Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, Political talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/)
-   -   Is this the best we have? (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/best-we-have-182853/)

Guest 02-20-2016 06:44 PM

Is this the best we have?
 
I'm a registered Republican who is very disgusted with my primary candidates. But as poor as I think my party's candidates are I'm looking at Hillary Clilton and asking myself what in hell is wrong with us as a society? To think this person has a chance of being the leader of this country troubles me. Although Sanders is not my second choice, he would be my pick if I was a Democrat. When I see a room full of people cheering Hillary Clinton I have to ask what has happened to us?

Guest 02-20-2016 07:36 PM

I can understand your disgust in the Republican candidates. The only decent one is John Kasich and he does not have a prayer. Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are embarrassing to the USA if they were ever elected as President.

Bernie Sanders would be a terrible president. Absolutely nothing would be passed by Congress.

Hillary has experience as a former First Lady and she was the brains of the Clinton presidency. She will be an excellent President.

Hopefully voters will get a majority of Democratic members in Congress so things can be accomplished instead of just more divisive politics.

Guest 02-20-2016 10:44 PM

our biggest problem as Republicans is that we have so many good people...makes the vote get separated and dissipated....but in the end i think Donald Trump will be our next president and will do a great job.

Guest 02-20-2016 10:51 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188570)
our biggest problem as republicans is that we have so many good people...makes the vote get separated and dissipated....but in the end i think donald trump will be our next president and will do a great job.




lol

Guest 02-21-2016 12:20 AM

Clinton has experience as First Lady........you are outta your bleeping mind.

hA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Guest 02-21-2016 04:38 AM

To the poster that suggests that Hillary would make a good president because she was married to a president........or you out of your bleeping mind? You shouldn't even be allowed to vote, if you are that stupid.

Next thing you will say is that she should be president because we have never had a female president before.

Do some research on her and her husband and you will find out how much trouble this country would be in if she was elected. They are the most corrupt couple in politics of ANY previous administration, including Nixon. Shoot, after the FBI gets done with them, the IRS will be taking their turn.

Guest 02-21-2016 04:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188512)
I can understand your disgust in the Republican candidates. The only decent one is John Kasich and he does not have a prayer. Trump, Cruz, and Rubio are embarrassing to the USA if they were ever elected as President.

Bernie Sanders would be a terrible president. Absolutely nothing would be passed by Congress.

Hillary has experience as a former First Lady and she was the brains of the Clinton presidency. She will be an excellent President.

Hopefully voters will get a majority of Democratic members in Congress so things can be accomplished instead of just more divisive politics.

I hope you are right. The Donald's record on PolitiFact is one of the worst yet people still vote for this man.

Guest 02-21-2016 04:50 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188606)
I hope you are right. The Donald's record on PolitiFact is one of the worst yet people still vote for this man.

And nothing he has said so far is remotely practical and it also creates a huge government and pushes us into war with various countries if he acts on his various promises.

Guest 02-21-2016 05:54 AM

Bush quit, so Rubio will pick up much of Bush's voter base. That is going to make him almost even with Trump. If kasick drops out, Rubio will pick up his base and give him the majority. However, if Carson gets out, Trump may pick up a lot of his votes. It's going to be Trump and Rubio in the home stretch. I think that the more people see of Trump the more they will see that he is a loose cannon. My vote is still leaning toward Rubio. So far, Trump has been hands off on Rubio. Is he thinking that Rubio would make a decent VP running mate when he gets the nomination? If so, a Trump/Rubio ticket would be a landslide win in the general election. The Clintons would finally be handed their walking papers.

Guest 02-21-2016 06:08 AM

Voters recognize that there is not a perfect candidate. However, we are in an election year and not just an ordinary one, but a critical one and we do not have one candidate worthy of this office.

America has watched as a man whom they knew was worthy of this position but voted for him because of either party or because of his color or both. His presidency is so replete with bad judgments, irrational decision and child-like behavior that it would take the 7.5 years he as been in office to list them.

It shocks the conscience to realize that anyone would vote for Hillary given her record of dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed the political and elite class have gotten so powerful that given the allegation against her that she is even allowed to run. One has to go no further than understand the danger she placed this nation with the use of a personal server so that she could hide her record.
an
Bernie Sanders is preaching marxism and voters are cheering. Are these voters so unaware of the fact that marxism, communism socialism is the enemy of this free nation. Free stuff translates into we own you and i for one do not want to be owned by anyone and especially government

Trump is all bluster. But the biggest fear I have is that he has not given one idota of detail as to how he will serve as our president. he has tapped into voters anger and they have responded irrationally

Bush it is said will suspend his campaign

Cruz is another danger in my mind. he has been unethical in his campaign. I question his citizenship

Rubio is indeed too inexperienced and yet is the best of this bad lot

Kasich is a RINO and his decision concerning Medicaid concerns me.

So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 02-21-2016 07:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188613)
Bush quit, so Rubio will pick up much of Bush's voter base. That is going to make him almost even with Trump. If kasick drops out, Rubio will pick up his base and give him the majority. However, if Carson gets out, Trump may pick up a lot of his votes. It's going to be Trump and Rubio in the home stretch. I think that the more people see of Trump the more they will see that he is a loose cannon. My vote is still leaning toward Rubio. So far, Trump has been hands off on Rubio. Is he thinking that Rubio would make a decent VP running mate when he gets the nomination? If so, a Trump/Rubio ticket would be a landslide win in the general election. The Clintons would finally be handed their walking papers.

Nope, I don't see it happening that way. If there is a Trump/Rubio ticket, they will definitely be up against Hillary, but we we don't know who her running mate will be. In addition, as someone else mentioned, mainstream Republicans will surely see Trump as a loose canon, Rubio as a right wing fringe nut and I suspect he won't get any votes from independents either. Hillary, on the other hand, is the only person running with serious foreign policy credentials. And in this terrorist climate, that is one of the most important credentials of all. Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country. I don't see any way she can lose, based on who the Republicans are offering up.

Guest 02-21-2016 09:31 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188484)
I'm a registered Republican who is very disgusted with my primary candidates. But as poor as I think my party's candidates are I'm looking at Hillary Clilton and asking myself what in hell is wrong with us as a society? To think this person has a chance of being the leader of this country troubles me. Although Sanders is not my second choice, he would be my pick if I was a Democrat. When I see a room full of people cheering Hillary Clinton I have to ask what has happened to us?

Doesn't this say something about you and your repub party as a whole. Maybe the answer is, your out of the the mainstream, after all you are the minority.

Guest 02-21-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188570)
our biggest problem as Republicans is that we have so many good people...makes the vote get separated and dissipated....but in the end i think Donald Trump will be our next president and will do a great job.

"our biggest problem as Republicans is that we have so many good people"

You haven't been taking your medicine lately. lol

Guest 02-21-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188618)
Voters recognize that there is not a perfect candidate. However, we are in an election year and not just an ordinary one, but a critical one and we do not have one candidate worthy of this office.

America has watched as a man whom they knew was worthy of this position but voted for him because of either party or because of his color or both. His presidency is so replete with bad judgments, irrational decision and child-like behavior that it would take the 7.5 years he as been in office to list them.

It shocks the conscience to realize that anyone would vote for Hillary given her record of dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed the political and elite class have gotten so powerful that given the allegation against her that she is even allowed to run. One has to go no further than understand the danger she placed this nation with the use of a personal server so that she could hide her record.
an
Bernie Sanders is preaching marxism and voters are cheering. Are these voters so unaware of the fact that marxism, communism socialism is the enemy of this free nation. Free stuff translates into we own you and i for one do not want to be owned by anyone and especially government

Trump is all bluster. But the biggest fear I have is that he has not given one idota of detail as to how he will serve as our president. he has tapped into voters anger and they have responded irrationally

Bush it is said will suspend his campaign

Cruz is another danger in my mind. he has been unethical in his campaign. I question his citizenship

Rubio is indeed too inexperienced and yet is the best of this bad lot

Kasich is a RINO and his decision concerning Medicaid concerns me.

So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time

Personal Best Regards:

"So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time"


You will be voting Democrat then. lol

Guest 02-21-2016 09:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188618)
Voters recognize that there is not a perfect candidate. However, we are in an election year and not just an ordinary one, but a critical one and we do not have one candidate worthy of this office.

America has watched as a man whom they knew was worthy of this position but voted for him because of either party or because of his color or both. His presidency is so replete with bad judgments, irrational decision and child-like behavior that it would take the 7.5 years he as been in office to list them.

It shocks the conscience to realize that anyone would vote for Hillary given her record of dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed the political and elite class have gotten so powerful that given the allegation against her that she is even allowed to run. One has to go no further than understand the danger she placed this nation with the use of a personal server so that she could hide her record.
an
Bernie Sanders is preaching marxism and voters are cheering. Are these voters so unaware of the fact that marxism, communism socialism is the enemy of this free nation. Free stuff translates into we own you and i for one do not want to be owned by anyone and especially government

Trump is all bluster. But the biggest fear I have is that he has not given one idota of detail as to how he will serve as our president. he has tapped into voters anger and they have responded irrationally

Bush it is said will suspend his campaign

Cruz is another danger in my mind. he has been unethical in his campaign. I question his citizenship

Rubio is indeed too inexperienced and yet is the best of this bad lot

Kasich is a RINO and his decision concerning Medicaid concerns me.

So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time

Personal Best Regards:

Kasich decision on Medicaid shouldn't concern you. He put the health and well being of his citizens before his party. There is a poll that has Kasich beats Clinton by over 10%. All the others were a toss up. He won't be the Republican nominee, because sanity has left this election.

Rubio's inexperience can be overcome by good advisors. The question is does he know any, or who will send them in his direction.

Trump, and Cruz will be the worse thing that could happen to this country. If anyone thinks that this two clowns will be able to get anything done in DC, they have no idea how DC works now. Gridlock is the name of the game.

If either of these two gets nominated, you can say hello to President Clinton. Republicans will have no one to blame, but themselves. Four years of having to listen to her is a faith worse than death.

Guest 02-21-2016 10:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188629)
Nope, I don't see it happening that way. If there is a Trump/Rubio ticket, they will definitely be up against Hillary, but we we don't know who her running mate will be. In addition, as someone else mentioned, mainstream Republicans will surely see Trump as a loose canon, Rubio as a right wing fringe nut and I suspect he won't get any votes from independents either. Hillary, on the other hand, is the only person running with serious foreign policy credentials. And in this terrorist climate, that is one of the most important credentials of all. Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country. I don't see any way she can lose, based on who the Republicans are offering up.

Hillary will not be a concern. The Democrat establishment doesn't even support her. If she gets nominated, they know that the GOP gets the White House no matter which GOP candidate is nominated.

Trump is a loose cannon but to call Rubio "a right wing fringe" is the stupidest thing I have heard this year (it's early yet). I actually consider him to be moderate, but conservative.

Hillary getting the black vote is laughable. They won't even turn out for her. News flash, the call blacks a minority group because they ARE a minority. The black voter is NOT a majority. Wow! You need to do a bit of reading.

Guest 02-21-2016 11:00 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188629)
Nope, I don't see it happening that way. If there is a Trump/Rubio ticket, they will definitely be up against Hillary, but we we don't know who her running mate will be. In addition, as someone else mentioned, mainstream Republicans will surely see Trump as a loose canon, Rubio as a right wing fringe nut and I suspect he won't get any votes from independents either. Hillary, on the other hand, is the only person running with serious foreign policy credentials. And in this terrorist climate, that is one of the most important credentials of all. Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country. I don't see any way she can lose, based on who the Republicans are offering up.

Your loose use of stating which groups are majorities in America speaks to the lack of credibility of the post.
You need to do a little research....beyond the talking points issued.
Maybe this will serve as an example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States

Guest 02-21-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188618)
Voters recognize that there is not a perfect candidate. However, we are in an election year and not just an ordinary one, but a critical one and we do not have one candidate worthy of this office.

America has watched as a man whom they knew was worthy of this position but voted for him because of either party or because of his color or both. His presidency is so replete with bad judgments, irrational decision and child-like behavior that it would take the 7.5 years he as been in office to list them.

It shocks the conscience to realize that anyone would vote for Hillary given her record of dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed the political and elite class have gotten so powerful that given the allegation against her that she is even allowed to run. One has to go no further than understand the danger she placed this nation with the use of a personal server so that she could hide her record.
an
Bernie Sanders is preaching marxism and voters are cheering. Are these voters so unaware of the fact that marxism, communism socialism is the enemy of this free nation. Free stuff translates into we own you and i for one do not want to be owned by anyone and especially government

Trump is all bluster. But the biggest fear I have is that he has not given one idota of detail as to how he will serve as our president. he has tapped into voters anger and they have responded irrationally

Bush it is said will suspend his campaign

Cruz is another danger in my mind. he has been unethical in his campaign. I question his citizenship

Rubio is indeed too inexperienced and yet is the best of this bad lot

Kasich is a RINO and his decision concerning Medicaid concerns me.

So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time

Personal Best Regards:

No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Guest 02-21-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188700)
Doesn't this say something about you and your repub party as a whole. Maybe the answer is, your out of the the mainstream, after all you are the minority.

Apparently you are correct, I am out of the mainstream. When this started Christie, Paul, and Fiorina were my top 3 so that will tell you something about my leanings. I still stand by my original comment though that I can't believe what we are seeing on the stages of these debates is the best America has. During my working career I worked for people with more leadership skills than are displayed in this campaign. Although Trump and Hillary can fill a town hall with supporters I can only think their followers are desperate for someone to lead them. I personally don't think any of the remaining candidates could lead a pack of hungry wolves to fresh meat. IMO

Guest 02-21-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188770)
No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Rubio is a great financial advisor, he has a lot of experience with credit cards, how to manipulate them. Also, his brother-in-law took him under his wing.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:03 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188855)
Rubio is a great financial advisor, he has a lot of experience with credit cards, how to manipulate them. Also, his brother-in-law took him under his wing.

That is a stupid and superficial comment.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:22 PM

I think that Trump would be the best. He is far from stupid. Just because he calls it like it is, makes him unlikeable to many. We have had an eloquent speaker in there the last 7 years and you see where we are with that. Trump is 100% right-on in saying that PC (politically correct) is burying us, along with all the sell-outs from this administration. Sometime truth hurts.

He has already stated early on that he does not have all the answers but will absolutely depend on those who do. He has said all along that he intends to get the best people on board to guide his decisions. I believe that is true and that his choice for a running mate will be no different.

We do need to bring jobs back to THIS country; not send them to Cuba like the tractor manufacturer Obama just went along with. We do need to take care of our own from everything to security to medical and all in between. It's about time we get someone who is not beholden to all the special interest groups and their money. If he does what he says, and I think he will, he plans to take $1 for his salary and donate the rest to charity along with NOT taking a lifetime retirement.

This is a job and whoever gets the job is supposed to work for US...AMERICA. Congressional jobs were never designed to be the careers that they have become. These people are supposed to work for US, not all their special interest buddies/lobbyists.

As an owner/CEO, he understands the importance of relying on the best to get a job done. He has not built the empire he has by trying to do everything himself. (Of course, according to our current "leader", he didn't BUILD anything.) He has said that he intends to get people that know what they are doing and LISTEN to them and then HEED their advice.

People keep yelling that politics should be about what the people want and then when what the majority indicates they want by their votes, they are called all kinds of names, especially by the media pundits. Go figure.

He has no problem with immigrants, nor do I. What we both have is a problem with ILLEGAL immigration (by the way, so do the legal ones here) and the non-vetting of middle-east refugees. They need to be proven to be legitimate refugees and not terrorism operatives.

Question for everyone: When did we become a nation of minority rule instead of majority rule, anyway? Why does an entire nation have to cow-tow to a minority of 1 instead of the majority of the rest? Respect of individuals does not mean that everyone has to change.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188870)
I think that Trump would be the best. He is far from stupid. Just because he calls it like it is, makes him unlikeable to many. We have had an eloquent speaker in there the last 7 years and you see where we are with that. Trump is 100% right-on in saying that PC (politically correct) is burying us, along with all the sell-outs from this administration. Sometime truth hurts.

He has already stated early on that he does not have all the answers but will absolutely depend on those who do. He has said all along that he intends to get the best people on board to guide his decisions. I believe that is true and that his choice for a running mate will be no different.

We do need to bring jobs back to THIS country; not send them to Cuba like the tractor manufacturer Obama just went along with. We do need to take care of our own from everything to security to medical and all in between. It's about time we get someone who is not beholden to all the special interest groups and their money. If he does what he says, and I think he will, he plans to take $1 for his salary and donate the rest to charity along with NOT taking a lifetime retirement.

This is a job and whoever gets the job is supposed to work for US...AMERICA. Congressional jobs were never designed to be the careers that they have become. These people are supposed to work for US, not all their special interest buddies/lobbyists.

As an owner/CEO, he understands the importance of relying on the best to get a job done. He has not built the empire he has by trying to do everything himself. (Of course, according to our current "leader", he didn't BUILD anything.) He has said that he intends to get people that know what they are doing and LISTEN to them and then HEED their advice.

People keep yelling that politics should be about what the people want and then when what the majority indicates they want by their votes, they are called all kinds of names, especially by the media pundits. Go figure.

He has no problem with immigrants, nor do I. What we both have is a problem with ILLEGAL immigration (by the way, so do the legal ones here) and the non-vetting of middle-east refugees. They need to be proven to be legitimate refugees and not terrorism operatives.

Question for everyone: When did we become a nation of minority rule instead of majority rule, anyway? Why does an entire nation have to cow-tow to a minority of 1 instead of the majority of the rest? Respect of individuals does not mean that everyone has to change.

1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188770)
No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Dear Guest: No offense is taken. Rubio is first on my list. I also have considered that Rubio is smart enough to surround himself with good people.
He clearly is a patriot and I believe he has moral integrity. what I find lacking is he has no executive experience nor served in the military

The following candidates would be a total disaster for this country Trump, Cruz, Clinton, Sanders.

My wish list for priorities for the president in 2017 are reduction of government, elimination of the Federal Reserve, simplification of our tax system to eliminate or greatly reduce the IRS, elimination many federal agencies returning control to states. Term limits for congress 6 years and Supreme Court 12 years...I know I know "when you wish upon a star....

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 02-21-2016 02:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188874)
1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

And this list of "insultees" of Trump......would it not make you proud to have someone in the White House who insults anyone who does not "cow tail".

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ults.html?_r=0

This is not being political correct. It is a matter of someone who is a crass, bully and who is conning voters.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188881)
Dear Guest: No offense is taken. Rubio is first on my list. I also have considered that Rubio is smart enough to surround himself with good people.
He clearly is a patriot and I believe he has moral integrity. what I find lacking is he has no executive experience nor served in the military.

My wish list for priorities for the president in 2017 are reduction of government, elimination of the Federal Reserve, simplification of our tax system to eliminate or greatly reduce the IRS, elimination many federal agencies returning control to states. Term limits for congress 6 years and Supreme Court 12 years...I know I know "when you wish upon a star....

Personal Best Regards:

Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

Guest 02-21-2016 03:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188889)
Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

So, you are one of those that gives up on issues that you don't care about, right? I guess we had better just all go home and hide under our beds because life is just to hard to cope.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188874)
1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

1. Guess we'll just have to overlook that, right? By your opinion, we should have fired Biden, right?

2. The answer to this question is that we have exactly that in the White House right now.

3. We have a president that was pro-life, now isn't, was against gay marriage, now he is, was against raising the debt limit, now he is for it. Etc, etc.

4. Guess he will have to learn real fast, won't he. Looks like the writing is no the wall, and unless Rubio can beat him, Trump will be president number 45.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188889)
Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:26 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188903)
Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

And that is the comfort all the incompetent career politicians take.
In addition to having so many stupid Americans tha continue to re-elect those incometents.

They can do no wrong....and if they do they get to keep their job anyway.

Obama = proof positive of that fact.
Clinton "
Wrangle "
Pelosi "
Dirty hary "

Just to name a few well known examples.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188889)
Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

Military service is not a requirement for the position. Too bad, because that would be an asset.

Guest 02-21-2016 07:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188898)
1. Guess we'll just have to overlook that, right? By your opinion, we should have fired Biden, right?

2. The answer to this question is that we have exactly that in the White House right now.

3. We have a president that was pro-life, now isn't, was against gay marriage, now he is, was against raising the debt limit, now he is for it. Etc, etc.

4. Guess he will have to learn real fast, won't he. Looks like the writing is no the wall, and unless Rubio can beat him, Trump will be president number 45.

Allow me....

1. Your reference to Biden is confusing. To my knowledge, Joe Biden has NEVER EVER uttered profanity during a speech or answer to a question during a rally or news conference. Being picked up on a mike thinking you are private is a bit different than being so classless as to just spout that language in public (by the way in front of children)

2. Perhaps you are right but Trump has a filthy mouth and feel she is quite the stand up comedian at someone elses expense.

3. IT IS NOT TRUE that is what in the WH now. Trump has said, depending on the audience that he will completely repeal Obama care, adjust Obama Care, replace Obama care....depending on who he is talking to.

4. He has much to learn. His total lack of grasp of any issues is scary.

And most of all, I do not want this crass, foul mouthed, person representing my country. Thus we will see, you are right. Someone has to stop him.

Guest 02-22-2016 12:10 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188903)
Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

Then that means that Congress would have to actually stay on the job and WORK for a change instead of sucking up to their lobbyists and leaving every few days for "recess".

Speaking of recess: Why do they get recess and school kids can't anymore? At least something gets accomplished when the kids go out to play. Congress just finds different places to park their overpaid behinds!

Guest 02-22-2016 04:39 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188903)
Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

Dear Guest: First you don't know what I know about the US Constitution
Secondly, if you were not so quick to judge you would have let the words "wish list"sink in. Third every item on my wish list is never going to come to fruition and again, hence why I used the term "wish list"

As they say in my neck of the woods "I didn't just fall out of a tree".

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 02-22-2016 05:05 AM

Reinstate conscription
 
Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188912)
Military service is not a requirement for the position. Too bad, because that would be an asset.

Dear Guest: This particular issue is a sensitive one for me. If I recall accurately the last sitting President to have had actual (regular Army) service was George HW Bush who was a pilot during WWII.

I believe that military service be required for a person to become an eligible candidate for president because as president s/he will also serve as Commander of the military. It would in my mind help a president better understand the consequences of his/her choices.

But then I am one that believes that conscription should be reinstated.

First a mercinary military contributed to Rome's decline.

Secondly an all volunteer military will eventually become cost prohibitive

Third because it will become cost prohibitive quality recruitment will hampered

Fourth because it is volunteer a large segment of societies young people will have no skin in the game

Fifth Because they have no skin in the game they will become disengaged in this nation's world affairs.

Sixth because it is voluntary and the purse is in the hands of politician it will only become more political rather than strategical.

How do I know. Well that's is what is happening now

Worse yet Obama's social experiments with our military has exacerbated the damage being created by politicians who had bowed to pressures and eliminate the draft in the first place .

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 02-22-2016 05:57 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188969)
Allow me....

1. Your reference to Biden is confusing. To my knowledge, Joe Biden has NEVER EVER uttered profanity during a speech or answer to a question during a rally or news conference. Being picked up on a mike thinking you are private is a bit different than being so classless as to just spout that language in public (by the way in front of children)

2. Perhaps you are right but Trump has a filthy mouth and feel she is quite the stand up comedian at someone elses expense.

3. IT IS NOT TRUE that is what in the WH now. Trump has said, depending on the audience that he will completely repeal Obama care, adjust Obama Care, replace Obama care....depending on who he is talking to.

4. He has much to learn. His total lack of grasp of any issues is scary.

And most of all, I do not want this crass, foul mouthed, person representing my country. Thus we will see, you are right. Someone has to stop him.

What I listed still stands. Your attempt to dispute it, did not do so.
Your comment about Biden is pretty funny, actually. To say that he used vulgarity on an open mic by accident so it doesn't count as using vulgarity, is like saying that an accidental gun discharge that kills someone doesn't count as killing someone because the person holding the gun in a robbery did not mean to shoot anyone.

Politicians promise a lot of things that they can't achieve, just to get elected. If people believe them, then that is their stupidity. Sanders is telling the college voter that he will give them free college. Everyone knows that he has no authority to do so and would not have congress supporting his idea. And even if it was possible, these kids would be paying for college for the rest of their lives via increased taxes.

I have no plan to vote for Trump unless he is nominated. But, his mouth is minor in relation to the faults of the candidates for the other party.

Guest 02-22-2016 06:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1188765)
Your loose use of stating which groups are majorities in America speaks to the lack of credibility of the post.
You need to do a little research....beyond the talking points issued.
Maybe this will serve as an example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States

Maybe you need to do a little more research. According to the 2013 census,
The turnout rate of black voters surpassed the rate for whites for the first time on record in 2012, as more black voters went to the polls than in 2008 and fewer whites did. According to the census report, 66.2 percent of eligible blacks voted in the 2012 election, compared with 64.1 percent of eligible non-Hispanic whites. An estimated two million fewer white Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, just as about 1.8 million more blacks went to the polls.

Guest 02-22-2016 07:51 AM

I just love the demonstrated hypocracy of any opposition to their position or party. They go on and on making lists of those attributes they do not like in an opposing candidate. Or their lack of one or another.

And when one finishes reading their list we can only conclude they have ingeniously descibed Obama.

How does that work. All that they say the opposition does not have or is incapable of is OK for their current choice Obama.

Guest 02-22-2016 07:52 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1189049)
Maybe you need to do a little more research. According to the 2013 census,
The turnout rate of black voters surpassed the rate for whites for the first time on record in 2012, as more black voters went to the polls than in 2008 and fewer whites did. According to the census report, 66.2 percent of eligible blacks voted in the 2012 election, compared with 64.1 percent of eligible non-Hispanic whites. An estimated two million fewer white Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, just as about 1.8 million more blacks went to the polls.

Ah, but you didn't say anything about the black turnout. You said " Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country." Say what you mean or quit trying to back pedal when you get it wrong. Just admit it when you make a mistake. But, nice try. I have to applaud the fact that you actually looked something up. Most liberals are too lazy to make the effort.

Guest 02-22-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1189066)
Ah, but you didn't say anything about the black turnout. You said " Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country." Say what you mean or quit trying to back pedal when you get it wrong. Just admit it when you make a mistake. But, nice try. I have to applaud the fact that you actually looked something up. Most liberals are too lazy to make the effort.

Yes, I clearly had a typo and missed one word - "VOTING" as in voting majority. Good catch. Pat your self on the back - you clearly need your ego bolstered. But the fact is, the TURNOUT of black voters will propel the Democrats to a victory. And I daresay, laziness probably better applies to the Republicans as far as getting off their rear ends and out to the polls.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:55 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.