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cms36 06-21-2016 02:17 PM

Resident of The Villages charged with shooting into neighbor's home
 
Resident of The Villages charged with shooting into neighbor's home - Story | WOFL

john1953 06-21-2016 02:21 PM

A real nut case,glad he's not my neighbor.I like the NO bond.He really does need to stay in jail for awhile

Sandtrap328 06-21-2016 02:56 PM

Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?

I saw a post on another thread that said it is illegal to handle guns while under the influence but did not see that in the charges.

Even IF the lady is granted a permanent restraining order against the perp, she will continue to be in danger from him. The law can only protect her IF he breaks the order and has contact with her. It might be too late for her when police arrive. Even if she buys a gun for protection, she will be living in constant fear of him until he is (if) put in prison. From what we have seen of the slap on the wrist justice in Sumter County, it is a long stretch of the imagination to think he will go to prison.

Topspinmo 06-21-2016 03:34 PM

I doubt defense lawyer will be able to keep out of the big house. IMO by the time his trail is over he will have to sell his house to pay lawyer fees and still get 15 to 20.

Kahuna32162 06-21-2016 03:46 PM

How much closer does this have to get to home? A sig sauer 9 mm semi automatic with clips that held 15 and 20 shots each. Does he have the right to own it, yes. Should he own it NO.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2016 04:00 PM

This does happen every so often in the Villages that there is some kind of shooting incident.

There is something people can do for survivors/victims of this. Bug the local librarians as well as the local law enforcement web-site managers to get links to the National Alliance on Mental Illness along with a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory. You can get these web-sites easily just by Googling but it is a way of public awareness and support of mental health and victim/witness survivor resources available in our Villages' community.

I have been pushing this off-and-on since I came of Talk of the Villages in July 2007 at least with respect to Florida Victim Services Directory.

My brother-in-law Jim became enamored of weapons like this and gradually became more and more mentally ill-- he thought my sister-in-law was an alien-- and eventually shot himself in the head killing himself in November of 2014 in a rural part of Virginia.

I have complicated views on weapons of self-defense but there are some people-- like my late brother-in-law Jim-- who should not have access to guns of any kind. I know that a car/truck is just as deadly a weapon in some situations but some control is better than little.

Also Google Taltarzac725. It should give you some ideas of what more you could do. That's my 224 613 Project. That's something I have been doing since January 1991 and what now I believe is making tremendous strides because a lot of people have had enough and will do anything to get involved as well as with helping the more and more victims and survivors these kind of crimes create.

TNLAKEPANDA 06-21-2016 04:04 PM

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

alwann 06-21-2016 04:11 PM

Oh shoot.
 
Don't overlook the booze. People do strange things when drunk, unrequited lovers especially. America tried banning booze once, but that didn't work. Neither will banning guns. Drunks and crazies will find a way.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1244178)
Don't overlook the booze. People do strange things when drunk, unrequited lovers especially. America tried banning booze once, but that didn't work. Neither will banning guns. Drunks and crazies will find a way.

That's true. But certain kinds of guns should only be in the hands of those well trained to use them who are mentally healthy and also have other controls on them.

I remember when a mentally ill woman drove her car into a crowd in Reno, Nevada during Thanksgiving. Priscilla Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Cannot really stop some people from driving, but we should try that as well.

kstew43 06-21-2016 04:19 PM

Stop and think about what could of happened if she had been at home.........so scary.....the fact that the bullets made it into the kitchen cabinets.....

Kahuna32162 06-21-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1244175)
I would have been firing back. End of problem!

Then you would be in jail too.....and for a long time

Kahuna32162 06-21-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1244175)
I would have been firing back. End of problem!

Just the beginning of your problem, you'd be in jail too for a long time.

Cathy H 06-21-2016 05:02 PM

so many guns. so many annoying neighbors. great second amendment. fire away!

John_W 06-21-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1244132)
Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?...

1) No
2) n/a
3) Yes, if convicted or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetant.

John_W 06-21-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA View Post
I would have been firing back. End of problem!
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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 1244200)
Just the beginning of your problem, you'd be in jail too for a long time.

http://static.lakana.com/media.fox35...646_ver1.0.jpg

You're inside your own home and someone looking like this is firing 33 rounds through your front door. 'stand your ground' 'self-defense', 'home invasion' 'burglar' 'armed robbery', I can think of a whole bunch of reasons why you wouldn't be in jail for a long time.

Chatbrat 06-21-2016 05:58 PM

He is now retired, 3 hots and a cot and a health plan. 25 years minimum. He's gone.

village dreamer 06-21-2016 06:08 PM

33 shots and only 3k in damages.........the front door cost $1800..................

Taltarzac725 06-21-2016 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1244228)
33 shots and only 3k in damages.........the front door cost $1800..................

The worse damages will be to this woman's sense of security in her home. That is priceless.

Bosoxfan 06-21-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1244175)
I would have been firing back. End of problem!

What is this the O.K. Corral? Seniors shooting seniors . Take the guns away from these fools. I believe in the right to bear arms but only to stable minds not any shoot that wants one.

Bosoxfan 06-21-2016 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1244175)
I would have been firing back. End of problem!

What is this the O.K. Corral? Seniors shooting seniors . Take the guns away from these fools. I believe in the right to bear arms but only to stable minds not any shmo that wants one.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-21-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?
No idea if he has a CCW permit and it's irrelevant. If he's found guilty or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetent his right to bear arms will be revoked.

Sandtrap328 06-21-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1244257)
No idea if he has a CCW permit and it's irrelevant. If he's found guilty or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetent his right to bear arms will be revoked.

He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

Topspinmo 06-21-2016 08:26 PM

Guess don't watch Orlando news? Several shooting or gun discharged every day. I'm sure every major city has just as many or more incidents. 33 killed in Chicago and serval more wounded and that don't count the ones that missed on Father's Day weekend and hand guns are outlawed in Chicago. Should be against the law for anybody over 65 to drink alcohol.:beer3::beer3::beer3:

outlaw 06-21-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 1244198)
Then you would be in jail too.....and for a long time

Uh, why would he be in jail too? It's called self defense.

outlaw 06-21-2016 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1244268)
He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

It's very easy to get a gun illegally. Pretty much just like drugs. He will not get his gun back until possibly after the trial; and then, probably never.

Chi-Town 06-21-2016 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1244268)
He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

You are right about posting bond and a long time before a trial. Where does the case stand where a guy shot into a car from his motorcycle on 466? That's heading towards the two year mark.

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Nucky 06-21-2016 09:40 PM

There is a very high probability that if this man was not drinking that the gun and mental issues wouldn't have been magnified to the point of acting out like this. He just flushed his life and ruined the victims life and probably those who are close to her down the drain. For a drink....what a waste and a shame. I hope the lady recovers somehow with professional assistance. The shooter will be dry in jail, but I hope he finds real sobriety while locked up.

CFrance 06-21-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1244219)
http://static.lakana.com/media.fox35...646_ver1.0.jpg

You're inside your own home and someone looking like this is firing 33 rounds through your front door. 'stand your ground' 'self-defense', 'home invasion' 'burglar' 'armed robbery', I can think of a whole bunch of reasons why you wouldn't be in jail for a long time.

Nevertheless, what's she supposed to do? Open the door and fire back? She'd be dead before she got to it.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2016 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1244301)
Nevertheless, what's she supposed to do? Open the door and fire back? She'd be dead before she got to it.

Get behind something metal and big and call 911. Or, run out the back door while calling 911. And hope there are not two people coming at you from different directions.

obxgal 06-21-2016 09:58 PM

According to the paper Sparber and his wife bought their home in The Villages in March 2008.

Not only do I feel bad for is victim by also for his wife. Think I'd be filing for divorce.

CFrance 06-21-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1244303)
Get behind something metal and big and call 911. Or, run out the back door while calling 911. And hope there are not two people coming at you from different directions.

That's another point: She wouldn't know who and how many are out there. I wouldn't go near a window to find out.

Ecuadog 06-21-2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1244276)
... Should be against the law for anybody over 65 to drink alcohol.

Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 1244308)
Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.

Try enforcing that. The lawyers and criminals get rich when you try to ban something like alcohol.

patfla06 06-22-2016 01:37 AM

What a terrifying thing and luckily she wasn't home.

Want to bet he gets probation???

rubicon 06-22-2016 04:00 AM

Temptresses real or imagined have existed since the beginning of mankind. Add booze and an old fool to the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. This has nothing to do with guns. If he didn't have one he would have thrown rocks or something else through her window or it would have gone crashing through her door. Yes indeed he has destroyed a lot of lives with his foolishness.

Out of control libidos have been the bane of humankind in so many ways

redwitch 06-22-2016 05:25 AM

Having a stalker is terrifying. Having a stalker who tries to harm you is truly life changing. You never quit looking over your shoulder. If typical of most stalking cases, this man will get a light sentence with some mandatory counseling. The woman will have a life sentence of fear and worry and therapy will only help a little. She will never feel safe in her home again, no matter where her home is. Been there, done that, can write the book.

graciegirl 06-22-2016 05:28 AM

I hope that this is a good thing in the end. She wasn't harmed and he is arrested. I agree with Redwitch. I hope they throw the book at him. At least he is now known as a danger. His mugshot has been seen.

RickeyD 06-22-2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1244319)
Temptresses real or imagined have existed since the beginning of mankind. Add booze and an old fool to the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. This has nothing to do with guns. If he didn't have one he would have thrown rocks or something else through her window or it would have gone crashing through her door. Yes indeed he has destroyed a lot of lives with his foolishness.



Out of control libidos have been the bane of humankind in so many ways



5 Famous Temptresses of the Bible

rhood 06-22-2016 08:10 AM

i question the sanity of the fools who confronted him when he was armed.

BK001 06-22-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 1244308)
Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.


I "double" that!


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