants as a shining example of his accomplishments during his presidency. Going into the Iraq war under false pretenses is another example of a job well done. Do you think that maybe just maybe the current Republicans hopefuls are staying away from him. The one that cant is Jeb, and how is he doing?

Your last paragraph is total Republican nonsense that isn't backup with facts only hate.

Amazing isn't it, when McConnell filibusters just about everything, this isn't consider as being obstructive. Republicans do drive down a lovely one way street.

You don't know what you are talking about. If you knew what caused the so-called great recession, you would know that Bush had nothing to do with it. And remember, you had two years of Democrat controlled congress at the end of Bush's administration. Bush and other presidents also had their recessions, but each one of the rebounded in a tenth the time it is taking this president. He ran on having all the answers. Fact is that he let his mouth write checks that bounced, because he didn't have the brains or the ambition to fix things. His purpose was to destroy, not fix. If you can't see that, then you are blind. And now, the Dems want to do exactly the same thing that got us into this mess, all over again, before we even climb out of this ditch. Frank-Dodd my as.....!!

The only hate that I have is for stupid. And this country is getting more and more stupid as the we allow the youth to speak out. WE fought socialism in the battle fields and you ALL embrace it, like it is something new and innovative. What a bunch of stupid losers! Yep, I hate stupid and anyone trying to destroy my country.

I'd take a dozen Bushs over this idiot currently in the White House. We can't be rid of him fast enough.

You do know, for a fact, if it was allowed by law - Pesident Obama WOULD be re-elected to a third term.

No Republican candidate could beat him.

No Republican candidate will be able to beat whichever Democrat is the nominee.

Since you stated that it was a fact, please provide a credible source for your delusion.

Just good old common sense, my friend.

About a minute behind the trail blazing democrats.:clap2:

So, it's not a fact after all? Just another delusion...I mean opinion.

And you know what they say about opinions, right? And it's hard to tell his opinion from his a....

Unlike all of the former Dem Presidents it has long been the policy of the former " R " Presidents to NEVER comment on policy or the performance of the current President .
You can trace this practice as far back as President Eisenhower .
However every single Dem Ex President since JFK has been an active commentator on the performance of the Incumbent President regardless of the Party of the Incumbent .
Further every single former "R" President has taken the approach that they should stay out of Political issues and rarely if ever have backed any candidate for any office .
[ Just like Baseball --- you can look it up ]

Ah, The Tea Bag Party has spoken - in a most eloquent way, as usual, for them.

Is there no end to the BS

I don't know what I am talking about. No, Bush and the Republican party don't wash there hands clean on the 2007/20088 recession. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes...reat_Recession

What party is the party that is interested in deregulating everything. Dodd/Frank was put into law to stop the excess of banks, leading institutions. What party opposed going so far as not to approved Elisabeth Warren as administrator of the oversight branch of government to try not to repeat the recession?

You want to look at a real biased view of the great recession read this. "The Bush Recession" -- Let's Call it What It Is | Steve Rosenbaum

Your first paragraph is really short on facts. In fact, it twists just about everything.

The author, Steve Rosenbaum, has been taking Bush to task pretty much for many years.

Your link is 6 1/2 years old, and certainly has some truths, but for example, when he refers to mortgages given during the Bush presidency, he totally and completely ignores and does not mention the Community Reinvestment act.

That act, backed and endorsed by the Clinton admin made the mortgages explode. Example, in Clinton years mortgages rose in the 50/60 percent range; in the Bush years it was about 1 percent.

Posting a link that old, you might as well gather all the articles Mr Rosenbaum has penned, going back even further and guess what...in each he goes after Bush and leaves out convenient facts such as I pointed out.

I think an analysis that old, with just selected facts is hardly something to post anywhere.

Only someone who is not well read would post such a link and the entire thread is bogus.

The financial crisis that President Obama did in fact walk into was the fault of a number of people as most are, and while we have much to learn from that crisis, we should be more inclined to address our current economics, and using lessons learned from anything in the past.

A link that goes back SIX AND HALF YEARS and avoids and hides facts in play are not exactly the best to rely on unless your intent is purely to make some vague political point.

I think one of the best analysis of that financial crisis was done by Newsweek and it named the 25 folks most to blame.

Yes, George Bush is on the list for sure and I am sure that makes some of you folks who disregard facts very happy.

Here is the link to that listing of people

Bill Clinton - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME

It will be boring for all of you who want to lay this on some President...the only two mentioned and rightfully so are Clinton and Bush, but so many forget to add Clinton to the list and boy he sure deserves to be on the list.

I find this thread completely bogus and if someone wants to discuss 2008 and back all over again, they should start a thread. There are lots of analysis available that are non political thus you probably wont care.

From that Newsweek article, comes this and this was written in 2009.

It is NOT intended to defend Bush nor malign anyone else, but since the thread is about Bush, it seems applicable....

"George Bush is leaving the White House with a dismal economic record. By almost every measure — GDP growth, jobs, median incomes, financial-market performance — he stacks up as probably the least-successful President on the economic front since Herbert Hoover.

It's not all Bush's fault. He inherited an inevitable recession in 2001, and even last year's financial collapse was to some extent the result of unsustainable trends in place long before he moved to Washington. Also, we generally give Presidents both more credit and more blame for economic outcomes than they probably deserve. As Bush mock-moaned in his final White House press conference, "Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch?"

His next words, though, were, "It's just pathetic, isn't it, self-pity?" So let's spare him the pity. As the decider in the White House for the past eight years, George Bush made some economic calls that don't look smart today.

They then went on to list 8 specific error that he made.

Point is NO FINANCIAL CRISIS IS MADE BY ONE PERSON. Nobody recalls how Bush wanted tighter controls on Wall St to prevent the bubble and he was totally rebuffed by a Democratic congress. How he was mocked when he warned everyone about Fannie Mae, etc

None of this absolves his part and every President makes mistakes (although from reading it appears the current President has made none), but why waste a thread trying to pin something on a man that you cannot possibly do.

I posted two links. The first was Wikipedia. The second was the biased one.
Maybe just maybe you should read the first sentence in that post. Here it is, "If you want to read a real biased article, read this." Then then link.

Only a person that has to start every post attacking someone would completely ignore that sentence. Are you looking to win a prize for the most obnoxious person on the board? Keep it up. You have a lot of Republican competition.

Concerning placing blame of a recession or giving credit for getting a country out of recession, read this. Can A President Really Fix A Bad Economy? : NPR

Maybe the blame game should stop. Fat chance.

1. Of course, how foolish of me. ONLY Republicans are obnoxious.

2. WIKI link aside, not sure the relevance of the SIX and half year old link and not sure what your point was if you knew it was bias. Certainly an intelligent discussion of the Bush years, which was the thread title would not include something that old.

So, sorry for being obnoxious and wanting to use facts and not be biased.

I will allow you to continue on your way...make your point and blame whomever you want sans facts.

I offered a few ideas for intelligent discussion on the cause of the recession. I certainly apologize for that and can see how you would find that...what was the word...OBNOXIOUS

It should stop but sadly it wont !!!

That was the point I made in my two posts that were found to be obnoxious.

When was the last time you saw "dumbo" our current potus in Church on Sunday, or
Visiting Vets in the hospital?

When he needed to suck for votes. He doesn't need anybody or anything anymore that does not fit his agenda.

A little ove a year to go to get rid of him.

Maybe he's just a class guy, not a hotdog like Bill Clinton

As far as I can tell only two Republican candidates have mentioned W....... Trump ripping him and Jeb defending him.

The President
 

These people calling our President childish names is disgusting and I automatically stop reading the rest of the post. Your ignorance of the subject is shown when you spew such un-American views. Moreover the facts are that your next President will be a Democrat again, so please learn to deal with that.

Bush has kept America safe?! What do you call the attack on the World Trade Center? There were 3000 people who wouldn't agree with you.

Oh, when "W" was president, I was still working, got plenty of overtime, made 13 to $15. more an hr. than the people that worked doing the same exact job that I did & everything was cheaper than it is now. The one we have now told us "I'm in Charge Now".