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Guest 09-08-2016 08:14 AM

the generals are rubble
 
Enough said from a buffoon. Backers of trump, is this what you think of our military?

Guest 09-08-2016 08:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285100)
Enough said from a buffoon. Backers of trump, is this what you think of our military?

General Flynn agreed with him this morning. And Trump does have more support from the military than Hillary. What's your problem with what he said?

Guest 09-08-2016 12:47 PM

Yet again we are in a war with no goal
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1285100)
Enough said from a buffoon. Backers of trump, is this what you think of our military?

The fault is not our military they must follow the orders of the commander in chief-the president.

We are fighting the war that our enemy wants. That is simply stupid. The enemy looks exactly the same as the people on our side. Individually they readily change from one side to the other. They hide among civilians and so if we fire on them we cause collateral damage. Our people want to do their job AND COME HOME ALIVE. Their faith says if they die spreading the faith the reward is salvation.

We,due to politically correctness, refuse to follow tactics that would have any chance of winning.

We, refuse to understand the Muslim enemy we cannot understand why a woman would strap a bomb to her body walk into a group of people they call infidels (nonbelievers)
and blow herself up with as many non-Muslims as possible. The reason is it gets her salvation. It absolves all previous sins such as cheating on her husband etc.

Clearly, we have a problem. Even at home we have Muslims among us several who have attacked innocent civilians-world trade center-they killed 3,000, Boston bombers killed and injured over 100, Orlando, France.
It is quite clear that KUBAYAH does not work. SOLUTION-I DON'T HAVE ONE. Perhaps, as has been done in the past, we need to kill off the entire family of these bombers so they will not be remembered-they just disappear.
Who knows-perhaps like in Ireland one day a leader will arrive and wonder what the hell people are killing each other for. In Ireland it only took 300 years.

Guest 09-08-2016 01:34 PM

ok, any general that wouldn't follow Obama thinking was dumped, the only ones left are YES men.

therefore he made that statement meaning they are feckless

Guest 09-08-2016 01:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285344)
ok, any general that wouldn't follow Obama thinking was dumped, the only ones left are YES men.

therefore he made that statement meaning they are feckless

More like mindless drones.

Guest 09-08-2016 09:18 PM

You can't have it both ways.

If you think the generals are rubble and too stupid to lead or provide informed input then say so.

If you believe that Trump knows more then the generals, that's a valid opinion that Trump supporters share by default.

You don't respect the generals, question their motives and how they were even promoted.

Guest 09-09-2016 03:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285561)
You can't have it both ways.

If you think the generals are rubble and too stupid to lead or provide informed input then say so.

If you believe that Trump knows more then the generals, that's a valid opinion that Trump supporters share by default.

You don't respect the generals, question their motives and how they were even promoted.

If people continue to take Trump's comments out of context, then they deserve Hillary. Trump was correct and generals agree with him. He was not disrespecting the generals. He was blaming Obama, rightly so too.

Guest 09-09-2016 03:18 AM

Our television set broke down yesterday. That bl**dy Obama!

Guest 09-09-2016 03:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285602)
Our television set broke down yesterday. That bl**dy Obama!

That shindig happened the day before yesterday.

My TV went out briefly three times yesterday with the power outage. We had a small rain shower that may have been related, but it hardly even watered anything. The power outage was enough to cause the TV and computer to reboot, but didn't reset the clocks in the house. Go figure.

Guest 09-09-2016 04:31 AM

How can anyone object to a president that desires to build our military defense . The most effective way to ensure peace is to be the nation with the strongest defense.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 09-09-2016 06:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285606)
How can anyone object to a president that desires to build our military defense . The most effective way to ensure peace is to be the nation with the strongest defense.

Personal Best Regards:

Sorry, but that false call to patriotism is just more of Trump's ignorance...and doesn't pass the smell test. :ohdear:

We already spend more on our military...than the next 7 nations in the world combined!

We have enough nukes to destroy the planet's population twice over.

What should be happening is that we start keeping our nose out of the worlds business that isn't a direct threat to the freedom of this nation (and there hasn't been a war/conflict since WW2 that meets that criteria) and start taking care of those that are injured from war-hawks supporting the military-industrial complex.

Of which, Obama has actually INCREASED care (and pay) to our fine men and women that the politicians like to use as pawns...

Budget: Obama proposes big increase in VA funding - U.S. - Stripes
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The proposed 2016 budget includes roughly $70 billion in discretionary funding for the VA, for a total budget of about $168 billion — the rest being made up of mandatory benefit programs such as pensions and disability payments.

.....while the Repugnatcans have fought him the whole way.

Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits - CSMonitor.com

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Washington — A divided Senate on Thursday derailed Democratic legislation that would have provided $21 billion for medical, education, and job-training benefits for the nation's veterans.

And with Chump's ignorant rhetoric of "why can't we use nukes" and "I know more than the generals" ...you really think he's the answer?

Really? :oops:



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CNM

Guest 09-09-2016 06:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285606)
How can anyone object to a president that desires to build our military defense . The most effective way to ensure peace is to be the nation with the strongest defense.

Personal Best Regards:

So we can MAKE them comply?

Guest 09-09-2016 07:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285625)

...you really think he's the answer?

Really?
CNM

I think so really!

question how do you feel we've been doing under Obama for 8 years with only looking at a continuation of 4 more with her?

Do you think we are safer from terrorism?

Do you think if we let 650,000 Syrians in without anyway to do a background check is a good idea?

She just telegraphed her plan to ISIS no ground troupes, they then can operate unchecked without fear of reprisal.

Guest 09-09-2016 08:44 AM

Any real patriotic flag officer worth their salt will not stand very long to work for someone that will not allow them to do their job. They are not going to hang around allowing rag tag disoriented pi$$ants kill their men and women or win the situation.

Those guys are gone willing or not....they are gone.

What is left are the politicians; their allegiance to a failed leader is no matter to them. Losing to the enemy or loosing lives of their forces are so far from where they are mentally and physically it does not factor into the equation.

So people do not like when Trump calls a spade a spade. Or how he does it. They will always make it into something other than intended.

What if there are good generals but just not doing their job for America?
THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!
If they are still in the job, there is no place for them on a new winning team.

Trump is as usual more right than wrong and that is what the opposition detests.

I would rather put up with what and how Trump says things than what Clinton has done and is doing and mostly NOT doing.

Guest 09-09-2016 09:21 AM

Well said:agree:

Guest 09-09-2016 10:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285644)
I think so really!

question how do you feel we've been doing under Obama for 8 years with only looking at a continuation of 4 more with her?

Do you think we are safer from terrorism?

Do you think if we let 650,000 Syrians in without anyway to do a background check is a good idea?

She just telegraphed her plan to ISIS no ground troupes, they then can operate unchecked without fear of reprisal.

They "let in" about 50 million Hispanics who dropped kids and now are about 1/3 the total population...over 100 MILLION of them. Quickly becoming the MAJORITY.

You tell me...which is worse?

Guest 09-09-2016 12:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285687)
Any real patriotic flag officer worth their salt will not stand very long to work for someone that will not allow them to do their job. They are not going to hang around allowing rag tag disoriented pi$$ants kill their men and women or win the situation.

Those guys are gone willing or not....they are gone.

What is left are the politicians; their allegiance to a failed leader is no matter to them. Losing to the enemy or loosing lives of their forces are so far from where they are mentally and physically it does not factor into the equation.

So people do not like when Trump calls a spade a spade. Or how he does it. They will always make it into something other than intended.

What if there are good generals but just not doing their job for America?
THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!
If they are still in the job, there is no place for them on a new winning team.

Trump is as usual more right than wrong and that is what the opposition detests.

I would rather put up with what and how Trump says things than what Clinton has done and is doing and mostly NOT doing.

Exactly how I feel.

Liberals would go to the prisons to hire teachers for their children. It's exactly the same thing. Even though Hillary has not been convicted YET, she is still corrupt and a criminal. And they want her to lead the country. Kind of like putting Al Capone in charge of a bank. Or hiring David Duke to head up the NAACP.

Guest 09-09-2016 01:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285644)
I think so really!

question how do you feel we've been doing under Obama for 8 years with only looking at a continuation of 4 more with her?

My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:




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Do you think we are safer from terrorism?

Do you think if we let 650,000 Syrians in without anyway to do a background check is a good idea?

She just telegraphed her plan to ISIS no ground troupes, they then can operate unchecked without fear of reprisal.
I think people who are focused on and are more frightened of being killed by terrorists, instead of the 100 times more likely death by drunken drivers/obesity from eating too much/alcoholism/smoking/etc....are simply exposing their racism, bigotry and religious hypocrisy.

That's what I think. ;)



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CNM

Guest 09-09-2016 01:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285866)
My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:






I think people who are focused on and are more frightened of being killed by terrorists, instead of the 100 times more likely death by drunken drivers/obesity from eating too much/alcoholism/smoking/etc....are simply exposing their racism, bigotry and religious hypocrisy.

That's what I think. ;)



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CNM

You're a liar. NO wonder you are a Hillary supporter.

Guest 09-09-2016 02:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285866)
My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:






I think people who are focused on and are more frightened of being killed by terrorists, instead of the 100 times more likely death by drunken drivers/obesity from eating too much/alcoholism/smoking/etc....are simply exposing their racism, bigotry and religious hypocrisy.

That's what I think. ;)



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CNM

Did you watch the NOVA program linked on another thread. What was your reaction?

Guest 09-09-2016 03:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285866)
My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:






I think people who are focused on and are more frightened of being killed by terrorists, instead of the 100 times more likely death by drunken drivers/obesity from eating too much/alcoholism/smoking/etc....are simply exposing their racism, bigotry and religious hypocrisy.

That's what I think. ;)



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CNM

More of the bigot and racist baloney,
from the chief sausage maker!
:1rotfl:

Guest 09-09-2016 03:34 PM

If Obama was president during WWII we would all be speaking German today.

Guest 09-09-2016 05:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285955)
More of the bigot and racist baloney,
from the chief sausage maker!
:1rotfl:

:thumbup:

Guest 09-09-2016 05:31 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285962)
If Obama was president during WWII we would all be speaking German today.

And so would all of Europe.

Guest 09-09-2016 05:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285962)
If Obama was president during WWII we would all be speaking German today.

Interesting, but many of you feel it is fine to speak "Trumpese".

Do you not worry why the whispers exist about fear of public support for Trump ? Or public disapproval of Trump ?

This is what he has and will so.

As we have seen with anyone who disagrees with him he finds a way to, as he says, counterpunch, which means attack them and demean them personally, no matter the counterpoint they want to make, no matter if valid.

As we see, if a media member offends him, he immediately attacks and pulls credentials. He tolerates no disagreement..none.

Wonder, if elected, how he will "pull the credentials" of any citizen who dares to disagree ?

Guest 09-09-2016 05:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286012)
Interesting, but many of you feel it is fine to speak "Trumpese".

Do you not worry why the whispers exist about fear of public support for Trump ? Or public disapproval of Trump ?

This is what he has and will so.

As we have seen with anyone who disagrees with him he finds a way to, as he says, counterpunch, which means attack them and demean them personally, no matter the counterpoint they want to make, no matter if valid.

As we see, if a media member offends him, he immediately attacks and pulls credentials. He tolerates no disagreement..none.

Wonder, if elected, how he will "pull the credentials" of any citizen who dares to disagree ?

I guess you will find out. It won't be long before he wins the election by a landslide.

Guest 09-09-2016 05:46 PM

Is the title correct? Isn't it supposed to say "Barney Rubble is a general"

Guest 09-09-2016 05:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285866)
My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:
CNM

Sure, what about the other 98% of your fellow Americans?


they got the short end of his presidency, but knowing a bit the way you think you don't give a rats ass

Guest 09-09-2016 05:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286017)
I guess you will find out. It won't be long before he wins the election by a landslide.

Obviously you are rooting for that kind of person in the WH, which is your right.

I am curious why, within our 3 bodies of government and system, you find it comfortable to have a person with such aspirations in the Oval Office ?

I ask that in all sincerity, because you surely know that the trade deals he speaks of must come through congress, basically most of which he has or will offend.

Guest 09-09-2016 05:59 PM

Is it 4 years of string bluster you want with no chance of accomplishing anything ? President can drop bombs, well for 60 days anyway, but that's it

Guest 09-09-2016 06:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1285866)
My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea. :thumbup:


CNM

Yup you are exactly right the stock market is whatever it is....while he was president.

Obama has only one relationship to the stock market. The passage of time on his watch.

Guest 09-09-2016 06:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286022)
I ask that in all sincerity, because you surely know that the trade deals he speaks of must come through congress, basically most of which he has or will offend.

He has to present valid arguments to get the deals done.

The Art of The Deal :coolsmiley:

Guest 09-09-2016 06:07 PM

And what does all this jawboning have to do with the generals?

Guest 09-09-2016 06:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286028)
And what does all this jawboning have to do with the generals?

That's the great part. Nothing.

Guest 09-09-2016 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286028)
And what does all this jawboning have to do with the generals?

It has to do with the fact that we need a strong President.
Something we won't get with Hillary, and which
we haven't had for almost 8 years!

Guest 09-09-2016 06:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286033)
It has to do with the fact that we need a strong President.
Something we won't get with Hillary, and which
we haven't had for almost 8 years!

I keep asking....

Strong in what way ?

Are you hoping for a term of loud bluster.....congress needs to pass any trade deals...they need to approve any spending, like for.a wall for example. President cannot do this arbitrarily.

If it is the strong bluster you hope for to get some kind of tester one kick...that is why ALL terrorist organizations are rooting for that...a fantastic recruiting tool.

Is the bluster to scare congress into approving tariffs on Mexico and China to increase not only our prices, but inflation ? They may object as they need to get elected.

Building the military to Reagan levels as he likes to say..why ? This is not 1980...just apply common sense and he can't do that without congress no matter who he insults.

If he talks tough to any country leader...is that what you are looking for ?

Well, we spent many years trying to reduce the nuclear threat, and today Trumps press lady "implied" what Trump might do about North Korea, is that what you guys are rooting for...just bomb somebody..use a nuke...show them who is boss ? Well, just hope action like that does not have any kind of domino affect because you and the kids won't be here to celebrate...you do know should he do that, it will violate a ton of international laws and they will be "justified" in reprisal. Is that the testosterone fix you look for ?

Guest 09-09-2016 06:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286033)
It has to do with the fact that we need a strong President.
Something we won't get with Hillary, and which
we haven't had for almost 8 years!

Define strong

Guest 09-09-2016 06:31 PM

It just appears that those that support Trump want a big mouth to give them some masculine jolt. They are searching for a crass, filthy mouthed, characterless, morally corrupt person to represent their country. Why ? What does that get you...

Seems they want a man who ALL foreign countries now know as a liar, a man they can irritate, a man they cannot trust. So much for not letting people know much

Guest 09-09-2016 06:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286043)
Define strong

Strong:


= not Obama

= not Clinton

Guest 09-09-2016 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1286054)
Strong:


= not Obama

= not Clinton

I suppose should have expected this...you have no idea except for the absurd ideas this genial con man has placed in your minds.

Not sure why folks like you cannot engage as an adult


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