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Guest 03-11-2016 09:03 AM

I Am Thoroughly Disgusted
 
I just wrote the RNC explaining to them that for the first time in my adult life I am waiving my right to cast a vote in either the primary race and the general election. My reasons are as follows.

There is not one candidate in either party that is qualified to hold this office.

On the Democrat side the choice is either a communist or a crook. Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power.

As to the RNC beside the fact that no candidate is qualified the RNC and GOP power brokers are telling voters that their opinions don't matter.
The RNC and GOP power brokers demanded, at the first presidential debate, that all GOP candidates pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee and also pledge not to go third party. So Trump begins to crush the competition and what do these power brokers from GOP do, work toward defeating Trump and threatening to have their candidate go third party.
I am not a Trump supporter but up until now I believed in the process. No longer its rigged

The real threat to this nation is not ISIS it is corrupt politician, its liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.

Do you see where is is going? I do and I am thoroughly disgusted.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 03-11-2016 09:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197121)
I just wrote the RNC explaining to them that for the first time in my adult life I am waiving my right to cast a vote in either the primary race and the general election. My reasons are as follows.

There is not one candidate in either party that is qualified to hold this office.

On the Democrat side the choice is either a communist or a crook. Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power.

As to the RNC beside the fact that no candidate is qualified the RNC and GOP power brokers are telling voters that their opinions don't matter.
The RNC and GOP power brokers demanded, at the first presidential debate, that all GOP candidates pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee and also pledge not to go third party. So Trump begins to crush the competition and what do these power brokers from GOP do, work toward defeating Trump and threatening to have their candidate go third party.
I am not a Trump supporter but up until now I believed in the process. No longer its rigged

The real threat to this nation is not ISIS it is corrupt politician, its liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.

Do you see where is is going? I do and I am thoroughly disgusted.

Personal Best Regards:

"Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power."

You must ba a FBI agent to be aware of all this super secret info. lol

Guest 03-11-2016 09:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197125)
"Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power."

You must ba a FBI agent to be aware of all this super secret info. lol

Or, have your head buried in the sand not to.

Guest 03-11-2016 09:35 AM

Oh dear, the RNC is going to be devestated to hear that you are not going to vote!

If you wrote them on an email, it will just be one more piece of spam they delete. If you wrote a snail mail to them, your letter will just add to the carbon pollution as it gets burned.

You are stuck in the 1950's un-homogenized America where the white always rose to the top. This is 2016 and whether you like it or not, America is a blend where diversity between cultures and lifestyles all meet.

You have the choice to evolve with the times or move to your own cabin in the middle of a piece of land and spend your last days sitting on the porch with your shotgun.

Guest 03-11-2016 10:39 AM

All this craziness is an election to us. But the rest of the world may be looking at this as an IQ test. How are we doing?

Guest 03-11-2016 12:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197172)
All this craziness is an election to us. But the rest of the world may be looking at this as an IQ test. How are we doing?

Well they know we have been failing for the last 7+ years.
They have been quiet about it, laughing behind closed doors as we continue to pay out money to our enemies.

They are afraid of Trump who has the potential to disrupt the flow of US money to those abroad.

They also figure we could not be so stupid as to elect a crimnal as president. Especially one that has vowed to continue Obama's failures.
However they also know that if the USA should be so stupid to elect a criminal, they will breathe a sigh of relief, that cronyism politics will continue to be business as usual.

Guest 03-11-2016 01:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197214)
Well they know we have been failing for the last 7+ years.
They have been quiet about it, laughing behind closed doors as we continue to pay out money to our enemies....

They also figure we could not be so stupid as to elect a crimnal as president. Especially one that has vowed to continue Obama's failures....

You need a more credible source of news other than Fox. President Obama is very highly regarded throughout the world. This is what they say in Britain, for example: "In Europe, we see President Obama as an educated, thoughtful, and sincere man, whereas Donald Trump has all the finesse and demeanor of a demented circus clown." .. Colin Eccles, England. The Pew Research Center studies show that in general, across the board, particularly among U.S. allies in Europe and Asia-Pacific, Obama enjoys considerable public support, as opposed to his predecessor George Bush who was reviled abroad.

Guest 03-11-2016 01:18 PM

Sadly, America has been a laughing stock ever since Florida couldn't count and it took so long to not elect Gore. I sincerely doubt there is much we can do to ourselves today to make much of a difference, especially with the fiasco of politics today.

I totally agree there is no one running worthy to be our President. I don't want a loud-mouthed egomaniac. I don't want a liar or a crook. I don't want a green-behind-the-ears Senator who's too busy running for President to do his job. I don't want someone so firmly entrenched in their beliefs that those beliefs will come before the rights of women. I. Want. None. Of. Them!

Any chance we can start over and get some real, decent candidates? I thought not but I can dream, right?

So, like you Republicans today, I'll grit my teeth the next four to eight years, pray mightily that the harm done by whomever is in office won't be too great and pray even harder that our next choices will be someone who deserves the position of POTUS. (The big difference is I won't denigrate whomever is elected but I might whine a lot to myself.)

Red

Guest 03-11-2016 01:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197227)
You need a more credible source of news other than Fox. President Obama is very highly regarded throughout the world. This is what they say in Britain, for example: "In Europe, we see President Obama as an educated, thoughtful, and sincere man, whereas Donald Trump has all the finesse and demeanor of a demented circus clown." .. Colin Eccles, England. The Pew Research Center studies show that in general, across the board, particularly among U.S. allies in Europe and Asia-Pacific, Obama enjoys considerable public support, as opposed to his predecessor George Bush who was reviled abroad.

I agree! :thumbup:

Guest 03-11-2016 01:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197227)
You need a more credible source of news other than Fox. President Obama is very highly regarded throughout the world. This is what they say in Britain, for example: "In Europe, we see President Obama as an educated, thoughtful, and sincere man, whereas Donald Trump has all the finesse and demeanor of a demented circus clown." .. Colin Eccles, England. The Pew Research Center studies show that in general, across the board, particularly among U.S. allies in Europe and Asia-Pacific, Obama enjoys considerable public support, as opposed to his predecessor George Bush who was reviled abroad.

As long as the USA keeps sending them the money, they will keep talking nice nice. As long as he continues to make give away deals like the Iran nuclear disator agreement, they will keep talking nice nice.
As long as they are allowed to ship their goods into the USA free of charges AND we are not allowed to either ship into theirs or WE must pay a tax to do so....they will keep talking nice nice.

The difference between Bush and Obama? Obama is the bow down to all comers, a$$ kissing, appologizer for the USA behavior, sucker upper, give the enemy the benefit of the doubt sympathizer.

Guest 03-11-2016 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1197214]Well they know we have been failing for the last 7+ years.
They have been quiet about it, laughing behind closed doors as we continue to pay out money to our enemies.

They are afraid of Trump who has the potential to disrupt the flow of US money to those abroad.
QUOTE]

Trump does Not have the potential to disrupt the flow of USA money to those abroad. Any of his bluster about import taxes would have to be approved by Congress. That is not going to happen

Congess knows that higher import taxes would be met with the foreign countries raising their tariffs and American goods would not be sold overseas.

Also, how would you like paying 45 percent more than now for a flat screen television at WalMart or Best Buy?

Trump is all talk about saying,"I know how to do it and they will listen to me."

Guest 03-11-2016 01:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197125)
"Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power."

You must ba a FBI agent to be aware of all this super secret info. lol

Dear Guest: No I am not an FBI agent but I read a lot from a variety of sources. and the super secret info you reference is found right on the front page.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 03-11-2016 02:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197141)
Oh dear, the RNC is going to be devestated to hear that you are not going to vote!

If you wrote them on an email, it will just be one more piece of spam they delete. If you wrote a snail mail to them, your letter will just add to the carbon pollution as it gets burned.

You are stuck in the 1950's un-homogenized America where the white always rose to the top. This is 2016 and whether you like it or not, America is a blend where diversity between cultures and lifestyles all meet.

You have the choice to evolve with the times or move to your own cabin in the middle of a piece of land and spend your last days sitting on the porch with your shotgun.

Dear Guest: You can bet if I feel this way there are a lot more like me writing GOP. I do agree they will ignore my e-mail but then ignoring their GOP members is what got leading the pack.

Am I stuck in the 1950's? If so leave me there with people who were more ethical, civil, fair. You see it is apparent from your response that you fall into that trap that dividers have created to keep controversy going forward because it greases their wheels (palms). White privilege and heterosexual privilege were invented to keep wars going between the masses. Its how powerful people stay powerful. Just ask Al Sharpton .

I have always adapted to the times but I have not given way to my principles, moral character and beliefs .

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 03-11-2016 02:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197227)
You need a more credible source of news other than Fox. President Obama is very highly regarded throughout the world. This is what they say in Britain, for example: "In Europe, we see President Obama as an educated, thoughtful, and sincere man, whereas Donald Trump has all the finesse and demeanor of a demented circus clown." .. Colin Eccles, England. The Pew Research Center studies show that in general, across the board, particularly among U.S. allies in Europe and Asia-Pacific, Obama enjoys considerable public support, as opposed to his predecessor George Bush who was reviled abroad.

Dear Guest: Only you know the truth as to why given by every measure the Obama Administration has been a total disaster, that you defend the indefensible but so be it. You certainly are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to the facts. You would be wise to broaden your reading

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 03-11-2016 02:28 PM

The real threat to this nation is liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.
:[/QUOTE]

Amazing! The pledge of allegiance to the American flag by schoolkids is really just a rote exercise and has no meaning to them. Also, if foreign students are in that class, why would they be forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag? Basically, it is a worthless exercise for kids. I have never heard of an "international flag pledge".

Regarding the white men are evil diatribe. Look at the Spanish conquistidores, the Western expansion of the USA called "Manifest Destiny", the imprisoning of Japanese US citizens during WWII just to name a few. Lots of evil things have happened but schools also teach what achievements have occurred.

No, hetrosexual behavior is not evil but what is evil is the intolerance toward the LBGT community by hetrosexuals. They deserve ALL the human dignity and civil rights as hetrosexuals.

Finally, white privilege does not exist ANYMORE. You obviously have never gotten over the fact that a Black man is the leader of the USA and was elected to office TWICE! The next leader will be a woman. This is the 21st century. Deal with it!

Guest 03-11-2016 02:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197172)
All this craziness is an election to us. But the rest of the world may be looking at this as an IQ test. How are we doing?

Why does this post come up on my screen with the name Ch????? Is that the author? I purposely shortened it. The other posts say Guest. Isn't this an anonymous board for everyone?

Guest 03-11-2016 02:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197260)
The real threat to this nation is liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.
:

Amazing! The pledge of allegiance to the American flag by schoolkids is really just a rote exercise and has no meaning to them. Also, if foreign students are in that class, why would they be forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag? Basically, it is a worthless exercise for kids. I have never heard of an "international flag pledge".

Regarding the white men are evil diatribe. Look at the Spanish conquistidores, the Western expansion of the USA called "Manifest Destiny", the imprisoning of Japanese US citizens during WWII just to name a few. Lots of evil things have happened but schools also teach what achievements have occurred.

No, hetrosexual behavior is not evil but what is evil is the intolerance toward the LBGT community by hetrosexuals. They deserve ALL the human dignity and civil rights as hetrosexuals.

Finally, white privilege does not exist ANYMORE. You obviously have never gotten over the fact that a Black man is the leader of the USA and was elected to office TWICE! The next leader will be a woman. This is the 21st century. Deal with it![/QUOTE]

Typical liberal without morals, ethics or decency. There is no use addressing all of that diatribe of nothing but garbage. I feel sorry for your pathetic @ss.

Guest 03-11-2016 02:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197255)
Dear Guest: Only you know the truth as to why given by every measure the Obama Administration has been a total disaster, that you defend the indefensible but so be it. You certainly are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to the facts. You would be wise to broaden your reading

Personal Best Regards:

Really? Even the Pew Institute is not considered an unbiased source? Can you back that up?

Guest 03-11-2016 02:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197266)
Amazing! The pledge of allegiance to the American flag by schoolkids is really just a rote exercise and has no meaning to them. Also, if foreign students are in that class, why would they be forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag? Basically, it is a worthless exercise for kids. I have never heard of an "international flag pledge".

Regarding the white men are evil diatribe. Look at the Spanish conquistidores, the Western expansion of the USA called "Manifest Destiny", the imprisoning of Japanese US citizens during WWII just to name a few. Lots of evil things have happened but schools also teach what achievements have occurred.

No, hetrosexual behavior is not evil but what is evil is the intolerance toward the LBGT community by hetrosexuals. They deserve ALL the human dignity and civil rights as hetrosexuals.

Finally, white privilege does not exist ANYMORE. You obviously have never gotten over the fact that a Black man is the leader of the USA and was elected to office TWICE! The next leader will be a woman. This is the 21st century. Deal with it!



Typical liberal without morals, ethics or decency. There is no use addressing all of that diatribe of nothing but garbage. I feel sorry for your pathetic @ss.

Guest 03-11-2016 02:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197270)
Typical liberal without morals, ethics or decency. There is no use addressing all of that diatribe of nothing but garbage.chilout I feel sorry for your pathetic @ss.

...thank you. You are nothing more than a retarded bigot.

Guest 03-11-2016 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197251)
White privilege and heterosexual privilege were invented

Racism and homophobia were invented. By nature we are neither racists or homophobic. That's a something to think about. I'd like to believe it's true. Why can't it be true?

Guest 03-11-2016 02:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197276)
...thank you. You are nothing more than a retarded bigot.

No one says retarded anymore but I think we know what you mean. Challenged is a better word.

Guest 03-11-2016 02:58 PM

Mentally Challenged Vs. Retarded

Lottsa retarded folks here in TV.

Guest 03-11-2016 04:14 PM

A Republican friend threw this by me today. Does this have wings?

Obama doesn't like Hillary, and doesn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee. So, he will not stop the legal charges that will be brought against Hillary. The super delegates will vote for Joe Biden in the first round. This will ensure that Hillary doesn't have enough delegates in the first round. This will cause a brokered convention. Since legal action will turn off most of the delegates Hillary won in the primaries, they will vote for Biden in the second round, and he will have enough delegates to be the Democratic nominee.

This might have been the plan along. Biden didn't have the people in place to run a winnable campaign. This is a way that he, and Obama got around it. He get the nomination without the fight.

Guest 03-11-2016 06:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197229)
Sadly, America has been a laughing stock ever since Florida couldn't count and it took so long to not elect Gore. I sincerely doubt there is much we can do to ourselves today to make much of a difference, especially with the fiasco of politics today.

I totally agree there is no one running worthy to be our President. I don't want a loud-mouthed egomaniac. I don't want a liar or a crook. I don't want a green-behind-the-ears Senator who's too busy running for President to do his job. I don't want someone so firmly entrenched in their beliefs that those beliefs will come before the rights of women. I. Want. None. Of. Them!

Any chance we can start over and get some real, decent candidates? I thought not but I can dream, right?

So, like you Republicans today, I'll grit my teeth the next four to eight years, pray mightily that the harm done by whomever is in office won't be too great and pray even harder that our next choices will be someone who deserves the position of POTUS. (The big difference is I won't denigrate whomever is elected but I might whine a lot to myself.)

Red

Who ever you are we are singing from the same page from hymnal. It reminds off hen I travelled to Germany during the OJ trial and felt I had to apologized for America.

Guest 03-11-2016 07:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197310)
A Republican friend threw this by me today. Does this have wings?

Obama doesn't like Hillary, and doesn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee. So, he will not stop the legal charges that will be brought against Hillary. The super delegates will vote for Joe Biden in the first round. This will ensure that Hillary doesn't have enough delegates in the first round. This will cause a brokered convention. Since legal action will turn off most of the delegates Hillary won in the primaries, they will vote for Biden in the second round, and he will have enough delegates to be the Democratic nominee.

This might have been the plan along. Biden didn't have the people in place to run a winnable campaign. This is a way that he, and Obama got around it. He get the nomination without the fight.

We all know there is a plan 'B'. The powers that be will allow mz. above the law to risk the WH so far.

The other long shot is Bernie blows her away.

She will not be on the democratic ballot in the election.

NOBODY LIKES HER!

Guest 03-11-2016 07:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197229)
Sadly, America has been a laughing stock ever since Florida couldn't count and it took so long to not elect Gore. I sincerely doubt there is much we can do to ourselves today to make much of a difference, especially with the fiasco of politics today.

I totally agree there is no one running worthy to be our President. I don't want a loud-mouthed egomaniac. I don't want a liar or a crook. I don't want a green-behind-the-ears Senator who's too busy running for President to do his job. I don't want someone so firmly entrenched in their beliefs that those beliefs will come before the rights of women. I. Want. None. Of. Them!

Any chance we can start over and get some real, decent candidates? I thought not but I can dream, right?

So, like you Republicans today, I'll grit my teeth the next four to eight years, pray mightily that the harm done by whomever is in office won't be too great and pray even harder that our next choices will be someone who deserves the position of POTUS. (The big difference is I won't denigrate whomever is elected but I might whine a lot to myself.)

Red

Thank you, Red, for the thoughtful post. It really caught my attention because earlier today I was thinking abut this very subject brought up by the OP, and I thought surely there are intelligent folks on the opposite side of the aisle who feel the same way I do about the candidates in general. I know this to be true because my liberal, feminist aunt who would love to see a woman President will also not vote for Hillary and is disgusted by the process and what is going on. And then i read your post. As discouraged as I feel that what we have to choose from is less than desirable, I'm encouraged by the fact that there are some (maybe many) from both parties who could actually be in agreement with one another where politics is concerned regarding lack of quality candidates on both sides. Now if there was only something we could do other than chose from the lesser of 2 evils. Really getting tired of that scenario.

Guest 03-11-2016 09:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197229)
Sadly, America has been a laughing stock ever since Florida couldn't count and it took so long to not elect Gore. I sincerely doubt there is much we can do to ourselves today to make much of a difference, especially with the fiasco of politics today.

I totally agree there is no one running worthy to be our President. I don't want a loud-mouthed egomaniac. I don't want a liar or a crook. I don't want a green-behind-the-ears Senator who's too busy running for President to do his job. I don't want someone so firmly entrenched in their beliefs that those beliefs will come before the rights of women. I. Want. None. Of. Them!

Any chance we can start over and get some real, decent candidates? I thought not but I can dream, right?

So, like you Republicans today, I'll grit my teeth the next four to eight years, pray mightily that the harm done by whomever is in office won't be too great and pray even harder that our next choices will be someone who deserves the position of POTUS. (The big difference is I won't denigrate whomever is elected but I might whine a lot to myself.)

Red

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH3U...guhZnOZO3cA9DQ

Have you ever listened to a Bernie speech? You won't see anyone dragged out of the room. Bernie's net worth is $520k. Maybe that makes him a looser in some people's eyes. He's 74. And while I'm younger and playing golf down here, he's trying to make a better future for my grandchildren. I'm not worried about getting my head chopped off or being robbed by a Latino but I am worried about the issues he addresses. The least I can do is post a link hoping someone has the time to at least listen to his speech.

I'm expecting the hate posts to follow. That's OK. Bring it on.

Guest 03-11-2016 10:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197270)
Typical liberal without morals, ethics or decency. There is no use addressing all of that diatribe of nothing but garbage. I feel sorry for your pathetic @ss.

I could say back at ya but then I would be stooping to your schoolyard level so I won't!

Guest 03-11-2016 10:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197395)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH3U...guhZnOZO3cA9DQ

Have you ever listened to a Bernie speech? You won't see anyone dragged out of the room. Bernie's net worth is $520k. Maybe that makes him a looser in some people's eyes. He's 74. And while I'm younger and playing golf down here, he's trying to make a better future for my grandchildren. I'm not worried about getting my head chopped off or being robbed by a Latino but I am worried about the issues he addresses. The least I can do is post a link hoping someone has the time to at least listen to his speech.

I'm expecting the hate posts to follow. That's OK. Bring it on.

I'm not a Bernie supporter at all (his complaints and analysis are mostly correct, but it's his solutions are marxist-leninist....state controlled everything). But at least Bernie is authentic and not always working on covering up lies like that crooked, lying woman.

That said, I was all for Bernie when Black Lives Matter took over his microphone and drove him off the stage his campaign had organized and probably paid to rent the venue. I felt he should have stood up to them and talked about how "diversity" includes listening to diverse opinions.

When different opinions are no longer allowed to be heard in this country, we are slouching toward some kind of awful police state in which speech is censored, silenced and re-mixed/released in twisted tidbits by the media.

Sadly, the ones who claim to be so "liberal" and "accepting of others" and "open-minded" are the same ones shutting down Trump's rally of 25,000 in Chicago right now.

If you want freedom of speech for yourself or Bernie, you should allow freedom of speech for opposition, too. This is a really bad trend for our nation. Meanwhile, Obama and Clintons are loving every minute of this Alinsky-styled "Rules for Radicals" chaos and division.

And to the o.p., a search for the "perfect, pure" candidate is not going to happen. Since you're not for the current administration, you'd do well to vote against a third term of it named Hillary Clinton.

Guest 03-11-2016 10:21 PM

Saul Alinsky was a facinating person. He was kind to everyone and generous to a fault. Saul had a great sense of humor. He was a very spiritual person, too. Saul believed that no one should be suffering and did his best to level the playing field of life.

I am very fortunate to have had him as a teacher and was able to call him a friend. I miss Saul very much.

Guest 03-11-2016 11:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197414)
Saul Alinsky was a facinating person. He was kind to everyone and generous to a fault. Saul had a great sense of humor. He was a very spiritual person, too. Saul believed that no one should be suffering and did his best to level the playing field of life.

I am very fortunate to have had him as a teacher and was able to call him a friend. I miss Saul very much.

And what would "Saul" have said/done if he'd been at Bernie's rally when Bernie's microphone was taken from him and his speech was shut down by Black Lives Matter who silenced him?

This is a must-see video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BnbwUT7lBg

Guest 03-11-2016 11:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197413)
That said, I was all for Bernie when Black Lives Matter took over his microphone and drove him off the stage his campaign had organized and probably paid to rent the venue. I felt he should have stood up to them and talked about how "diversity" includes listening to diverse opinions.[/U] a third term of it named Hillary Clinton.

"Black lives, of course, matter. I spent 50 years of my life fighting for civil rights and for dignity," he said then. "But if you don't want me to be here, that's OK. I don't want to out-scream people."

Sanders has started to address race issues more than he did at the start of his campaign, but he still regularly frames issues of race and inequality as economic matters, arguing that the key to combating racial disparities is by raising wages and increasing opportunities.

Bernie Sanders Black Lives Matter: Protesters disrupt - CNNPolitics.com

I think you should be all for Bernie again. He doesn't see the issue as diversity. And the solution as tolerance. He sees the issue as an economic one, the haves and the have nots. I like that philosophy. If you don't want me to be here , that's OK. I like that message too.

Guest 03-12-2016 05:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197427)
"Black lives, of course, matter. I spent 50 years of my life fighting for civil rights and for dignity," he said then. "But if you don't want me to be here, that's OK. I don't want to out-scream people."

Sanders has started to address race issues more than he did at the start of his campaign, but he still regularly frames issues of race and inequality as economic matters, arguing that the key to combating racial disparities is by raising wages and increasing opportunities.

Bernie Sanders Black Lives Matter: Protesters disrupt - CNNPolitics.com

I think you should be all for Bernie again. He doesn't see the issue as diversity. And the solution as tolerance. He sees the issue as an economic one, the haves and the have nots. I like that philosophy. If you don't want me to be here , that's OK. I like that message too.

Bernie is a commie. That makes him the enemy of American values. He is also a loonie toon. It stands to reason that liberals would endorse him.

Guest 03-12-2016 05:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197260)
The real threat to this nation is liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.
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Amazing! The pledge of allegiance to the American flag by schoolkids is really just a rote exercise and has no meaning to them. Also, if foreign students are in that class, why would they be forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag? Basically, it is a worthless exercise for kids. I have never heard of an "international flag pledge".

Regarding the white men are evil diatribe. Look at the Spanish conquistidores, the Western expansion of the USA called "Manifest Destiny", the imprisoning of Japanese US citizens during WWII just to name a few. Lots of evil things have happened but schools also teach what achievements have occurred.

No, hetrosexual behavior is not evil but what is evil is the intolerance toward the LBGT community by hetrosexuals. They deserve ALL the human dignity and civil rights as hetrosexuals.

Finally, white privilege does not exist ANYMORE. You obviously have never gotten over the fact that a Black man is the leader of the USA and was elected to office TWICE! The next leader will be a woman. This is the 21st century. Deal with it![/QUOTE]

Dear Guest:

Your comments make my argument regarding the pledge of allegiance to the American flag when you dismiss it out of hand. It tells me you just might not hold America in high regard? You may not recognized the many men and women who gave treasure and blood to permit you to openly blog your thoughts on this forum? Men and women who proudly display their flags on their lapels in their yards over the caskets of their deceased

As to pledging allegiance to an international flag a PSC school in New York did just that took an American flag and pasted foreign flags on it stripes and made the kids in that school pledge to an international flag. You apparently do not know how dangerous an act that is because your not following its intent to its illogical conclusion. and because you may not be aware that many progressives are aiming for an international community. Perhaps you may recognize one name Obama

As you point out men/women do bad things have and always will but America is the one place where such injustices are eventually reconciled.
You also omit that your judgment of these matters is based on today's political environment. I am of American Italian descent yet while my father and Uncles (1st generation) fought in WWII there had been an early attempt to place Italians along with Germans and Japanese in such camps.
They were the enemy then. There was confusion paranoia Pearl Harbor German U boats entering American ports. Many Japanese and Germans regret what their forefather wrought

Have you ever heard one Italian complain. Italian like many Europeans faced prejudice when immigrating here but turned their fruits of labor to purpose and not claiming civil rights but earning their way to community.

Your comments regarding white privilege ring out your inner hatred of white men. I say this because I wrote that devious people invented white/heterosexual privilege as a means to divide. Its why liberal universities offer multicultural class rather than the classics.

Liberals want to remake history and they ignore all the good beginning with the founders to present day.

IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES THEY SAY THERE IS NO PAST BECAUSE THEY KEEP CHANGING IT.

NOW THEY SAY IN AMERICA THERE WILL BE NO PAST BECAUSE THEY KEEP CHANGING IT

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 03-12-2016 08:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197310)
A Republican friend threw this by me today. Does this have wings?

Obama doesn't like Hillary, and doesn't want Sanders as the Democratic nominee. So, he will not stop the legal charges that will be brought against Hillary. The super delegates will vote for Joe Biden in the first round. This will ensure that Hillary doesn't have enough delegates in the first round. This will cause a brokered convention. Since legal action will turn off most of the delegates Hillary won in the primaries, they will vote for Biden in the second round, and he will have enough delegates to be the Democratic nominee.

This might have been the plan along. Biden didn't have the people in place to run a winnable campaign. This is a way that he, and Obama got around it. He get the nomination without the fight.

You should write fiction novels, your post shows your very good at it.

Guest 03-12-2016 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1197448]Amazing! The pledge of allegiance to the American flag by schoolkids is really just a rote exercise and has no meaning to them. Also, if foreign students are in that class, why would they be forced to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag?

Dear Guest:

Your comments make my argument regarding the pledge of allegiance to the American flag when you dismiss it out of hand. It tells me you just might not hold America in high regard? You may not recognized the many men and women who gave treasure and blood to permit you to openly blog your thoughts on this forum? Men and women who proudly display their flags on their lapels in their yards over the caskets of their deceased

As to pledging allegiance to an international flag a PSC school in New York did just that took an American flag and pasted foreign flags on it stripes and made the kids in that school pledge to an international flag. You apparently do not know how dangerous an act that is because your not following its intent to its illogical conclusion. and because you may not be aware that many progressives are aiming for an international community. Perhaps you may recognize one name Obama

As you point out men/women do bad things have and always will but America is the one place where such injustices are eventually reconciled.
You also omit that your judgment of these matters is based on today's political environment. I am of American Italian descent yet while my father and Uncles (1st generation) fought in WWII there had been an early attempt to place Italians along with Germans and Japanese in such camps.
They were the enemy then. There was confusion paranoia Pearl Harbor German U boats entering American ports.

Liberals want to remake history and they ignore all the good beginning with the founders to present.

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You read only what you wanted to read. I said the plesge of allegiance to young schoolkids is a rote act of recitation. To have them say it without any meaning does not mean a thing. Also, foreign kids in the class should not be forced to pledge allegiance to our flag.

It sounds as though you would like to place all Muslims, non-whites, and the LBGT's in concentration camps.

You had better find that cabin in the wilderness to spend your final days.

The next President of the USA will be progressive and not a regressive like you want. Deal with it. You are no longer relevant.

Guest 03-12-2016 09:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197414)
Saul Alinsky was a facinating person. He was kind to everyone and generous to a fault. Saul had a great sense of humor. He was a very spiritual person, too. Saul believed that no one should be suffering and did his best to level the playing field of life.

I am very fortunate to have had him as a teacher and was able to call him a friend. I miss Saul very much.

Pick one:

1) you are an idiot
2) you are demented
3) you are a troll
4) all of the above

In any case, GET HELP!!!

Guest 03-12-2016 10:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197121)
I just wrote the RNC explaining to them that for the first time in my adult life I am waiving my right to cast a vote in either the primary race and the general election. My reasons are as follows.

There is not one candidate in either party that is qualified to hold this office.

On the Democrat side the choice is either a communist or a crook. Worse yet this crook is allowed to continue her campaign gaining support when on the face of the allegation against her is at minimum incompetence and garners great mistrust. As new releases continue its obvious this candidate used a personal server to hide her work product and more importantly her dealing via Clinton Foundation (her personal SuperPac) and dealings with foreign governments while serving as Secretary of State. If she is allowed to continue it is sending a signal to the world that the US government is as corrupt as any third world power.

As to the RNC beside the fact that no candidate is qualified the RNC and GOP power brokers are telling voters that their opinions don't matter.
The RNC and GOP power brokers demanded, at the first presidential debate, that all GOP candidates pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee and also pledge not to go third party. So Trump begins to crush the competition and what do these power brokers from GOP do, work toward defeating Trump and threatening to have their candidate go third party.
I am not a Trump supporter but up until now I believed in the process. No longer its rigged

The real threat to this nation is not ISIS it is corrupt politician, its liberal educational institutions that are teaching our kids that capitalism is evil, that white men are evil and that socialism rules and that we should not pledge allegiance to the American flag but to an international flag. Its an Administration that has destroyed our military with his social lab experiments and now we find an indoctrination program wherein white privilege and heterosexual privilege are the enemy.

Do you see where is is going? I do and I am thoroughly disgusted.

Personal Best Regards:

That "communist" is no such thing. He is merely parroting the thoughts and actions of one of our best presidents ever, FDR. FDR was seriously no communist.

Guest 03-12-2016 10:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1197448)

Liberals want to remake history and they ignore all the good beginning with the founders to present day.


And conservatives want to return to an America that never really existed.


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