Clinton buying votes….again….no….yet!
 

Is there any other eason she would be aiming her campaign at a subject like this with all the other hot potatoe issues in the USA?

NO!

Hillary Clinton calls for raising minimum wage to $12 an hour - MarketWatch

She is the eviler half of the Clinton duo. She is political scum at it's worst.

And that is being polite about the phony, lying, unethical, dishonest :censored: she really is!

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Maybe to give minimum wage earners a chance at a living wage and to let them know she is on their side instead of ignoring living wages like Republicans

By the way, your Republican poster child for brains (Dan Quale) spelled "potato" the same as you.

And who said anybody owed a minimum wage person a "living" wage. Minimum wage jobs are just that...minimum wage....no surprise going in. The current view of some that all jobs are to be "living" wage jobs is totaly and completely partisan, buying the vote BS!

1. Raising the minimum wage will have little or no effect on poverty.

2. It will reduce the employment and have a harmful effect on those it is intended to help.

3. Hauling out Dan Quayle to make fun of is dripping with desperation.

"While the aim is to help workers, decades of economic research show that
minimum wages usually end up harming workers and the broader economy. Minimum wages particularly stifle job opportunities for low-skill
workers, youth, and minorities, which are the groups that policymakers are often trying to help with these policies. There is no “free lunch” when the government mandates a minimum wage. If the government requires that certain workers be paid higher wages, then businesses make adjustments to pay for the added costs, such as reducing hiring, cutting employee work hours, reducing benefits, and charging higher prices. Some policymakers may believe that companies simply absorb the costs of minimum wage increases through reduced profits, but that’s rarely the case. Instead, businesses rationally respond to such mandates by cutting employment
and making other decisions to maintain their net earnings. These behavioral responses usually offset the positive labor market results that policymakers
are hoping for."

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.or.../pdf/PA701.pdf

It is simple common sense that it would work that way. Historically, it has never done any of those things that POLITICIANS preach about.

Yeah, the higher minimum wage is going to raise proces terribly. Add a few cents onto your beer is really going to harm you.

Dripping with desparation? No, I was just revisiting some Republican historical figure. Aren't you proud of Quayle?

As to the baloney from Cato, just pure Republican blather.

I do not agree with prices increasing and your sarcasm aimed at me is sort of stupid, isnt it. This is not about ME or YOU....it is supposed to be about helping those in need. If the pennies go up for my beer, guess what....it will go up for EVERYBODY, thus what has been solved.

You sincerely believe that raising the minimum wage will not affect jobs ? Anyone who has worked in real world, knows that those companies are not going to give up the money as a donation.....there WILL BE CUTS IN STAFF.

Do you honestly believe this is the manner in which to attack poverty since we all know, or those outside of politics know, it will not have any affect on poverty, and it WILL cost jobs

As to whether a few more pennies to me is important...IT IS NOT.....doing something for those in need is what is needed, not political talk.

Just to add, the last study done, and I do not recall the source nor the exact numbers, but asking you to think about it.....over 50% of those affected by an increase in minimum wage were NOT the people who needed it.

Instead of politicians talking to each other, insuring that companies can expand that have the better paying jobs, and press for attendance at schools to get an education, nothing will change. All the programs in the past to raise people out of poverty and need that were not based on self sufficient goals, and were only hand outs of whatever degree were abject failures.

I think Rubio hits a home run every time he speaks on this. He subscribes that the biggest problem facing this country is the breakdown in the family. I believe that totally.

I know the breakdown in the family is treated by the left, IN GENERAL, as religious preaching, politically incorrect, and many other reasons given not to address it or even acknowledge it, but THAT single component can be traced to our downfall in so many areas, INCLUDING this economic mess.

By the way, I ignored the Quayle remark because YOU are a study in someone who puts party before all, and feels that mocking people who carry a registration card different from yours is evil.

When I discuss anyone in any political forum of any party, I will always refer to an issue or a stand taken by the person.

I realize that is foreign to you, and your feeling is Republican = evil and that is the end of the story and then comes a little icon..boom, I think is the wording.

By the way, Dan Quayle was opposed to raising the minimum wage also I think, as many others do that the FEDERAL minimum wage should be abolished.

It is a function of the States and NOT FEDERAL.

And, the Democrat poster child for brains, Obama, calls Navy Corpsman, "Navy Corpseman" .

When are the liberals going to understand the minimum wage jobs are entry level to the job force. They are not meant to be a career position sustaining a living wage. Do you know anyone who started working at McDonalds still working there?

Probably never. Unfortunately, when people are either too lazy or too stupid to advance themselves, jobs such as those offered by McDonald's do become careers.

How can you have Free Enterprise if the gov controls your business? Minimum wages are always starting wages, usually for jobs that teenagers (used to) take or as a second, part-time job. No one stays at starting level is they stay at a job for a few months. Let private business adjust their employee wages according to their profits and you see a flourishing economy. If the gov dictate wages levels, then you have a stagnant economy and less employment growth. Even liberal economics prove that. The gov ruins the economy when it interferes with business.

it is crystal clear there is a definite lack of business/accounting understanding.
If a business generates only so much margin (look it up!) that is all there is to pay wages. So when the government makes a business raise wages there is only one think a business person can do. Give the increases to some and let enough go that allow paying the increase. Or how about cutting hours back so that the wages paid still match the amount left to pay wages.

The arbitray raising of expenses (wages) will sffect as many or more people negatively than the top billing raised wages.
Total and complete lack of business understanding by the politicians that are buying votes and the lemminga who support without knowing what they are doing.

Excuse me, but you are attempting to educate a liberal. Liberals believe that all business owners are evil and make their money illegally. Besides, if you don't make a large enough profit to pay your employees their higher wages, then you should do like the gov and borrow it and not pay it back. The entitled don't understand responsibility, free enterprise or capitalism. All of those words are not PC and banned from liberal vocabulary.

A whole lot of you are making statements of fact, raising minimum wage will guarantee people will,lose their jobs in every field of business, that can't be backed up. Economists have argued for years on both side of the effect on jobs by raising minimum wage. This isn't something that is set in concrete.

Minimum wage jobs are no longer the property of young people entering the job market. A reasonable increase in the minimum is long overdue. The key word there is reasonable.

Concerning Hillary buying votes with promise of raising the minimum wage, the assumption is people making minimum actually follow politics. The people doing these jobs aren't smartest in the world as evidenced by the work that they are doing.

After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen. It's obvious that minimum wages was not enough to keep the Clintons from stealing.

Let's see what Politifact says:

Viral image claims Clintons stole $200k in furniture, china and artwork from White House | PunditFact

Even though it appears that the Clintons may have "misappropriated" slightly less than the amount some have claimed, they are still dishonest and cannot be trusted.

Chi, you know they stole. Why do you insist on defending them? I can give you more links that insist they were thieves than you can disputing it.

Clintons Return White House Furniture - ABC News

https://www.americarisingpac.org/bil...-like-hillary/

Clintons Will Return Any Gifts Found to Belong to White House - NYTimes.com

Regardless of the exact figure of the theft, any figure that has been attributed to the Clintons when they vacated the White House is grand larceny and a felony in any of the 50 states.

Clinton law = you are only guilty if you get caught.
If you get caught then lie your a$$ off while making the offense go away or hiding it anyway possible accompanied by the following:

we were not aware there was anything illegal. Then blame it on the cleaning lady!

While I acknowledge that some of the claims against both Bill and Hillary Clinton are exaggerated to be sure....

I am constantly amazed at how those on the left will do anything to defend these two of any crime or anything bad. There is so much that has been verified and shown to be true, I just wonder what these two have done to earn such loyalty in the face of facts.

Is it really that you all think it is truely a right wing conspiracy of such a vast span, and I mean it would need to be huge. that all of those folks who have come forth, and all the lies told on national television by this couple were manufactured in some manner ?

Ignorant liberals have been assured/brainwashed that it is ALL a Republican conspiracy. At least that is what Hilary and Debbie Whatshername is insisting and they plan to stick with it.

In my opinion, Hilary should be hung as a traitor. America would not miss her and I doubt Bill would either. About the only person that would miss her would be her daughter.

Clinton laundry
 

Perhaps the Clintons can buy some of those votes with the laundered funds as detailed here.

Crooks, thieves, and liars...but who cares? - Maggie's Farm

Don't forget that the crapweasel George W. Bush and his fellow crapweasel Cheney would be tried as war criminals if they left the USA.

Nice try, but if Bush would be tried, so would Kerry, Clinton, and a majority of congress. Nope, no wrong doing there. You wish, but the only criminal right now is Hilary "the liar" Clinton. Of course, Obama is complicit also, but no one is going to put the first black president on trial. Sorry about bursting your bubble. Naw, not really.

On a nice day like today, why aren't you out playing golf, at the square, or enjoying a Happy Hour instead of ranting on the computer?

When I retire in quite a few more years, I will not be wasting them in such tripe.

Watch out for the black helicopters. The NSA does scrutinize right wing chat rooms, you know.

I can hear it in the democrat talking point meetings...."what would we be talking about if W was not for W????

I don't care what the subject the lamo response will come out every time.
The play book must really be very, VERY thin.
Or the string broke!

Now that it's been brought up, when was the last time W or Cheney left the country?

What is wrong with you people and I mean on both sides of the aisle.

Have you nothing better to do than rehash history and talk as if you knew something...

"Our ruling

The meme on social media said that Bush and Cheney are "unable to visit Europe due to outstanding warrants." The claim that there are "outstanding warrants" is flat wrong. And while it’s theoretically possible for a national court to issue an arrest warrant against either man, as was done with Pinochet, there is no sign of that happening. We rate the claim False."

Are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney unable to visit Europe due to threat of arrest? | PolitiFact

My advice is that you all, ON BOTH SIDES, get your heads out of your backsides, find out what is happening FOR REAL today and discuss this.

This is truly an excersize for 12 year olds.

Well Chi, why don't you get over it? Bush and Cheney aren't the issue. This inept pseudo-president is on his way out, doing his best to hose up the country on his way out, and we have a criminal running for the position as the next president.

Now, the thread is about Clinton, not Bush, not Cheney, not Trump, not Carson.....just Clinton. If you want to bring up Obama because she worked for him, fine. If you need attention, why don't you go talk on the Coyote thread?

OR, why don't you watch the debates tonight so you can get an idea of which candidate might be the next president. One that won't be tying up taxpayer funds on a criminal investigation.

MD, why the j.o. attitude. Just say you don't know and don't care. BTW, I'm watching tonight just for Maria Bartrimomo. And Trump, of course

Is it really that hard to stay on topic? "attitude?" Liberals diverting or blaming someone else gives me the "attitude." Can't you converse on a subject without either being defensive or diverting elsewhere? If you are embarrassed for Hilary and don't wish to discuss the issues, then just don't comment. Don't worry, there will be a lot of folks talking about Obama and his failures (the latest was the greatest) so you don't have to worry about talking about Hilary for a while. But, that is for another thread.

MD, how about the 4 million dollars already spent by the Benghazi investigative boys? That was taxpayer money and Gowdy proved himself inept and Mrs. Clinton took a victory lap toward her being President.

No, it is about Bush and Cheney as war criminals who lied to America.

Interesting.....

A thread about Hillary Clinton in 2015 is about Bush and Cheney. Not sure how to respond to something like that without an insult, so will simply say that you better get up to the present and see what is going on.

While I have my problems with just about any of these comm (and I might add, those on that comm. are not "boys"...your choice of how you express itself is however symptomatic of boys),, let's remember they are still in session and that group discovered Ms Clinton trying to circumvent the rules with her email, and they are not done yet, primarily because of Ms Clinton' devious actions.

As far as cost is concerned, based on the WH efforts on training folks to fight ISIS, that amounts to ...what...2 men ?

I would suggest you do two things....first get up to date and drop the "company line" that isn't even that anymore, and do something very fresh ad new...post some reason for America to trust YOUR candidate.

Since you are so outraged about the $4 million spent on the Benghazi investigation, I'm surprised that you didn't express the same concern over the $1.6 billion that was allocated to establish the Obama Care states coops that can't be accounted for.

:cus: BS!

Dear Guest: I absolutely agree with you that far too much money and time has been spent on Benghazi. All of this and the issues of a personal server could have been avoided if the Clintons were honest and honorable people and at minimum at least honest enough to admit their wrong doing. However their modus operandi beginning from back in the days of Arkansas has been to deny, stall and feigned indignation; even when they are caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Mea coupa's are for little people . Its incomprehensible that any decent human being would defend these crooked artful dodgers. To put the American people through this nonsense and distracting America's attention from more critical issues is in itself criminal and selfish of the Clinton's . Like mobsters they thumb their noses at decent law abiding citizens.

And not only was a comparison between the Clinton's, Bush and Cheney off topic the comparison was misplaced despite one's opinion. On the one hand your are addressing intentional criminal acts for selfish gains to differences of opinion on judgements made during a dangerous period for this nation following 9/11. People may not agree with what these two men did but we should let history determine their fate. My bet is that history will come don favorably on their desire to protect this nation.

Personal Best Regards: