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goodtimesintv 08-03-2016 06:52 PM

The local other "news online" source has to smear our community more
 
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I told you guys a few months ago that "the other newspaper online" is a tabloid rag, but apparently many of you like the smearing of our community spread across the country to readers who've never even been here.

This (screen shot) showed up in my Facebook news feed because some Friends had clicked "like" long ago to the "newspaper's" website.

Of course letters to the editor should be published. But the editorial lead-in that the "newspaper" added above the photo (starting with 'Kool-Ade' and ending with asking 'Thoughts?') adds more trash to the pitiful cries of the letter writer who was apparently forced to move here at gunpoint, and isn't allowed to move away, either:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...7-34-46-pm-jpg

:ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:

Gpsma 08-03-2016 07:27 PM

Its always good to have a source of healthy criticism.

Fred R 08-03-2016 07:37 PM

I disagree with your assumption. I found this "other news source" by accident several months ago and try to read it every day. I don't see it as bias against the Villages, but I do find more information about crime and vehicle accidents in TV then the Daily Sun. It will publish letters that are critical about topics, especially the recent changes in the health care program, but that is what a credible news source does. Bottom line; I enjoy both sources of information about this lovely place that I wish I could spend more time in.

ColdNoMore 08-03-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1265881)
Its always good to have a source of healthy criticism.

Exactly!

And the fact that they are willing to print 'Letters To The Editor' that may not be all gushing toward The Developer (unlike the Happy Paper)...is actually quite refreshing. :thumbup:

villagerjack 08-03-2016 08:00 PM

I stopped reading that rag a long time ago.,

gerryann 08-03-2016 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1265884)
I disagree with your assumption. I found this "other news source" by accident several months ago and try to read it every day. I don't see it as bias against the Villages, but I do find more information about crime and vehicle accidents in TV then the Daily Sun. It will publish letters that are critical about topics, especially the recent changes in the health care program, but that is what a credible news source does. Bottom line; I enjoy both sources of information about this lovely place that I wish I could spend more time in.

I could not disagree with you more. This "newspaper" is a rag and is TOTALLY against The Villages and trynig to bring it down. Not only is the newspaper junky....but then all day long on Facebook, they repost the garbage again and again. They have had a blast with the "sex on the squares" and all of the other garbage that has gone on here the last few years. They bait folks with their captions. Nasty, nasty new source. You call this credible?? Seriously?

Mleeja 08-03-2016 08:24 PM

I think it would be interesting for people to actually state if they are residents of The Villages when posting comments on this site or the other online news source. I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the negative post and comments come from non-residents. I am a resident.

gerryann 08-03-2016 08:31 PM

I am most definitely a resident. The newspaper is a piece of garbage and I'm surprised anyone thinks otherwise. Reminds me of national inquirer for seniors.

Can't you all see how they accentuate the "historic" side in their articles? I feel bad for folks living there because it is a really nice original area in The Villages and this rag tears it down.

Keep reading ir, but at least recognize it for what it is.....

outlaw 08-03-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1265911)
I could not disagree with you more. This "newspaper" is a rag and is TOTALLY against The Villages and trynig to bring it down. Not only is the newspaper junky....but then all day long on Facebook, they repost the garbage again and again. They have had a blast with the "sex on the squares" and all of the other garbage that has gone on here the last few years. They bait folks with their captions. Nasty, nasty new source. You call this credible?? Seriously?

So it's a rag because it actually has real news about TV; not just the "don't worry, be happy" TV news that the Daily Sun has? It's not "totally against" TV. It is truthful regarding what is going on in TV. You're just not used to that.

gerryann 08-03-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1265923)
So it's a rag because it actually has real news about TV; not just the "don't worry, be happy" TV news that the Daily Sun has? It's not "totally against" TV. It is truthful regarding what is going on in TV. You're just not used to that.

Apparently you aren't on Facebook and see how they repost all of the articles over and over.......the seedier the story, the more they repost.

I'm very "used to" what's going on here. Maybe it's more the way they report it. Most of the news is also reported in the Sun.....it's just reported normally, without all the misspelling and sensationalizing. Sorry, can't convince me that this rag is anything but a trashy mess.

outlaw 08-03-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1265929)
Apparently you aren't on Facebook and see how they repost all of the articles over and over.......the seedier the story, the more they repost.

I'm very "used to" what's going on here. Maybe it's more the way they report it. Most of the news is also reported in the Sun.....it's just reported normally, without all the misspelling and sensationalizing. Sorry, can't convince me that this rag is anything but a trashy mess.

You're right. I am not on Facebook. I grew up. I also subscribe to the Daily Sun. They rarely, if ever, report anything remotely negative having to do with TV. The only negative news in the DS happens far, far away. It's basically a real estate marketing magazine in newspaper format. But if the local online news bothers you so much, quit reading it.

Jayhawk 08-03-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1265874)
I told you guys a few months ago that "the other newspaper online" is a tabloid rag, but apparently many of you like the smearing of our community spread across the country to readers who've never even been here.

This (screen shot) showed up in my Facebook news feed because some Friends had clicked "like" long ago to the "newspaper's" website.

Of course letters to the editor should be published. But the editorial lead-in that the "newspaper" added above the photo (starting with 'Kool-Ade' and ending with asking 'Thoughts?') adds more trash to the pitiful cries of the letter writer who was apparently forced to move here at gunpoint, and isn't allowed to move away, either:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...7-34-46-pm-jpg

:ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:

Agree, it is mainly trash. The may post a photo of a nice sunset, but more often it is negativity. When there is no bad news inside TV, they will go to Ocala, Leesburg, etc. for some nastiness.

I read on here some time ago the person behind the curtain at the other site was previously fired by the Daily Sun. Not sure if true, but if it is, there's your motive.

:boom:

gerryann 08-03-2016 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1265938)
You're right. I am not on Facebook. I grew up. I also subscribe to the Daily Sun. They rarely, if ever, report anything remotely negative having to do with TV. The only negative news in the DS happens far, far away. It's basically a real estate marketing magazine in newspaper format. But if the local online news bothers you so much, quit reading it.

Then give Facebook a chance. You might like it and might find some useful "grownup" information.

Just voicing my opinion of the off line rag. I read it for a laugh.

The " letters to the editor" are by far the most comical.

goodtimesintv 08-03-2016 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1265881)
Its always good to have a source of healthy criticism.

I agree wholeheartedly, and that's why I said in the original post, "Of course letters to the editor should be published".

Any honest person of average intelligence knows what that "Kool-Ade" reference means that they just had to stick in there above the photo.

Trash. Utter trash.

goodtimesintv 08-03-2016 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1265884)
I disagree with your assumption. I found this "other news source" by accident several months ago and try to read it every day. I don't see it as bias against the Villages, but I do find more information about crime and vehicle accidents in TV then the Daily Sun. It will publish letters that are critical about topics, especially the recent changes in the health care program, but that is what a credible news source does. Bottom line; I enjoy both sources of information about this lovely place that I wish I could spend more time in.

I have agreed all along, in the other threads that discussed this seediness they inject, that we need a newspaper with some substance and news of our TV community that is not just "The Happy Paper".

Past discussions on this included the fact that, while crime reports are definitely needed, all the seediest mug shuts available in the vicinity do not have to fill the front page with the creeps, which overshadows articles about normal, decent Villagers doing all kinds of good for the community, the needy, and each other.

Gerry has it right: it's like "national enquirer for seniors".

:ohdear:

goodtimesintv 08-03-2016 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1265912)
I think it would be interesting for people to actually state if they are residents of The Villages when posting comments on this site or the other online news source. I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the negative post and comments come from non-residents. I am a resident.

I am a resident.

That's why I care about the trashing of our community that feeds the ignorance, stereotyping, and prejudice against all the good people who make this the best community we've ever lived in.

It's really the feeding of bigotry and prejudice that bothers me more than the actual seediness they publish. I regularly laugh out loud at the ridiculousness on the tabloids at the checkout counters. But this is about our community and our people who are decent and good citizens.

goodtimesintv 08-03-2016 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1265948)
Agree, it is mainly trash. The may post a photo of a nice sunset, but more often it is negativity. When there is no bad news inside TV, they will go to Ocala, Leesburg, etc. for some nastiness.

I read on here some time ago the person behind the curtain at the other site was previously fired by the Daily Sun. Not sure if true, but if it is, there's your motive.

:boom:

And how about the caption "The Morse Family Starts Ever So Slowly Bleeding You"?!?!?!?!?

:ohdear: :ohdear:

circletrack 08-03-2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1265923)
So it's a rag because it actually has real news about TV; not just the "don't worry, be happy" TV news that the Daily Sun has? It's not "totally against" TV. It is truthful regarding what is going on in TV. You're just not used to that.

The online news has found its niche in sensationalism. And clearly there is an audience for that here in TV (and around the world).

Aside from a few entertainment features here and there, it seems to just be a running police blotter.

The Sun runs all the same crime and crash stories each day in the local news section.

It's all about preference. I'm just not as entertained as some folks about reading the next DUI or petty theft offense.

manaboutown 08-03-2016 10:58 PM

Since I prefer to remain in reality by being informed about all that goes on in the area, the good and the bad, I check the online paper regularly. I want to know about crimes being committed, traffic issues, new construction, etc. The medical column written by a retired physician is informative and worthwhile. The DUI mugshots are priceless! Drunk/drugged drivers are no joke and cause great property damage, injuries and even deaths. The public deserves to see who they are. On a lighter note I have enjoyed the photos of the crappy vehicle parking all around TV. Hopefully the photos will improve parking habits and make The Villages an even nice place to live.

As I see it the paper has no axe to grind one way or the other. The letters to the editor are another matter so I always take them with a grain of salt although I rarely bother reading them.

Barefoot 08-03-2016 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1265959)
I have agreed all along, in the other threads that discussed this seediness they inject, that we need a newspaper with some substance and news of our TV community that is not just "The Happy Paper".

I don't understand why anyone would be upset about a free online newspaper. :confused:
I believe you have to subscribe to receive it. If you joined by accident, it's very easy to cancel your subscription.

goodtimesintv 08-04-2016 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1265971)
I don't understand why anyone would be upset about a free online newspaper. :confused:

I believe you have to subscribe to receive it. If you joined by accident, it's very easy to cancel your subscription.

Wrong. The thing is free, online. No need to pay money for it.

And as I said in the first post, I didn't go there to purposely look at it.

It came into my facebook news feed because a couple of friends had "liked" it awhile ago. The "Kool-Ade", "ever so slowly bleeding you" in the captions by the "news"paper were too noticeable to overlook.

skyking 08-04-2016 04:32 AM

Some of the comments here imply that the editor of this online news tries to paint The Villages in a negative light. I don't see that. It is basically a "police blotter" with the vast majority of information coming from police reports in and around our community. There is not a lot of good news to be found in police reports but they are factual. The Daily Sun reminds me of the regional neighborhood news papers up north. Not much real news, more local features and a vehicle for local advertising.

rubicon 08-04-2016 04:33 AM

The bigger sin is a publication that censure news ,reformats it to their political philosophy, or omits news items entirely.

The publication in question and the ad in particular reference a letter written by a resident expressing his feeling and beliefs. It is the resident's God given right and its base on factual evidence experienced by at least 13,000 other residents.

Freedom of speech is guaranteed to offend someone but its the price we pay for that freedom. What some posters are suggesting here is a restriction on the freedom of speech because its doesn't fit their world view.

you can't hide the truth and the truth will set you free.

Here again is another example of those residents who seem to believe that they have to come to the defense of The Villages when in fact they should be coming to the defense of residents or at least remaining neutral. It just causes one to furrow a brow and scratch the back of the head? My neighbors are important to me not some business entity.

The Villages doesn't need defending they have the high ground they have loads of money and they have the political connections, essentially the power

Some poster mentioned Facebook. Facebook has shown its manipulation of news concerning politics based on it founders beliefs. any form of a news outlet that restricts free flow of information and/or manipulates news is not a worthy publication. Its unethical journalism and in my view commits what I consider the graves sin of all HYPOCRISY which essentially creates a breach of trust and once trust is broken it can seldom can be reinstated.

Personal Best Regards:

Villageswimmer 08-04-2016 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1265986)
The bigger sin is a publication that censure news ,reformats it to their political philosophy, or omits news items entirely.

The publication in question and the ad in particular reference a letter written by a resident expressing his feeling and beliefs. It is the resident's God given right and its base on factual evidence experienced by at least 13,000 other residents.

Freedom of speech is guaranteed to offend someone but its the price we pay for that freedom. What some posters are suggesting here is a restriction on the freedom of speech because its doesn't fit their world view.

you can't hide the truth and the truth will set you free.

Here again is another example of those residents who seem to believe that they have to come to the defense of The Villages when in fact they should be coming to the defense of residents or at least remaining neutral. It just causes one to furrow a brow and scratch the back of the head? My neighbors are important to me not some business entity.

The Villages doesn't need defending they have the high ground they have loads of money and they have the political connections, essentially the power

Some poster mentioned Facebook. Facebook has shown its manipulation of news concerning politics based on it founders beliefs. any form of a news outlet that restricts free flow of information and/or manipulates news is not a worthy publication. Its unethical journalism and in my view commits what I consider the graves sin of all HYPOCRISY which essentially creates a breach of trust and once trust is broken it can seldom can be reinstated.

Personal Best Regards:


Finally, a voice of reason. :bowdown:

ColdNoMore 08-04-2016 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1265971)
I don't understand why anyone would be upset about a free online newspaper. :confused:
I believe you have to subscribe to receive it. If you joined by accident, it's very easy to cancel your subscription.

I haven't heard that you have to subscribe to it.

I found it shortly after I joined here when someone was screeching about it then. I simply saved it to favorites and go look occasionally, but have not had to sign up for anything.




I guess what continually amazes me however, are all the people that become apoplectic about a news source that actually doesn't withhold facts and is willing to be more than a "company town rag trying to sell homes"...such as we have with The Happy Paper.

Even for those who are thoroughly opposed to the 1st Amendment of the COTUS (which quite surprisingly given the political makeup, seems to be quite a few around here), you have to make an effort to get to that (or any other) news sources...so the solution to what so easily sends you into a rage is actually quite controllable.

Just STOP making that effort of clicking on the site...and your problems are solved. :shrug:

It really is as simple as that. :ho:

And it's just a guess on my part, but I'm thinking those same people don't really care for the POA newsletter either. :D

600th Photo Sq 08-04-2016 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1265971)
I don't understand why anyone would be upset about a free online newspaper. :confused:
I believe you have to subscribe to receive it. If you joined by accident, it's very easy to cancel your subscription.

Straight and to the point. All in 3 sentences Well Said !!:plane:

Happydaz 08-04-2016 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1265986)
The bigger sin is a publication that censure news ,reformats it to their political philosophy, or omits news items entirely.

The publication in question and the ad in particular reference a letter written by a resident expressing his feeling and beliefs. It is the resident's God given right and its base on factual evidence experienced by at least 13,000 other residents.

Freedom of speech is guaranteed to offend someone but its the price we pay for that freedom. What some posters are suggesting here is a restriction on the freedom of speech because its doesn't fit their world view.

you can't hide the truth and the truth will set you free.

Here again is another example of those residents who seem to believe that they have to come to the defense of The Villages when in fact they should be coming to the defense of residents or at least remaining neutral. It just causes one to furrow a brow and scratch the back of the head? My neighbors are important to me not some business entity.

The Villages doesn't need defending they have the high ground they have loads of money and they have the political connections, essentially the power

Some poster mentioned Facebook. Facebook has shown its manipulation of news concerning politics based on it founders beliefs. any form of a news outlet that restricts free flow of information and/or manipulates news is not a worthy publication. Its unethical journalism and in my view commits what I consider the graves sin of all HYPOCRISY which essentially creates a breach of trust and once trust is broken it can seldom can be reinstated.

Personal Best Regards:

Thanks for this post! We need a free press that is free to publish all the facts, not some of the facts. For me the Daily Sun has been deficient in reporting on the recent Medicare fiasco at the Villages Health. Think about it. Not a single article on the situation and how many residents are searching for new doctors, etc. Just more propaganda on The Villages as "The Healthiest Hometown." Another is the Villages as "The Friendliest Hometown." The rest of the paper is enjoyable though. I like the articles about the people and all their activities, but after this recent Medicare situation I no longer appreciate the propaganda articles.

SKIMAN 08-04-2016 06:50 AM

I love the "online rag" it's like Paul Harvey said {THE REST OF THE STORY} there's 3 sides to every story.

photo1902 08-04-2016 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1266026)
I haven't heard that you have to subscribe to it.

I found it shortly after I joined here when someone was screeching about it then. I simply saved it to favorites and go look occasionally, but have not had to sign up for anything.




I guess what continually amazes me however, are all the people that become apoplectic about a news source that actually doesn't withhold facts and is willing to be more than a "company town rag trying to sell homes"...such as we have with The Happy Paper.

Even for those who are thoroughly opposed to the 1st Amendment of the COTUS (which quite surprisingly given the political makeup, seems to be quite a few around here), you have to make an effort to get to that (or any other) news sources...so the solution to what so easily sends you into a rage is actually quite controllable.

Just STOP making that effort of clicking on the site...and your problems are solved. :shrug:

It really is as simple as that. :ho:

And it's just a guess on my part, but I'm thinking those same people don't really care for the POA newsletter either. :D

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

kaseydog 08-04-2016 07:04 AM

Online village newspaper is not a rag. It had highlighted heartless treatment of villagers by developers. The villagers health center debacle & morse bridge repair cost being put on villagers. Developers are ruining their reputation,all over the country, by their own greedy actions.
Encourage reading of villages on line news. Hope it saves you from grief i'm going through.

circletrack 08-04-2016 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1266026)
I haven't heard that you have to subscribe to it.

I found it shortly after I joined here when someone was screeching about it then. I simply saved it to favorites and go look occasionally, but have not had to sign up for anything.




I guess what continually amazes me however, are all the people that become apoplectic about a news source that actually doesn't withhold facts and is willing to be more than a "company town rag trying to sell homes"...such as we have with The Happy Paper.

Even for those who are thoroughly opposed to the 1st Amendment of the COTUS (which quite surprisingly given the political makeup, seems to be quite a few around here), you have to make an effort to get to that (or any other) news sources...so the solution to what so easily sends you into a rage is actually quite controllable.

Just STOP making that effort of clicking on the site...and your problems are solved. :shrug:

It really is as simple as that. :ho:

And it's just a guess on my part, but I'm thinking those same people don't really care for the POA newsletter either. :D

Beginning to wonder if some of you even read the "Happy Paper"
With their extensive death penalty coverage, Black Lives Matter and Orlando shooting stories taking up the front pages recently, it doesn't seem so happy.

outlaw 08-04-2016 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1265959)
I have agreed all along, in the other threads that discussed this seediness they inject, that we need a newspaper with some substance and news of our TV community that is not just "The Happy Paper".

Past discussions on this included the fact that, while crime reports are definitely needed, all the seediest mug shuts available in the vicinity do not have to fill the front page with the creeps, which overshadows articles about normal, decent Villagers doing all kinds of good for the community, the needy, and each other.

Gerry has it right: it's like "national enquirer for seniors".

:ohdear:

Maybe you should talk to the "Happy Paper" editor and see if a little more realism can be inserted into the DS. If the DS was more balanced and realistic, maybe people would not need to read the online paper.

kaseydog 08-04-2016 07:25 AM

I called the "be happy" paper reporter" who wrote the article about the insurance change in the tv health. Asked when when he would write article about patients established at tvh & now having to try to find new doctors because of insurance conflicts & loss of benefits.
He refused to write article covering the other side of tv health decision & hung up on me.

outlaw 08-04-2016 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1266054)
Beginning to wonder if some of you even read the "Happy Paper"
With their extensive death penalty coverage, Black Lives Matter and Orlando shooting stories taking up the front pages recently, it doesn't seem so happy.

Yes. All OUTSIDE the bubble. Don't you get it?

graciegirl 08-04-2016 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blicata (Post 1266057)
I called the "be happy" paper reporter" who wrote the article about the insurance change in the tv health. Asked when when he would write article about patients established at tvh & now having to try to find new doctors because of insurance conflicts & loss of benefits.
He refused to write article covering the other side of tv health decision & hung up on me.



I haven't ever called the paper and been hung up on. In fact I can't recall ever being hung up on by any business.

ColdNoMore 08-04-2016 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1266059)
Yes. All OUTSIDE the bubble. Don't you get it?

:thumbup:


Needing to point out the obvious...is but one symptom of the problem. :oops:

graciegirl 08-04-2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1266059)
Yes. All OUTSIDE the bubble. Don't you get it?

I think world and National issues are very unhappy right now and are of interest to many.

Does anyone else notice kind of a barrage of taunts and negativism from a certain group? Having been called a bully I am reluctant to say more than that. What makes one group more valid than another group?

Heck I don't care. What is wrong with certain people that they are only happy saying ugly things? I think that most of us are pretty savvy folks and we don't see the glass half empty. I think we are being bullied for being positive.

And I do agree with the OP in that here has been a huge shift in Journalism lately over at the online news.

I will soon read posts about my unrealistic enjoyment of all things here and I will wonder to myself what is the motive behind all of this negativity.

Miles42 08-04-2016 08:18 AM

I am a resident, I do not find it to be a rag. It just reports the news. None of is a lie that I see so far.

Taltarzac725 08-04-2016 08:18 AM

There are many sources for information about the Villages and I like seeing the good, the bad and the ugly.

This is a very large area with a population of well over 150,000 so there are going to be more problems as it grows even bigger.

Not sure how they got that number but it does show up in research.

I even look at Topix.com once in a while and that usually is less mature than what you might find written on a Junior High Bathroom wall probably written by someone with the emotional sensitivity of a backward eight year old.

Taltarzac725 08-04-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1266091)
I don't "blindly follow the developer's interests." I just like it here. I am also a capitalist and I like when private enterprise does a good job. The developer's family all might be nasty people and greedy as hell, I don't know them and I doubt you do either.

I am more than satisfied with my life here.

Actually some of them are probably quite nice.


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