Never fear the mean people again
 

Rejoice! Help is on the way. :pepper2: For those who feel threatened by the bullies in the Politics thread or elsewhere, fear no more. If you feel there are nasty people out there making critical comments about you or possibly even ganging up on you, there's someone looking out for you.

HR 1966 has been introduced by Rep Linda Sanchez (D, CA.) to provide the oversight and protection we all want and need so much. She has proposed that the following be added to Chapter 41 of Title 18 of the US Code:

"Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

For details, see http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1966


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Boy Howdy. Is this proposal retroactive?

Such a measure is the worst piece of legislation I have heard yet. Abandoning or muzzling free speech is liberty lost. Regardless of your politics, don't go down that path, there is great peril there.

I suspect the bill is a response by a representative to a contituent
 

or constituents request/complaint. Like most bills that do not make it out of committee, this one probably won't as it involves possible constitutional violation, let alone the issues of enforcement.....and makes no sense what so ever. Maybe the constituents belong to a political forum:laugh:

BTK

Maybe
 

someone has sent her something that she didn't like and this is her way of dealing with it. For this she makes the big bucks??

This would be a terrible think. Who would determine what is OK to say.
DON'T LET MORE FREEDOM ESCAPE

I guess the anti-bully legislation would cross the line into "over protectionism" by big brother. However the group on this site that is more dangerous are the back stabbers. They say or write one thing to your face but then twist your words to their advntage when with their cliques distorting the real issue. I would rather deal with a bully because at least you know where they're coming from whether they're right or wrong. The others are just lonely, hurtful people who need such conflict to give meaning to a nowhere life.
Of course all of this is "IN MY OPINION"..

This is bad neews.

Are you speaking about a situation that occured in the past or at the present time?

Be careful of asking honest questions; it may result in bullying
 

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A classic example as to why we have the political forum in the first place.

Yoda
Member of the Loyal opposition.

senior citizen......
 

Senior citizen..... I agree with you that it is a small minority but your contributions have merit and I hope you don't judge TV by an outspoken few individualsl with bad manners :shrug:

I agree - most of the people I've met do not even post on TOTV and they are the nicest people. From my experience, the people on this forum are not representative of the whole, politically and otherwise. Of course, we have to remember, that a lot of the posters here are not even Villagers. You have to take it all with a grain of salt. Many of the posters who act like they have all the answers, may actually have only lived here a few months. And I have reason to believe that The Villages is paying some people to post and cheerlead The Villages on this website, as a sales ploy. Nothing wrong with that, just good business practices, but just saying you have to keep your wits about you and consider the source.

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How very interesting...........
 

I have long suspected this to be true...... but dismissed it as my suspicious nature from growing up in NYC & da Bronx :shrug:

Anyway, it would be a devious sales ploy and my respect for the participants would be greatly diminished :ohdear:

Sheesh. I know I shouldn't but I am taking this very seriously because I am a serious cheerleader for this wonderful place and I do believe that I, myself was the one who answered Senior Citizen and brought up the word Stepford, because that was my first impression. Everyone I met, no allow me to qualify that, most everyone I met and continue meeting are wonderfully positive and enjoy this place mightily.

I am, for the most part a positive person, but I never expected anything to be as wonderful as this place is and I am certainly not being paid by anyone to say that. I know many of you agree with me.

Yes there are bugs. We had a bunch of fruit flys before we left last week.
Yes, there are problems, there must be, my table was chosen last at the potluck and we didn't get the best vittles. Everyone I see here is old. They are a little on the plump side, including me. It takes some of them and me awhile to get out of a chair after sitting for awhile.

I have never met the Morses and they must be rich as Croesus, but it doesn't make me dislike them. They just keep improving if you ask me and learning as they go along.

I am raving. I am gonna stop without making a point. I don't get anything out of telling about how great this place is, but it seems a shame not to spread the truthful word, me being a Christian and all and since YOU mentioned it.(The Christian part)

oboy. I didn't mean to start something but I bet I have. I am going to walk my dog.

I don't have a dog.

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This site is not supported by The Villages and I don't believe they or the owners of TOTV pay members to post positive statements about The Villages.

What I do get tired of is some members believing those of us who choose to buy in The Villages have on blinders and don't see any of TV faults. There are several things I disagree with but they are minor and really don't have a major effect on my lifestyle so they were not a factor in us buying a home in TV.

We are still in our early 50's and lead a very active lifestyle and plan to continue to do so once we retire and that is one of the main reasons we choose TV.

TV is not for everyone but I don't believe anyone likes being told they have been deceived or tricked into buying a home, it is insulting and rude.

Eyes Wide Open and loving The Villages warts and all.

I am a part time Villager, the other part we llive in NY. We have been to most of the Crisper meet and greets and I must say that I do not believe that there are people on this list planted here. We visited the Villages for 12 years before buying. I agree with Halle, there are some things I disagree with here, but only heaven could be more of a paradise. My motto is, "life here is what YOU make it"!

Halle is right.
She said, "This site is not supported by The Villages and I don't believe they or the owners of TOTV pay members to post positive statements about The Villages."

Talk of The Villages does not pay posters. Period.

Having no connection to The Villages developers, I cannot say what they do or don't do.

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That is a very dangerous piece of legislation...I see my right to free speech seriously in danger according to the wording in that proposed bill......who is going to be the enforcement agency?
There have been some very contentious posts on this forum and some very hurtful things said...and even if I do not agree with the criticism or think the words unkind I will defend the rights of those individual to express their opinion. I might suggest they were hurtful and unnecessary but I would never presume to censor there opinions.

In view of the fact that I use the screen name "Talk Host" and I am an administrator, I assume you are talking about me. I invite you to print right here, right now, an example of those "vulgar comments" that you refer to. If you can't think of a specific example, then a vague recollection will do.

If you are unable to provide us with either I am going to assume you made it up to discredit us. I then invite you to apologize to me and the other administrators.

Shirleevee,

I just want you to know that I hear you. While there are some adults who think this thing is about them, I hear you loud and clear. There have been kids driven to suicide because of cyberbullying. They cannot process like adults should be able to process. And tragically, for teenagers, cyberbullying can result in that permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I will say that I did not watch the Oprah show that you referenced. And I try not to read much about such things. But I am well aware of what is out there.

I will also say that I did not delve into Munc's link for the specifics.

I do know that technology is well ahead of the law.

And I also know that for so many kids, their daddy is cable television and their mama is the internet. That's where so many kids spend so much of their time. Parked in front of a screen. It becomes their world. And too many parents choose to abdicate to the machine. These are such difficult times for our kids. And the faceless bully can destroy a kid's life. Both figuratively and literally.

As far as adults go, that's a whole different game. I am not here for some kind of "free speech" debate.

But children should not die by the typing hands of a cyberbully. And then that cyberbully goes unpunished.

Teenagers. I know about teenagers. I have known thousands of teenagers. So many are fragile. Whether they show you that or not. And so many lack loving guidance. But they have lots of screens in their lives.

Shirleevee, I hear you.

Boomer

Look at what Tony posted on 4-17 to Senior Citizen telling them 'waving your arse in their faces"!!

Alex,

You left out the context. By doing that, you just revealed a volume about yourself.

I went back and looked at Tony's post and many of those which preceded it. Not only did I not find 'waving your arse in their faces' to be vulgar but to be rather quite restrained considering the provocation. I didn't follow the thread at the time -- lucky me, I guess -- but the disdainful attitude of the lady's posts set my teeth on edge (whatever the heck that means). I think if I'd read one more snide comment about our subtropical climate, I might have made a more vulgar arse reference.



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Do you think they are just stirring the pot?
 

I do.

BTK

I read Tony's post also. As usual, in a diplomatic tone sprinkled lightly with humor he conveyed an accurate assessment of a recurring antagonism of those who love the Villages and who are occasionally suspect of those who contrive and stretch exaggerations to cast a negative spin on TV for reasons best known to themselves.

While you were perusing Tony's post, I was perusing yours and with less diplomacy than TOTV has persistently demonstrated, I have to say it appears you are a serial Villages basher who finds and supports kindred spirits in other Village bashers. Your opinions are certainly legitimate fodder for this board, but, so are the opinions of many others who do not share your pessimistic Villages views.

Those who take cheap shots at the Villages and the lifestyle here should not be crying "foul" when defenders react strongly in response.

For the record, I have no connection with the developer or TOTV.

Thank you TOTV for providing and running a class operation.

I have noticed at "Senior Citizen" has not responded to my post seeking examples of my "vulgar" comments.

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Ohhhhh, those mean streets of TOTV
 

You know, I really am a nice lady. And it takes a lot to get me aggravated over something on this board. The only board I have even been on, btw. And that's bc the admins watch out for us. And yeah, I got hacked off myself one time for a nanosecond when somebody misunderstood my point. But I got over it.

But you know what. This comment of yours, lifted from between the lines of your post here, is not really as between the lines as you expect us poor "dumb" souls to think.

And I have to stop reading this thread, because I gotta tellya, I feel a Boom! comin' on.

Boomer

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WOW!!! HUH!!! Oh my gosh!!!:shrug::shrug:

Senoir citizen, please stop appologizing all over the place. Your post was very
consice and to the point. Some of the in crowd on this site would make an arguement out of a soup sandwich. If you're as intelligent as you seem you
should be able to pick out the pompus snipers for who thet are. There are some of us not being pushed around by them on TOTV. I hope you will stay the course and inject you're thoughts when you see fit.