What is a new home?
 

I suppose every house is a new home to the purchaser. However, it does seem to be a bit of a stretch to call the houses being sold by the Villages in Lake Sumter new. Most of the houses were built in 2008 or 2009 and are called “This new 3 BED 2 BATH Keys Villa”. Go to the Villages sales site and search new homes in Lake Sumter.

A rental could be called new when it’s sold by the builder or original owner? As everyone does their due diligence when making a house purchase here, I suppose the purchaser will understand how the house was used in the past eight or more years. I would change the new to slightly used.

Are the Villages now using other houses in other areas to replace the need for these houses? Just curious.

I think they are using Antrim Dells near Brownwood???

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'New on the market maybe,' certainly not "new."

Click on "New Homes" then shop by area "Lake Sumter" for the search that I am discussing.

You're right, those are all preowned villas. Not sure how they come up with the "new" listing.

I will bet they were never "sold", so if you did a property search, there would be no previous owner, even if the home was several years old.

Do you suppose they were used for lifestyle visits?

You are right. I did a search. They were probably used for lifestyle visits like the Big Pretty Cottages next to Lake Sumter once were. They were sold as new. They had no previous owner.

I went to a couple of open houses when I was in The Villages in May and June. The open houses were for homes that were used for Lifestyle Visits that are now being sold for the first time. It is my understanding that The Villages are now using villas near Brownwood for the Lifestyle Visits.

What is a new home?
 

For the developer to advertise the Creekside Villas as new is nothing less than fraud unless a fully disclosed disclaimer is shown upfront as soon as you open the front door. I have not nor will I visit these open houses so I don't know the details but what I do know is the roof, HVAC, plumbing, electric are all at least 7 years old. NOT new by anyone's stretch of imagination UNLESS you are the developer who can write whatever they want in the Daily Sun.
As always, caveat emptor.

There is no sense of being a creative marketing monarch unless you can act like one

Perhaps someone who bought one of the lovely homes on Lake Sumter will explain just how the warranty reads. Or someone who bought any of the homes previously used for lifestyle visits. It simply looks to me that the choices available under listings were new or pre-owned.

I would guess that anyone who has sold this many homes would not risk their reputation by doing something fraudulent. Especially when it is not necessary to do anything underhanded to sell new or used homes here.

Just like a car dealer who has cars that have never been registered & or titled, they are sold as new with low miles on them/ with a significant discount.

What is a new home?
 

A warranty does not a new house make.
There is no substitution for new.
Something is only new once.
New paint doesn't have that new house smell.
Only new concrete smells new.
Don't advertise as new.

These houses have many miles on them. Not new by definition.

OH for heavens sake. It has been done repeatedly that Life Style Homes are sold. The transaction would be as a new home only as a technicality, it would appear to me. If these were shady transaction and anyone had the wool pulled over their eyes their would be outcry to high heavens by now.

We looked at several homes by Lake Sumter and thought they were overpriced. Some were adjusted down in price when they didn't sell right away, but I remember noting and having the conversation with the agent hosting the open house that the furniture was not in brand new condition. It certainly was not presented to us in any way as an attempt to sell something without full disclosure. How dumb would that be? They haven't been preowned and they aren't spiffy new either. AND the developer will sell them for as much as they can be sold for.

We stayed in one of these units 2 months ago. They are certainly maintained and cleaned to perfection but the concern about them being passed off as new is not valid. It is obvious they are not brand new. Anyone could tell rite away and TV doesn't strike me as a place that wouldn't disclose the previous use of these homes. Anyone who lives there is fortunate indeed....for the correct price.

The realtors hosting the three open houses that I attended that day told me these homes had been used in the past for the Lifestyle visits. Just as I told them I already owned a home in TV and was just looking. I've been looking at courtyard villas since I got a puppy but most of the garages are a tight fit with my Ford Flex and a cart! But I still love to go to open houses!

Why wouldn't the developer advertise these used homes as new? They don't tell you if you are looking at a house next to the dump, or if you are looking at a house 100 yards from a train track? They don't even disclose that this "gated community" is really open access to the public. So yes, it depends on what the meaning of the word "new" is...

As with the marketing of other properties that didn’t include all of TV amenities which were pulled from the Villages sales site, in this instance I believe a disclaimer should be included in the listing on the site to disclose how the home has been used in the past eight or more years. While many lifestyle visit homes have been sold in the past, these are very old and are not new homes. These homes can be sold on their own merits without giving the first impression of them as being new.

I think that you should tell that to The Villages Sales Manager whose name is Jennifer Parr.

It appears to me that they are being sold by the developer who will offer all the warranties and guarantees of a new home. It has not been owned by any other person but the builder who used it for rental and so in fact is like a new car that has been used for test drives in many ways.

Jennifer Parr will probably welcome your advice. How are your drainage issues coming along?

THAT should be the end of it...but I bet it won't. :D



Good job. :thumbup:

I believe that the managers of the Villages sales site will do what they can to minimize customer confusion if they see the need. My guess is that many topics discussed on this site are brought to their attention.

Consumer response has helped many companies to improve their business in many ways. I don’t feel that there is anything dumb or sorry about this discussion as long as it remains on topic which it has. I am trying to be positive here.

When creakside landing homes went up for sale we knew they were used for lifestyle visits. Fully furnished, but much wear on kitchen items and furniture. Even the bedding was the same. Newly painted. I do not remember if listed as new since our rep called us to say it was for sale did we want to look. No sense telling us it was new, we stayed at that house.

What is a new home?
 

Unintentional though, Creakside Landing is funny.

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Hi, we live in Creekside, we walk and bike ride around. Yes, they take previously owned, previously Lifestyle,
8 or so years old. They may remove all the old flooring, the older cabinets, anything that shows the age, they paint the total interior and the driveway, and yes, they do advertise them as NEW.
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You are totally right. Absolutely. :doh:

I must really be obtuse. I thought they were new and was surprised to learn TV was still building in Lake Sumter area. Until I read this thread. Duh.

I would think, though, when a person goes to look at them, they are told up front that they are not truly new. It is misleading, IMO, and I'm surprised that some creative marketing person didn't come up with a better way to present them with full disclosure.

What is a new home?
 

How about "Full new home Warranty". That would work. But still, the HVAC is old and unless it was replaced not nearly as efficient as today's models. The roof life is 2/3 of a new one, the water heater has another 8 years, garage door opener and spring, plumbing fixtures, drain lines etc. etc. The warranty will carry through the next year probably with no problems. It's what's down the pike in the next ten will let you know it wasn't really new after all. I believe in buying new, much more cost effective then used. The fact that you thought these houses advertised new aren't, proves initial misleading information to the public.
Since I stayed at Creekside for our Lifestyle I knew they weren't. But, the location is great !

What is a new home?
 

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The new area of Lifestyle Preview homes is Alden Bungalows just west of Brownwood (not Antrim Dells)

You mean by your definition.....not a legal definition, just your view....you should put a disclaimer when you post opinion.

to me RickyD is right.its a preown house , an I can see that from heaven or where ever you live.have a happy day

The axiom that an 8 year old house is not new doesn't require proof, nor is it my opinion.

Yep. :agree:

Thanks for standing up for this underdog, It's been a long lonely haul :beer3:

The irony being that you posted the actual definition, others proffered their opinions...then tried to claim it was just your opinion. :oops:


(cue Twilight Zone music) :D