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jimbo2012 12-27-2016 11:38 AM

Julian Assange
 
"Clinton tried to destroy us, yet she destroyed herself."

Clinton, Podesta et al COULD NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH & they brought it on themselves.

He will be a part of American History as the "non-Russian" that blew up the Clinton Dynasty

I ask; Why Bill Clinton Rushed to Loretta Lynch after #WIKILEAKS revealed the #ClintonCorruption

BClinton lost nuclear codes, Hillary gave TOP SECRET response time on TV (felony), Biden identified soldier who carried codes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ZsBMXWgAERdlJ.jpg

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-27-2016 11:43 AM

Although I like the fact that Assange exposed the Clintons and their supporters for what they are, I find it a bit disconcerting tat someone could possibly get a hold of sone of out top secret classified information with no accountability.

I fear that Mr Assange has become or will become too powerful and want to rule the world.

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 11:49 AM

So the Dems spent 1.3 Billion on their campaign, but were to cheap or stupid to have first class firewall built to protect their emails.

The Rep didn't get broken/hacked into, guess they know how to built a better mouse trap.

Imagine if those emails weren't exposed what the public would never know.

remember one thing if nothing else

Clinton or Podesda NEVER denied the contents :mad:

How's Bernie feel'n the burn or Debbie Wassermam

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 11:51 AM

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Although I like the fact that Assange exposed the Clintons and their supporters for what they are, I find it a bit disconcerting tat someone could possibly get a hold of sone of out top secret classified information with no accountability.

I fear that Mr Assange has become or will become too powerful and want to rule the world.

I fear that those who profess to be conservative have been adopting the wrong heroes to follow and love....Assange and Putin, it appears are becoming beloved.

"“Whatever the cost of our libraries, the price is cheap compared to that of an ignorant nation.”
― Walter Cronkite

rubicon 12-27-2016 12:02 PM

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Although I like the fact that Assange exposed the Clintons and their supporters for what they are, I find it a bit disconcerting tat someone could possibly get a hold of sone of out top secret classified information with no accountability.

I fear that Mr Assange has become or will become too powerful and want to rule the world.

I agree. And I also believe that Edward Snowden ought to be tried as a traitor if he returns to this country. As you probably have observed he has been treated ad nauseam as a hero/celebrity by the left.

However what I find even more troubling is that outside hackers seem to be the only people who make the wrong doing of our national leaders public. Where are the Bernsteins and Woodwards

The news media's function is to be truth tellers, fact finders irrespective of party religion etc. However they are heavily biased on the left, some misinforming, others not informing at all while others making stories up as they go along. Fact checking is a joke because we need fact checkers to check fact checkers who in turn need fact checkers......

And as to this forum we have posters who actually are holding other posters to a higher standard of accuracy than they require from or receive from their news sources of current events. Its insane

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:08 PM

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I agree. And I also believe that Edward Snowden ought to be tried as a traitor if he returns to this country. As you probably have observed he has been treated ad nauseam as a hero/celebrity by the left.

However what I find even more troubling is that outside hackers seem to be the only people who make the wrong doing of our national leaders public. Where are the Bernsteins and Woodwards

The news media's function is to be truth tellers, fact finders irrespective of party religion etc. However they are heavily biased on the left, some misinforming, others not informing at all while others making stories up as they go along. Fact checking is a joke because we need fact checkers to check fact checkers who in turn need fact checkers......

And as to this forum we have posters who actually are holding other posters to a higher standard of accuracy than they require from or receive from their news sources of current events. Its insane

Personal Best Regards:

Woodward and Bernstein have been busy......mostly WARNING about a TRUMP presidency and if you really really read, you would know that.

Buffalo Jim 12-27-2016 12:17 PM

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Although I like the fact that Assange exposed the Clintons and their supporters for what they are, I find it a bit disconcerting tat someone could possibly get a hold of sone of out top secret classified information with no accountability.

I fear that Mr Assange has become or will become too powerful and want to rule the world.

Really ----- " want to rule the world " ---- Ha Ha ! Funny !!

Hope Santa brought you a very large box of crayons .

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 12:27 PM

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The news media's function is to be truth tellers, fact finders irrespective of party religion etc. However they are heavily biased on the left, some misinforming, others not informing at all while others making stories up as they go along.

When he was releasing these emails on daily basis.

CNN was totally silent other MSM outlets spent under a minute or two in hour of televised time.

I think Fox was the only one reporting (maybe that's why they are #1)

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:31 PM

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When he was releasing these emails on daily basis.

CNN was totally silent other MSM outlets spent under a minute or two in hour of televised time.

I think Fox was the only one reporting (maybe that's why they are #1)

I am going to call you on this.

Please supply some sort of credence to your claim about MSM spending so little time on the leaks.

I ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY disagree with you in every aspect of your post and submit you simply made it up.

Buffalo Jim 12-27-2016 12:34 PM

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Woodward and Bernstein have been busy......mostly WARNING about a TRUMP presidency and if you really really read, you would know that.

Over 40 years ago these two stumbled into a major story .
Since then every single person who writes for even a weekly advertiser has been attempting to fashion themselves as the next coming of those two .

Just because they fell into a lucky break over four decades ago does not qualify them to be listened to are heralded today .

By the way Bernstein has not really been heard from since . It is Bob Woodward who has continued to publish and appear as a contributor on ------ get ready ------ OH MY God ! -- He appears on FOX NEWS !

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 12:36 PM

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I am going to call you on this.

Please supply some sort of credence to your claim about MSM spending so little time on the leaks.

I ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY disagree with you in every aspect of your post and submit you simply made it up.

No surprise there grasshopper.

U disagree with everything I post. :22yikes:

It was reported on Fox every few days with time charts and all.

It was on numerous Twitter feeds.

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:46 PM

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I agree. And I also believe that Edward Snowden ought to be tried as a traitor if he returns to this country. As you probably have observed he has been treated ad nauseam as a hero/celebrity by the left.

However what I find even more troubling is that outside hackers seem to be the only people who make the wrong doing of our national leaders public. Where are the Bernsteins and Woodwards

The news media's function is to be truth tellers, fact finders irrespective of party religion etc. However they are heavily biased on the left, some misinforming, others not informing at all while others making stories up as they go along. Fact checking is a joke because we need fact checkers to check fact checkers who in turn need fact checkers......

And as to this forum we have posters who actually are holding other posters to a higher standard of accuracy than they require from or receive from their news sources of current events. Its insane

Personal Best Regards:

Ok here we go.

While you did not mention me by name, I am making as assumption that this comment was aimed at me....

"And as to this forum we have posters who actually are holding other posters to a higher standard of accuracy than they require from or receive from their news sources of current events. Its insane"

I can tell you that anything I post has been at least triple checked. I actually mean I check at least three separate sources AND THE SOURCE it self before posting it.

I posted a number of links on here today about the possibility and discussion on the appointment of the Dept HHS (Price) and the medicaire situation. The responss ignored those links totally with no comment. I do not give any wishy washy links and if I do and am called on it, I will come on here and apologize. I have even apologized in advance if my source was good but not great. I also never ever steal their words and use as mine. I always cut and paste so that you and others can read it in context.

Perhaps you and I have different aims on this forum and in life.

My aim is to learn and share...FACTS. Not to simply sign on and attack the side I do not normally agree with, first because I know that neither conservative nor liberal is 100% right. Second, the continuation of that simply adds to the divide in this country.

I prefer to share what I find and my opinion on that.

Here is the problem. I try to share and then get back a reply simply aimed to denegrate a person or trump up Trump, or deenegrate a movement, right or left.

That serves NO purpose. What did you learn ?

It appears you come on here first and foremost to preach your gospel which is so predictable. You hate liberals, and it appears all of them. You hate President Obama on all issues and all problems should be laid at his feet. You did not support Trump to start but have come to realize he is so smart and brilliant and he is manipulating the left. You attach terrible motives to anyone who opposes Trumps lies. You find all he says to be true and the "holy grail"

I am sorry...I am simply pleading, NOT for universal agreement on issues, but at least discussing THE issue and how you feel about it without the constant pics and name calling. I have been, and hate to admit it, out of anger retorting to some of that because if flies in the face of adult conversation.

i am a conservative and the conservatives on here are becoming so infantile, proclaiming victory, admonishing all on the left as "whatever the word of the day might be" and making stuff up. Come on, you told us that Obama moved in two blocks from the WH so he could keep after Trump even though factually, he moved in to that house many months ago. Yet you attached this motive to it because you do not like Obama. If you can attach a factual issue to that move, so be it, but to make one up....come on.

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:48 PM

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No surprise there grasshopper.

U disagree with everything I post. :22yikes:

It was reported on Fox every few days with time charts and all.

It was on numerous Twitter feeds.

I did not disagree with it being on Fox at all, nor Twitter.

You said....

"CNN was totally silent other MSM outlets spent under a minute or two in hour of televised time.

I think Fox was the only one reporting (maybe that's why they are #1)"


That is a lie and I know it to be a lie. That is why it is easy to call you out.

There is enough truth out there....try that for a bit.

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 12:52 PM

In your opinion.

It's not a lie, it's what I saw.

You saw what you saw.

Do you think you're being graded on accuracy here, chill out.

you moved into a repub community.

you take these posts and forum waaaay to serious.

Oh I know you don't like the pics I post, sorry not your choice.

They add to the clarity of the subject unless they are simply humorous.

we R here to have fun you know

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:55 PM

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It's not a lie, it's what I saw.

You saw what you saw.

Do you think you're being graded on accuracy here, chill out.

you moved into a repub community.

I grade MYSELF on accuracy.

Obviously on this comment, you just flat out do not care about it.

I also am more aware you will ever be of what kind of community i live in and I, more than you ever will understand, know the political leaning.

But, it is basically an HONEST community that does grade themselves on accuracy.

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 12:57 PM

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In your opinion.

It's not a lie, it's what I saw.

You saw what you saw.

Do you think you're being graded on accuracy here, chill out.

you moved into a repub community.

you take these posts and forum waaaay to serious.

Oh I know you don't like the pics I post, sorry not your choice.

They add to the clarity of the subject unless they are simply humorous.

we R here to have fun you know

At least you show a bit of honesty in WHY you are here and how the truth means nothing to you...thanks for that......wishing for that old ignore button.

So enjoy your self, but memory serves me that they have lots of fun in GIRL TALK also

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 01:02 PM

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At least you show a bit of honesty in WHY you are here and how the truth means nothing to you...thanks for that......wishing for that old ignore button.

GRASSHOPPER alert

this took 30 seconds to find (want more?)

Friday evening, October 7, to Thursday morning, October 13, the morning and evening news shows on ABC, CBS and NBC spent 4 hours and 13 minutes reporting on accusations against Donald Trump for sexual harassment and/or assault, while the revelations from Wikileaks regarding Hillary Clinton’s staff’s emails received coverage for a paltry 36 minutes. That’s literally a 7-to-1 ratio.

ournalists quick to be critical of Trump dismissed the entirety of the email leak as a “distraction” (Nancy Cordes, CBS This Morning on October 13) with “no major bombshells” (Kasie Hunt, NBC’s Today on October 8). CBS This Morning on October 13 even invited on New York Times correspondent Mark Leibovich to talk about the leaked emails, -- a reporter who himself was featured in the leaked emails for having Hillary Clinton approve one of his stories about her. Yet not a single CBS “journalist” even mentioned this huge potential conflict of interest.

How Much Does The Media Cover Trump vs. Wikileaks? This Number Is AMAZING | Daily Wire

also Will Mainstream Media Cover Wikileaks Data Dump? - YouTube


Me think you set the ignore button on fox news :22yikes:

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 01:11 PM

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GRASSHOPPER alert

this took 30 seconds to find (want more?)

Friday evening, October 7, to Thursday morning, October 13, the morning and evening news shows on ABC, CBS and NBC spent 4 hours and 13 minutes reporting on accusations against Donald Trump for sexual harassment and/or assault, while the revelations from Wikileaks regarding Hillary Clinton’s staff’s emails received coverage for a paltry 36 minutes. That’s literally a 7-to-1 ratio.

ournalists quick to be critical of Trump dismissed the entirety of the email leak as a “distraction” (Nancy Cordes, CBS This Morning on October 13) with “no major bombshells” (Kasie Hunt, NBC’s Today on October 8). CBS This Morning on October 13 even invited on New York Times correspondent Mark Leibovich to talk about the leaked emails, -- a reporter who himself was featured in the leaked emails for having Hillary Clinton approve one of his stories about her. Yet not a single CBS “journalist” even mentioned this huge potential conflict of interest.

How Much Does The Media Cover Trump vs. Wikileaks? This Number Is AMAZING | Daily Wire


Me think you set the ignore button on fox news :22yikes:

Oh my...........

I just assumed you knew the difference between BROADCAST NEWS and CABLE NEWS. I suspect you should look into that before posting on this again because you just look more ignorant than I thought.

The differences between the two are HUGE and you referenced in your original post CABLE NEW CHANNELS, which incorporate more "shows" than news and must fill 24 hours a day. BROADCAST NEWS, by the way is limited in time and scope 5 days a week.

AS FOR Fox reference you made, I find that humurous.

Back in 2008 when I was posting under either Bucco or Rags123 I was accosted and told I watched too much Fox.....I was brainwashed, thus your comments made me smile

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 01:17 PM

If I made you smile U made my day.

Be well, Happy New Year

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 01:19 PM

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If I made you smile U made my day.

Be well, Happy New Year

At best, i did snicker.

Just assuming people know things is a mistake.

BROADCAST NEWS.....limited in time and scope

CABLE NEWS CHANNELS......24/7 365

rubicon 12-27-2016 04:52 PM

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I am going to call you on this.

Please supply some sort of credence to your claim about MSM spending so little time on the leaks.

I ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY disagree with you in every aspect of your post and submit you simply made it up.

Sorry guest but what the poster said about CNN and MSM is true because its their standard operating procedure to ignore progressives faux pas 24/7. CNN continues to lose viewership because they have lost so much credibility.

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 12-27-2016 06:01 PM

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Sorry guest but what the poster said about CNN and MSM is true because its their standard operating procedure to ignore progressives faux pas 24/7. CNN continues to lose viewership because they have lost so much credibility.

Personal Best Regards:

So because YOU proclaim, it is true ?

No good. You, in your posting have made things up, flat out lied, and plagiarized thus your credibility is zero.

Please ask me to prove that.

On the subject, neither you or anyone can make that claim. I certainly can accept that Fox covered it more than anyone. (Cannot recall how many shows Hannity dedicated to it) but the other crap is just that..political made up crap.

jimbo2012 12-27-2016 07:03 PM

do U find a need to respond to every post?

If you don't fell a persons post is credible IYHO, just ignore it.

You're being ridiculous.

ColdNoMore 12-27-2016 07:43 PM

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do U find a need to respond to every post?

If you don't fell a persons post is credible IYHO, just ignore it.

You're being ridiculous.

Seriously? :oops:

You think that a poster should be able to lie, post fake news, plagiarize and refuse to link to his/her sources...without being called on it? :1rotfl:

On second thought...I'll bet that's exactly what you would like.

Then, only right-wing zealots...would be posting in this forum. :wave:

Allegiance 12-27-2016 07:47 PM

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do U find a need to respond to every post?

If you don't fell a persons post is credible IYHO, just ignore it.

You're being ridiculous.

Incredibly obsessed.

Allegiance 12-27-2016 07:47 PM

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Seriously? :oops:

You think that a poster should be able to lie, post fake news, plagiarize and refuse to link to his/her sources...without being called on it? :1rotfl:

On second thought...I'll bet that's exactly what you would like.

Then, only right-wing zealots...would be posting in this forum. :wave:

Also obsessed

ColdNoMore 12-27-2016 07:52 PM

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Incredibly obsessed.

Deplorable right-wing zealot. :wave:

ColdNoMore 12-27-2016 07:52 PM

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Also obsessed

Deplorable right-wing zealot. :wave:

Buffalo Jim 12-27-2016 09:40 PM

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Seriously? :oops:

You think that a poster should be able to lie, post fake news, plagiarize and refuse to link to his/her sources...without being called on it? :1rotfl:

On second thought...I'll bet that's exactly what you would like.

Then, only right-wing zealots...would be posting in this forum. :wave:

For those of us with far less wisdom than you -- please explain how this person plagiarized anything .

Seems to be many on this site who suddenly are accusing everyone else of plagiarizing .

rubicon 12-28-2016 05:15 AM

Where Do These Jerks Hail From?
 
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So because YOU proclaim, it is true ?

No good. You, in your posting have made things up, flat out lied, and plagiarized thus your credibility is zero.

Please ask me to prove that.

On the subject, neither you or anyone can make that claim. I certainly can accept that Fox covered it more than anyone. (Cannot recall how many shows Hannity dedicated to it) but the other crap is just that..political made up crap.

Did you not read that CNN dropped to third place. apparently you are one of those poster's who can read but can't think. Apparently your perpetual argument is to call one names as a means of distraction. However artful dodgers like you are called out quickly
You offer no meaningful and positive contribution on these pages
There isn't an alphabet station that has any credibility.

My time is too valuable so in the future my only response to disagreeable and inane posters like you is going to be okey dokey

okey dokey

Personal Best regards:

ColdNoMore 12-28-2016 06:45 AM

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For those of us with far less wisdom than you -- please explain how this person plagiarized anything .

Seems to be many on this site who suddenly are accusing everyone else of plagiarizing .

It has a history of doing it.

Thanks for playing. :wave:

MDLNB 12-28-2016 06:53 AM

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For those of us with far less wisdom than you -- please explain how this person plagiarized anything .

Seems to be many on this site who suddenly are accusing everyone else of plagiarizing .

CNM can't be accused of "plagiarizing" because she never contributes any facts to the subject. All she can do is call everyone else a liar, with no proof.

MDLNB 12-28-2016 06:54 AM

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It has a history of doing it.

Thanks for playing. :wave:

Hey CNM....thank you for playing. Play with this........pull my finger AGAIN...............:a20:

MDLNB 12-28-2016 07:25 AM

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Just BEGIN to be honest.

Tell the truth, that will do it.

When you lie or stretch the truth simply to attack Obama, you look childish, at best.

There is enough truth to go around.

And speak to the current times...not the past. As YOU told the Democrats..how long will you blame Bush

That's a good idea about truth, but that is all in the beholder. On a political forum, posters basically submit either links, statements of fact or opinions. Similar to a commentary. Surely, you don't expect every post to be direct quotes from news sources, when there is a gathering of folks to discuss current political events?

Your attempt at being civil is respected, and I have attempted to copy that on many occasions, to no avail. Some folks, usually trolls persist in agitating in their misery.

Posting can be civil but I doubt you will ever hear a political opinion based solely on fact. Where do you get such facts, from the news? What makes that accurate?

This is a discussion. Someone presents a point and others discuss it.

Have a great day, Rocky......even if you are not a real conservative....;^)

Rockyrd 12-28-2016 09:41 AM

In line with the comparisons between Jim Jones and Donald Trump, be aware that his followers will believe anything obviously.


"Nearly half of all Donald Trump voters believe a widely debunked conspiracy theory claiming that Hillary Clinton is involved in a child sex ring run out of a popular Washington, D.C. pizzeria, a recent poll suggests."

Nearly 50% of Trump fans believe Clinton's involved in pedophilia - NY Daily News

And his messengers of lies are with him in the oval office..

"The retired general whom President-elect Donald Trump chose to advise him on matters of national security has urged Americans to learn about child sex crimes and money laundering allegedly committed by Hillary Clinton."

Trump's National Security Adviser: "Clinton Child Sex Crimes Are Real"

Should you not like the source....in the link are two actual tweets from Flynn.....and

"Flynn later tweeted a link to the Breitbart website on November 4. The article to which he linked quoted former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince, who said that during the Anthony Weiner investigation, “They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times.“

Flynn tweeted the article with the hashtag #SpiritCooking — a reference to occult practices revealed in a WikiLeaks email from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta."

Rockyrd 12-28-2016 09:48 AM

The above post given that each day, it seems, Trump seems to simply lie and lie......let us hope we hear the truth just one day.


"In a pair of tweets Monday night, Donald Trump laid out some bold and highly dishonest claims about his foundation, claiming “100% of money goes to wonderful charities!” His foundation was ordered to stop fundraising in October as a result of an investigation by the State of New York.

In fact, it has been obvious for awhile that Donald Trump’s foundation is guilty of doing exactly what he had accused the Clinton Foundation of doing, which makes his ridiculous tweets even more laughable:"


Trump Ridiculously Claims Every Penny Raised by Foundation Goes to Charity

"President-elect Donald Trump made the dubious claim on Twitter late Monday night that his foundation pays zero expenses and donates all of its money to charity. "

Donald Trump Claims 100 Percent Of His Foundation's Money Goes To Charity. That's A Lie. | The Huffington Post

Even Fox alludes, SOFTLY, to his lies...

Trump to Dissolve Foundation | Fox Business

So...bottom line, he lies and you believe him when he lies and he does it now on a daily basis....of course NEVER a press conference to answer questions.

Yet, you attack others....simply mind boggling.

Rockyrd 12-28-2016 09:51 AM

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That's a good idea about truth, but that is all in the beholder. On a political forum, posters basically submit either links, statements of fact or opinions. Similar to a commentary. Surely, you don't expect every post to be direct quotes from news sources, when there is a gathering of folks to discuss current political events?

Your attempt at being civil is respected, and I have attempted to copy that on many occasions, to no avail. Some folks, usually trolls persist in agitating in their misery.

Posting can be civil but I doubt you will ever hear a political opinion based solely on fact. Where do you get such facts, from the news? What makes that accurate?

This is a discussion. Someone presents a point and others discuss it.

Have a great day, Rocky......even if you are not a real conservative....;^)

You are correct...mistakes can be made, but copying word for word with no exception and posting it as yours is plagarism.

Twisting facts to give another meaning is done intenionally....accusing Obama of moving two blocks from the WH to simply attack Trump....when it was publicly announced he made this decision TWO months prior and simply for schooling for child.

Ignoring lies and actually fostering them is lying unto itself.

Yep, people make mistakes but most can tell the difference between a mistake and something done on purpose. Internet makes it very easy to double and triple check before attacking.

MDLNB 12-28-2016 09:55 AM

Seems like the thread has definitely moved from the subject Julian Assange. Oh well, lets talk about Obama's move down the street from the White House instead.

Rockyrd 12-28-2016 09:58 AM

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Seems like the thread has definitely moved from the subject Julian Assange. Oh well, lets talk about Obama's move down the street from the White House instead.

You mean the one he announce months ago...

From MAY

"President Barack Obama will lease a home in Washington, D.C.'s Kalorama neighborhood after he leaves the White House next year, CNN has confirmed."

Peek inside Obama's new house - CNNPolitics.com

Rockyrd 12-28-2016 10:00 AM

QUESTION FOR MDLNB......

If I misjudge I am sorry, but it appears to me...well, here is the question...

Does the truth mean anything to you or are you simply interested in trashing anyone and everyone who finds Trumps lies ?


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