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Guest 06-11-2016 07:13 PM

Bigots in The Villages
 
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

Guest 06-11-2016 08:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

I don't think about it. I gave up long ago trying to get inside people's heads. My experience has been that when I do, I usually find them to be empty.

Guest 06-11-2016 08:48 PM

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I don't think about it. I gave up long ago trying to get inside people's heads. My experience has been that when I do, I usually find them to be empty.

What is funny, if this is the internet I grew up with. The poster is probably a nice guy...but, being as this OP has such a burr in his panties it is just fun to hope the OP has a stroke from his high blood pressure and letting a stranger on the internet make him look like an idiot.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/4899000/...f10e3605d8.jpg

Guest 06-11-2016 09:19 PM

Probably just a troll having a lot of fun like Donald Trump himself.

Guest 06-11-2016 09:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

I think that by talking about him, you are encouraging him. There is no law against being a bigot, so if he is ill mannered, that is his problem.

Guest 06-12-2016 03:52 AM

Maybe this helps:

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big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots

a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

As is typical, far too many discuss a subject without knowledge of meaning.

Guest 06-12-2016 04:01 AM

Full Definition of bigot

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

The LBGT community is also a group.

To call bigotry bad manners is saying it's only a little hatred and a little intolerance.

Guest 06-12-2016 04:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239669)
Full Definition of bigot

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

The LBGT community is also a group.

To call bigotry bad manners is saying it's only a little hatred and a little intolerance.

NOPE!!! That is the "Adjusted" definition made up just for modern cry babies. Much like the word "faggot" has a brand new (in the past decade) definition of more than what was in the slang verbiage. Entomology is a female dog is it not? Seems to me, the one we KNOW is a bigot is the Anti-Trump yahoo...the other guy is probably just blowing on the little spark of life that is the OP. :spoken:


Bigot

BIG'OT, noun

1. A person who is obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular religious creed, opinion, practice or ritual. The word is sometimes used in an enlarged sense, for a person who is illiberally attached to any opinion, or system of belief; as a bigot to the Mohammedan religion; a bigot to a form of government.

2. A venetian liquid measure containing the fourth part of the amphor, or half the boot.

BIG'OT

Guest 06-12-2016 04:10 AM

And as in most "groups" there is a minority that feels obligated to magnify, call attention to and in everybody's face about their what ever and their need for the spotlight.

As a result the majority of members, let's refer to them as the silent majority in this case, suffer the tar brushing.

As in all silent majorities, they get what they deserve.

Guest 06-12-2016 04:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239671)
NOPE!!! That is the "Adjusted" definition made up just for modern cry babies. Much like the word "faggot" has a brand new (in the past decade) definition of more than what was in the slang verbiage. Entomology is a female dog is it not? Seems to me, the one we KNOW is a bigot is the Anti-Trump yahoo...the other guy is probably just blowing on the little spark of life that is the OP. :spoken:


Bigot

BIG'OT, noun

1. A person who is obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular religious creed, opinion, practice or ritual. The word is sometimes used in an enlarged sense, for a person who is illiberally attached to any opinion, or system of belief; as a bigot to the Mohammedan religion; a bigot to a form of government.

2. A venetian liquid measure containing the fourth part of the amphor, or half the boot.

BIG'OT

Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Online Edition
Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - bigot

Words evolve. This definition predates the civil war. Label someone a bigot and see how warmly they are treated by the group they hate. Try explaining to the hated group you are using the word as it was understood in 1828. That will work.

Guest 06-12-2016 05:01 AM

Today's new and improved definitions:

Liberal: Libtard socialist

Guest 06-12-2016 05:05 AM

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Today's new and improved definitions:

Liberal: Libtard socialist

Exactly. The hard truth of the matter is gays in particular have no skin in the game. Blacks do.

I can tell from across the room if someone is black. BUT, if you do not TELL me you are gay (and are not more feminine than a school girl)...I CANT TELL.

Best way to not have your deviant sex used as a tool to judge you...DONT TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! I hold those who do to the same standard as adults who pick their nose and eat it. They are typically low self esteem attention whores.

Guest 06-12-2016 06:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

What all 7 of them who live in the villages?

The demographics is what makes TV such a wonderful place. The day the minority population begins to rise is the day TV turns to crap like everywhere else they congregate.

A bigot has no "reason" for their views...there are PLENTY of reasons to be a bigot against minorities. They really do destroy an area when their numbers become too large. Show me ANYPLACE it doesn't happen...just one. No, I'm no bigot, I'm pragmatic trying to save my country from a literal minority invasion.

Guest 06-12-2016 06:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

What you call a bigot...is just someone who doesn't agree with YOU. They think you're the "bigot" because you fail/refuse to see their view.

That's the problem when everyone in society is lied to by government, politicians, corporations, religions, education, and just about everyone you meet.

People get the strangest ideas about reality when they're constantly lied to. No wonder so many need psychotropic drugs.

Guest 06-12-2016 06:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239703)
What you call a bigot...is just someone who doesn't agree with YOU. They think you're the "bigot" because you fail/refuse to see their view.

That's the problem when everyone in society is lied to by government, politicians, corporations, religions, education, and just about everyone you meet.

People get the strangest ideas about reality when they're constantly lied to. No wonder so many need psychotropic drugs.

:coolsmiley::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::coolsmiley::a gree:

Guest 06-12-2016 07:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

You know...every society throughout history has had the same opinion of them, has treated them the same as we did, up until mechanization made them obsolete in the 1800s.

They never did prosper, still don't, no matter where in the world.

It's them...not us.

Forced equality is a fools errand. It will lead to our downfall.

When there's good reason, it's not bigotry. You hate murderers, you're not a bigot. You hate pedophiles, you're not a bigot. You hate the way America is becoming 3rd world, you're not a bigot. You hate that the educational system is failing, we're #17 now, you're not a bigot. You hate that half the population is on welfare, you're not a bigot. You have reason to hate what the people who are destroying America are doing.

We hate what they do, not "who they are". If black people lived like us, spoke like us, acted like us, we'd accept them. We've accepted other races, Asians are accepted, Indians, even blacks and Hispanics who "fit in" are accepted. It's when EVERYTHING about you is different, that's when you're not accepted. Most blacks don't "fit in", they're "different", that's why they're not accepted. NO other reason.

You don't hang out with EVERYONE. You pick your friends through shared interests and ideologies. People who are too "different" aren't your friends. Same way with the races, if they're "too different" they don't get along. We're too different to get along. Lincoln said it too.

There are reasons a lot of us think what we do about the races. Stereotypes exist because they're generally true. How many "good" stereotypes are there about blacks? Good at athletics and music. Because that IS what they're good at. Like Asian kids ARE good a math.

The forced mixing isn't good for any of us.

Guest 06-12-2016 07:09 AM

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Best way to not have your deviant sex used as a tool to judge you...DONT TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! ....They are typically low self esteem attention whores.

:agree:

The 3.6% of the population that are "limp wrist pecker puffers" and "lesbo bull dikes" need to just SHUT UP! The 96.4% of normal people do not want to be bothered with the demands of these freaks of nature.

Guest 06-12-2016 07:21 AM

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:agree:

The 3.6% of the population that are "limp wrist pecker puffers" and "lesbo bull dikes" need to just SHUT UP! The 96.4% of normal people do not want to be bothered with the demands of these freaks of nature.

PRINCETON, N.J. -- The American public estimates on average that 23% of Americans are gay or lesbian, little changed from Americans' 25% estimate in 2011, and only slightly higher than separate 2002 estimates of the gay and lesbian population. These estimates are many times higher than the 3.8% of the adult population who identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in Gallup Daily tracking in the first four months of this year.

that's interesting
Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.

Guest 06-12-2016 07:29 AM

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:agree:

The 3.6% of the population that are "limp wrist pecker puffers" and "lesbo bull dikes" need to just SHUT UP! The 96.4% of normal people do not want to be bothered with the demands of these freaks of nature.

I know...what's up the the "look at me! I'm ODD!" bit?

Like being proud of being dyslexic, having a phobia, being bipolar...yes, you're unfortunate, we feel sorry for you, but we DON'T need to know all about your life and how GREAT it is to be afflicted.

Guest 06-12-2016 07:36 AM

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PRINCETON, N.J. -- The American public estimates on average that 23% of Americans are gay or lesbian, little changed from Americans' 25% estimate in 2011, and only slightly higher than separate 2002 estimates of the gay and lesbian population. These estimates are many times higher than the 3.8% of the adult population who identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender in Gallup Daily tracking in the first four months of this year.

that's interesting
Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.

Because they make so much noise about it. People can't imagine that they're only 4%...if that.

Guest 06-12-2016 08:37 AM

Take it easy Archie Bunker.

Guest 06-12-2016 08:47 AM

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Take it easy Archie Bunker.

Archie is/was right about a LOT of things...they used comedy to tell you the truth. George Carlin did it too. You should listen to them...both.

Guest 06-12-2016 09:58 AM

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Because they make so much noise about it. People can't imagine that they're only 4%...if that.

It's the same with the NRA. Think about all the press it gets. What percentage of Americans are members of the NRA? I looked it up.

Guest 06-12-2016 11:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239597)
I truly wonder if the person with his bigoted views on the Political Forum is pullling our joint legs OR if he actally is such a throwback to Jim Crow days?

From what I have seen in the several years I have in The Villages, everyone gets along good in social or sport events. The clubs have different races attending, social groups are of different races, BUT there is ONE person who posts bigoted comments whenever possible.

What do the rest of you Political posters think of this? Do you feel there is the genuine hatred of this person as an underlying aspect of The Villages?

Probably a paid Hillary Clinton supporter trying to stir things up

Guest 06-12-2016 12:41 PM

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Archie is/was right about a LOT of things...they used comedy to tell you the truth. George Carlin did it too. You should listen to them...both.

Norman Lear wrote the character to be a fearful fool.
click here for a link
Norman Lear on the Story Behind Archie Bunker – SuperSoul.tv

Q: You're known as a very liberal comic. Are you trying to change people's political views when you go out there? Do you have an underlying agenda?

A: No. First of all, I'm not liberal. I'm just about (being) anti-United States. I don't like the way this country operates. I think we've ruined this place. And I think it's largely because of businessmen. And businessmen are not liberals. So if that makes me a liberal, then that's just an association. It's not a choice. ...

I do not care about changing anybody. Nobody. I go out there to show the rest of the Americans how badly they're doing. This country has been, for about 180 years now, badly mishandled. And it's been in the wrong hands. It's been in the hands of the business interests.

And a lot of the beauty of this country has been shattered by them. The physical beauty and the kind of institutional beauty that was originally built into this place - this experiment, this magnificent experiment in democracy is just being shredded to pieces by these right-wing Christians, the Ashcroft branch of Republicanism. (They're) just shredding the rest of the Bill of Rights which hadn't been shredded already. (But) they'd been doing a pretty good job on it up until then, anyway.

Guest 06-12-2016 12:42 PM

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Norman Lear wrote the character to be a fearful fool.
click here for a link
Norman Lear on the Story Behind Archie Bunker – SuperSoul.tv

Q: You're known as a very liberal comic. Are you trying to change people's political views when you go out there? Do you have an underlying agenda?

A: No. First of all, I'm not liberal. I'm just about (being) anti-United States. I don't like the way this country operates. I think we've ruined this place. And I think it's largely because of businessmen. And businessmen are not liberals. So if that makes me a liberal, then that's just an association. It's not a choice. ...

I do not care about changing anybody. Nobody. I go out there to show the rest of the Americans how badly they're doing. This country has been, for about 180 years now, badly mishandled. And it's been in the wrong hands. It's been in the hands of the business interests.

And a lot of the beauty of this country has been shattered by them. The physical beauty and the kind of institutional beauty that was originally built into this place - this experiment, this magnificent experiment in democracy is just being shredded to pieces by these right-wing Christians, the Ashcroft branch of Republicanism. (They're) just shredding the rest of the Bill of Rights which hadn't been shredded already. (But) they'd been doing a pretty good job on it up until then, anyway.

I pushed enter too soon. The Q & A's are with George Carlin.

Guest 06-13-2016 06:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1239876)
Norman Lear wrote the character to be a fearful fool.
click here for a link
Norman Lear on the Story Behind Archie Bunker – SuperSoul.tv

Supersoul TV? The BLACK web site owned by Oprah?

Talk about propaganda.

Archie was warning you that EVERYTHING was changing...and NOT for the better.

NOBODY thinks things are better today than they were 50-60 years ago. Well, maybe the 50% of minorities collecting welfare equal to $60,000 a year.

Guest 06-13-2016 06:49 AM

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Maybe this helps:

Search Results
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots

a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

As is typical, far too many discuss a subject without knowledge of meaning.

Typical bigot, you post that which is to your thinking, disregarding other.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary

"Simple Definition of bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)"

Guest 06-13-2016 07:10 AM

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Supersoul TV? The BLACK web site owned by Oprah?

Talk about propaganda.

Archie was warning you that EVERYTHING was changing...and NOT for the better.

NOBODY thinks things are better today than they were 50-60 years ago. Well, maybe the 50% of minorities collecting welfare equal to $60,000 a year.

Archie is a tv character not a person.

Norman Lear originally intended that Bunker be strongly disliked by audiences. Lear was shocked when Bunker quietly became a beloved figure to much of middle America. Lear thought that Bunker's opinions on race, sex, marriage, and religion were so wrong as to represent a parody of right wing bigotry.
Archie Bunker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guest 06-13-2016 07:47 AM

Archer Bunker is running for President. At least, a very stupid version of him in Donald Trump.

Guest 06-13-2016 08:28 AM

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Take it easy Archie Bunker.

Archie Bunker ? Archie Bunker !

WOW ! What an original and insightful response !

So original ! Just amazing !

No one ever has come up with that one before !

Way to tell`em !!

Guest 06-13-2016 08:34 AM

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Archie is a tv character not a person.

Norman Lear originally intended that Bunker be strongly disliked by audiences. Lear was shocked when Bunker quietly became a beloved figure to much of middle America. Lear thought that Bunker's opinions on race, sex, marriage, and religion were so wrong as to represent a parody of right wing bigotry.
Archie Bunker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He's written to be a person.

Norman Lear can think what he wants, he can tell a reporter...anything, true or not. Norman Lear obviously didn't know the average American. He was wrong.

There is a REASON why most Americans are "bigots". They drive down the street, they see what "diversity" has wrought upon neighborhoods. They see what "diversity" has done to schools. They see what "diversity" has done to their workplace. They see what diversity had done to our culture, society, welfare roles.

Tell me why we're wrong to not want this to happen to us? Our neighborhood turned from wonderful to woeful? Our school turned from #1 to #17? Our workload increases because of the dead wood EEO laws create with affirmative action and quotas? Why we're wrong to be against the "ethnicization" of our culture, society? Against the number on the roles ever going up? Against the nonconformity?

You ask a lot from us.

Guest 06-13-2016 08:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1240310)
He's written to be a person.

Norman Lear can think what he wants, he can tell a reporter...anything, true or not. Norman Lear obviously didn't know the average American. He was wrong.

There is a REASON why most Americans are "bigots". They drive down the street, they see what "diversity" has wrought upon neighborhoods. They see what "diversity" has done to schools. They see what "diversity" has done to their workplace. They see what diversity had done to our culture, society, welfare roles.

Tell me why we're wrong to not want this to happen to us? Our neighborhood turned from wonderful to woeful? Our school turned from #1 to #17? Our workload increases because of the dead wood EEO laws create with affirmative action and quotas? Why we're wrong to be against the "ethnicization" of our culture, society? Against the number on the roles ever going up? Against the nonconformity?

You ask a lot from us.

Norman Lear and his Actor friends NEVER drove down the streets that you did day after day .

The internal " rot " of our society , culture and living conditions NEVER appeared in their little corner of " Ls La Land " .

Guest 06-13-2016 08:54 AM

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What you call a bigot...is just someone who doesn't agree with YOU. They think you're the "bigot" because you fail/refuse to see their view.

That's the problem when everyone in society is lied to by government, politicians, corporations, religions, education, and just about everyone you meet.

People get the strangest ideas about reality when they're constantly lied to. No wonder so many need psychotropic drugs.

Northern Idaho is waiting for you, if whiteville gets to diverse for you.

Guest 06-13-2016 01:21 PM

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It's the same with the NRA. Think about all the press it gets. What percentage of Americans are members of the NRA? I looked it up.

Being gay (and representing 3.8 percent of the population) is not the same as being in a gun club...

I believe the NRA membership is around 4.3 million, that is roughly 2% of the population?

But, the NRA represents or helps all gun owners and 33% of Americans own a gun.

Only 3.8% of Americans are gay...certainly they do not have a gay club that is larger than the NRA, or do you?

Guest 06-13-2016 01:42 PM

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Being gay (and representing 3.8 percent of the population) is not the same as being in a gun club...

I believe the NRA membership is around 4.3 million, that is roughly 2% of the population?

But, the NRA represents or helps all gun owners and 33% of Americans own a gun.

Only 3.8% of Americans are gay...certainly they do not have a gay club that is larger than the NRA, or do you?

Oh no. You called me gay. That's funny.
Did you see my post on how many people believe that 23% of the population is gay?

Why do you think that's so?

Guest 06-13-2016 02:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1240504)
Being gay (and representing 3.8 percent of the population) is not the same as being in a gun club...

I believe the NRA membership is around 4.3 million, that is roughly 2% of the population?

But, the NRA represents or helps all gun owners and 33% of Americans own a gun.

Only 3.8% of Americans are gay...certainly they do not have a gay club that is larger than the NRA, or do you?

"Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today." I guess you are in the minority in your thinking according to this Gallop pole.

Guest 06-13-2016 03:55 PM

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"Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today." I guess you are in the minority in your thinking according to this Gallop pole.

Anybody can find a poll that supports their position on ANYTHING.

Why waste the keystrokes on a group that is by the numbers insignificant and by the morals of most .....just not right no matter how it is presented!!

Guest 06-13-2016 04:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1240591)
Anybody can find a poll that supports their position on ANYTHING.

Why waste the keystrokes on a group that is by the numbers insignificant and by the morals of most .....just not right no matter how it is presented!!

I stick with the Pew Research Center. I didn't know you could get polls to support anything.

I enjoy hearing from the kinder posters. If my dad said so and so had a big heart, all other faults were forgiven, money or education never mattered. My kids picked up on that too.

Guest 06-13-2016 04:27 PM

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"Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today." I guess you are in the minority in your thinking according to this Gallop pole.

" Gallop Pole " What kind of a pole is that --- for climbing or fishing ?

I think you meant " Gallup Poll " .


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