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Chatbrat 04-05-2016 04:30 AM

Dumbest People In a Golf Crt
 
As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

redwitch 04-05-2016 06:27 AM

So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

Chatbrat 04-05-2016 06:47 AM

Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-05-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1208763)
So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

I agree. I don't think that we should go around yelling at people and trying to push our beliefs onto others.

First of all, it won't change anyone's behavior. Secondly, it's liable to cause more serious confrontation.

These people were not breaking any law. If they were you should have called the police.

What's next, are we going to yell at people who have their ten year old on the back of a motorcycle because we think that it's dangerous?

outlaw 04-05-2016 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208770)
Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood

Sad. I can only imagine what those parents/grandparents must be going through for the rest of their lives. "If only I would have..."

graciegirl 04-05-2016 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208770)
Children have to be secured in a child seat in a car. And a child did die when the golf cart turned over & the child hit the curb-best kept secret in the Villages it happened several years ago-corner of St.Charles & Buttonwood



No.

Chatbrat 04-05-2016 07:09 AM

The Daily Sun-said if you have infants & small children as guests-TAKE THE CAR

When we lived on our boat and cruised for six years we witnessed many tragedies-like three men getting swept over a dam in Canada, a child who was bow riding & got tossed of a boat,

The founder of the Bone Fish Grill was killed when he was tossed from his boat in Tampa Bay--his body was never found.

Whats wrong with giving someone a heads up?

When I was in business, the most important thing I could be proud of was, none of my employees got injured while working for me,

graciegirl 04-05-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208780)
The Daily Sun-said if you have infants & small children as guests-TAKE THE CAR

When we lived on our boat and cruised for six years we witnessed many tragedies-like three men getting swept over a dam in Canada, a child who was bow riding & got tossed of a boat,

The founder of the Bone Fish Grill was killed when he was tossed from his boat in Tampa Bay--his body was never found.

Whats wrong with giving someone a heads up?

When I was in business, the most important thing I could be proud of was, none of my employees got injured while working for me,




It is a regional thing. Only folks raised in certain areas of the country are not annoyed when someone tells them how to do things.


Ohio people would not invite you to their next hamburger fry.

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 07:22 AM

Golf cart deaths more common than thought | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune

Just doing some research.

I am with Redwitch though that telling someone in a golf cart like this would probably just make them defensive and not get them to change their behavior in the least. Maybe, getting more people to read TOTV though might help them with some safety precautions.

I remember those left turns in the golf cart and how hard I had staying in when a neighbor was driving a little too fast for my comfort. I could just put my feet down though hard and stay in the golf cart.

graciegirl 04-05-2016 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1208788)
Golf cart deaths more common than thought | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune

Just doing some research.

I am with Redwitch though that telling someone in a golf cart like this would probably just make them defensive and not get them to change their behavior in the least. Maybe, getting more people to read TOTV though might help them with some safety precautions.

I remember those left turns in the golf cart and how hard I had staying in when a neighbor was driving a little too fast for my comfort. I could just put my feet down though hard and stay in the golf cart.



You are right and so is Chatbrat. Some people have the diplomacy to tell people to go to hell and make them look forward to the trip.

dewilson58 04-05-2016 07:30 AM

I've seen the same stupidity. I've bit my lip and didn't say anything. Then I pray I don't read about the child in the next 48 hours.

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1208792)
You are right and so is Chatbrat. Some people have the diplomacy to tell people to go to hell and make them look forward to the trip.

That's true. I have met some law students who could tell you that the sky is red all the time and you might eventually believe them if you do not look outside. Same with some sales people I have come across.

Charm and good story telling will change people's attitudes and behavior quicker than rudeness though.

I do believe that suggestions like this would work in certain parts of the country like the Twin Cities but probably not with many New Yorkers at least not with the many New Yorkers I have met here in the Villages and in Palm Harbor. There are exceptions of course. A native Minnesotan who moved to New York and now lives in the Villages, maybe.

flyerguy 04-05-2016 07:37 AM

Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.

graciegirl 04-05-2016 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 1208798)
Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.



If there was a law passed, some folks would ignore it. I think that they think the slow speed makes it safer.

Chatbrat 04-05-2016 07:44 AM

Basic physics-20 lbs, @ 20 mph= 400 lbs weight--

Who do you know who can hold 400 lbs ?

Walter123 04-05-2016 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1208763)
So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

You and anyone else who thinks chatbrat should MYOB can keep your heads in the sand. Sooner of later you'll run out of oxygen.

Chatbrat, you were right to say something to them, maybe they will rethink their actions and save their children from a serious possible injury.

Challenger 04-05-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 1208798)
Based on the OP's description, I believe this is a bone head act by the golf cart owner. Those small tykes are unprotected and subject to severe injuries. However, with that said, I don't believe yelling instructions and your disproval of their actions will accomplish anything. Unless it's unlawful we can just hope for the best and pray that those kids aren't hurt.

If your child is not properly secured in your auto, it's against the law, endangering the life of a child. Why shouldn't it be the same or even more strict for a golf cart.

Especially when riding in diamond lanes

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 07:58 AM

http://www.nmb.us/files/pdf/uploads/...20Revision.pdf

I did find this interesting. It is golf carts rules for Myrtle Beach, SC.

One of the rules:

Quote:

Do not carry children or
animals on your lap while operating
a golf cart.

SCasey 04-05-2016 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1208763)
So, what do you yell at people in cars with children? Have not heard of one incident where a child has died in a golf cart accident here. Children die in cars daily. Yes, golf carts can be dangerous and fatalities have occurred while being in one. However, if driven safely, carefully and sanely, the risks are not that high. Maybe you should try the MYOB rule and not be so quick to try and wreck other people's pleasure.

As a former Firefighter/EMT, I can say I have never taken a dead child out of a car seat. I believe the OP meant to imply the child would be properly secured in the car. I cannot believe how many times I see people transporting their babies in what I call "the baby crusher position". Once the vehicle (car or golf cart) stops abruptly, whatever you are carrying between your body and the dashboard is going to be crushed.

Chatbrat 04-05-2016 07:59 AM

Finally the unnamed online newspaper, could start posting pictures of unsafe acts in golf carts, instead of bad parking pics

Jima64 04-05-2016 08:02 AM

Did they hear all you said.
 
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208738)
As we were pulling thru the St. James gate yesterday-a golf cart was waiting to cross . This is the layout--Grandma driving-daughter holding a 3 month old on her right-son- in -law in the rear seat holding two under 2 infants one in each arm.

I shouted if anything goes wrong those kids are going to get hurt @ best. My wife said-hope you guys are real strong.

If you got guests with infants leave the cart home--use your Car--the infants will never know what they were riding in.

Hopefully they heard all you said and it makes them thank about the possible tragedy that could happen. Too often it becomes a testosterone yelling match of egos.

asianthree 04-05-2016 08:02 AM

when I see children in golf carts unprotected I wonder all day if they made their destination safely. We only have three grands and none to spare to an accident

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208817)
Finally the unnamed online newspaper, could start posting pictures of unsafe acts in golf carts, instead of bad parking pics

They have a story of a dog that was in a golf cart, saw something interesting to chase, jumped out, and got run over by the dog owners' golf cart. Or something like that.

Chellybean 04-05-2016 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1208803)
Basic physics-20 lbs, @ 20 mph= 400 lbs weight--

Who do you know who can hold 400 lbs ?

Perfect Analogy.
CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 08:06 AM

https://youtu.be/Z3pIKd-wMDY

Hope this works.

flyerguy 04-05-2016 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1208800)
If there was a law passed, some folks would ignore it. I think that they think the slow speed makes it safer.

Yes, that's probably true, but it would be enforceable.

asianthree 04-05-2016 08:18 AM

Have seen small dog thrown from cart on a sharp turn. Owner didn't even know till people started yelling at her.

RickeyD 04-05-2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1208786)
It is a regional thing. Only folks raised in certain areas of the country are not annoyed when someone tells them how to do things.


Ohio people would not invite you to their next hamburger fry.



Sorry, O-hi-o doesn't have the exclusive right to tell a stranger to mind your business. Think, 13 original colony's.

dbussone 04-05-2016 09:00 AM

You have to wonder how some of these folks have escaped the gene pool's efforts to self correct for whatever gene is responsible for lack of common sense.

Taltarzac725 04-05-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1208876)
You have to wonder how some of these folks have escaped the gene pool's efforts to self correct for whatever gene is responsible for lack of common sense.

They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

Fred R 04-05-2016 09:07 AM

I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.

Walter123 04-05-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1208882)
I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.

I understand what you're saying but you are an adult and can make your own choices. No one but you are responsible for your choice to not wear a helmet.The woman yelling at you should have known that and should have kept quite
Little children and animals depend on adults to make the right choice for them except in Ohio I guess. Did you know they fry hamburgers there? I didn't!

Jim 9922 04-05-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1208882)
I've noticed a reoccurring theme as I read many posts on these sites. Whenever some sees something they don't like their first reaction is to suggest that someone pass a law to prohibit it. Does this really make sense? Some folks just want the right to do stupid things. I'm not sure legislation would ever stop that. For instance, last month I'm riding my motorcycle back from the store. I pull up to the gate and some gal behind me starts screaming at me, "where is your helmet, where is your helmet". She yells at me all the way down Chula Vista. I think she needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples,,,especially mine.



Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.

Fred R 04-05-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1208888)
I understand what you're saying but you are an adult and can make your own choices. No one but you are responsible for your choice to not wear a helmet.The woman yelling at you should have known that and should have kept quite
Little children and animals depend on adults to make the right choice for them except in Ohio I guess. Did you know they fry hamburgers there? I didn't!

You are correct about adults need to make smart choices when it comes to children. Yes, I know about the hamburger thing. Fact is, I've fried many in my day, but not to folks who would cream at me riding down the road. LOL
I hear some folks fry hamburgers in other states too.

graciegirl 04-05-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1208894)
Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.



I am going to print this and frame it. I will hang it right next to the picture of my sweetie frying hamburgers.

maureenod 04-05-2016 10:06 AM

Yes, adults can do whatever they want, however, when it comes to the safety of children, that's another story. I definitely would have done what the OP did, maybe they would wake up.

graciegirl 04-05-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by maureenod (Post 1208902)
Yes, adults can do whatever they want, however, when it comes to the safety of children, that's another story. I definitely would have done what the OP did, maybe they would wake up.



You see this is the difference in what our mothers told us to do. Some mothers would have yelled it out. Some mothers would have smacked you for yelling it out.


I don't disagree with protecting children, but perhaps this discussion will be read by someone who will pause in allowing their golf cart to be driven by someone who is too young or by someone who might endanger their grandchildren.


It is a cultural difference we are discussing on whether it would help to yell out a criticism. Whether it would make them think, or just **** them off.


On that we can argue all day. I doubt if many would disagree that what Chatbrat saw was dangerous. And few would not have cared. It is how to change it and how far we would go to make laws that have to be followed. It is a basic difference that many of us feel about how far we should go to make something illegal. It sure as heck hasn't helped having laws when it comes to stopping illegal drugs and that issue is terribly dangerous and destroying society as we knew it as children.

2BNTV 04-05-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1208894)
Some people climb mountains, some ski race downhill at breakneck speed, some kids climb tall trees and play on old fashion monkey bars, some people drive cars with bald tires, and maybe text at the same time, some scuba dive under water, some fly small planes through thunder storms, or sky dive out of perfectly good planes, or fly ultra lights with chain saw motors, some people continue to smoke, some overeat and are overweight, etc., etc. It is their choice. If you want to live in a highly regulated and controlled society consider moving to North Korea, or some such place.

Very good post. :smiley:

Some people get to be older by not doing too many dumb things and some do not. :D

Mleeja 04-05-2016 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1208880)
They are probably very unfamiliar with golf carts in a setting other than golf courses.

Can you see getting around in a golf cart in the streets of Columbus, Ohio; New York City; Tampa; Las Vegas, or how about Los Angeles?

Before I retired and moved to TV there were many times I was sitting in Indianapolis rush hour traffic thinking I could be going faster in a golf cart!

red tail 04-05-2016 11:51 AM

where are these people from that run around yelling at people and blowing their horns when they don't like something?


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