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jebartle 01-02-2017 01:48 PM

Does Trump know more about hacks on DC than 17 Agencies??
 
Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

jimbo2012 01-02-2017 02:48 PM

IT would help if all the never Trump folks would indicate in their posts that they are NeverTrumpers.

That way the rest of the American that want the country to prosper can know how to reply to such silly posts.

Perhaps if you did follow MSM you would know what he & the 17 agencies said. :read::read::read::read::read:

MDLNB 01-02-2017 03:32 PM

So that I can skip all the posts from CNM, JAN and Rocky would you all be kind enough to start them with "As a liberal, I ....." That way, I can skip over the whining and move on to the discussion.

jimbo2012 01-02-2017 03:35 PM

Perfect

:BigApplause:



I think we need to stop responding to them and stay of fixing the problems

Don Baldwin 01-02-2017 04:24 PM

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Perfect

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I think we need to stop responding to them and stay of fixing the problems

No...you keep telling them they're wrong...and one day, hopefully, it will sink in.

Hopefully before the country has turned completely 3rd world.

graciegirl 01-02-2017 05:45 PM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Your side lost. You are going to have to deal with all of your worries now like we did when someone was elected we didn't agree with.

jimbo2012 01-02-2017 07:31 PM

Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-02-2017 08:04 PM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

ColdNoMore 01-02-2017 08:15 PM

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What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

Ummm, hint, when we allied with Russia in WW11...they hadn't been our Cold War enemy for 60+ years. :oops:

I am amazed more every day, at the people who are so under the spell of the Chump cult...that they make excuses for Russia's cyber-attacks. :ohdear:

It is so clear..that Putin owns Trump.

The question are..WHY & HOW?

And a lot of these people are the same ones who say they support our military.

Well, we obviously know now...that they are lying about that too. :wave:

MDLNB 01-02-2017 09:15 PM

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Ummm, hint, when we allied with Russia in WW11...they hadn't been our Cold War enemy for 60+ years. :oops:

I am amazed more every day, at the people who are so under the spell of the Chump cult...that they make excuses for Russia's cyber-attacks. :ohdear:

It is so clear..that Putin owns Trump.

The question are..WHY & HOW?

And a lot of these people are the same ones who say they support our military.

Well, we obviously know now...that they are lying about that too. :wave:

Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. So, no matter how much you cry like the baby you are, nothing you do will change the outcome of the election.

So, are you upset that Hillary's corruption has been revealed and you need someone to blame, or are you upset with the Russians for hacking us for the past 20-30 years or more? If so, are you also upset that we hack other countries every day?

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.

rubicon 01-03-2017 06:48 AM

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Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Dear Guest:

Saddam was able to hide very large aircraft in the desert.

what one can say with a degree of certainty is that WMD were never found.

Twice over the years WSJ carried a story of a particular night when the Iraqi Republic guard relieved for a night Syrian sentries at the border of their two countries.

what we do know is that Saddam did use chemical weapons against the Kurds and his own people and was very capable.
Were we wrong for going into Iraq? I don't think so but I do agree we made mistakes during this effort among them dismantle Iraq's army.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin 01-03-2017 07:40 AM

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Dear Guest:

Saddam was able to hide very large aircraft in the desert.

what one can say with a degree of certainty is that WMD were never found.

Twice over the years WSJ carried a story of a particular night when the Iraqi Republic guard relieved for a night Syrian sentries at the border of their two countries.

what we do know is that Saddam did use chemical weapons against the Kurds and his own people and was very capable.
Were we wrong for going into Iraq? I don't think so but I do agree we made mistakes during this effort among them dismantle Iraq's army.

Personal Best Regards:

YOU don't KNOW for a FACT that ANY of that is true.

The government, through the media...lies...a LOT.

Taltarzac725 01-03-2017 07:48 AM

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Do you remember when they were so sure of

Weapons of Mass Destruction?


That was our intelligence agencies that got into that war.


So this issue needs proof, which as of today doesn't exist.

So it should not be taken a face value, yet

Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.

dirtbanker 01-03-2017 07:57 AM

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Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump.

Let me try to put it in words you might understand:
I know you are not looking forward to that "Tampon" (Obamma) being pulled out. I suspect it is going to be a little messy, but in the long run it will be good for the health of the country.

Taltarzac725 01-03-2017 08:02 AM

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Let me try to put it in words you might understand:
I know you are not looking forward to that "Tampon" (Obamma) being pulled out. I suspect it is going to be a little messy, but in the long run it will be good for the health of the country.

How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

dirtbanker 01-03-2017 08:08 AM

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Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.

How could anyone do any more damage to the US image than Obamma? The pu$$y bowed and apologized every chance he got...

You believe Crooked Hillary was going to curb corruption in DC? Talk about lie, cheat, and steal...

Founding fathers checks and balances...Obamma threw that $hit out the window more than 200 times...Obamma would like to personally re write the constitution!

Keen history...STUDENTS?

"All I see" is what the liberal media wants you to see.

Don't you mean "God help me continue to get my Wackadoodle check"?

dirtbanker 01-03-2017 08:11 AM

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How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

Start looking for a job...the Obamma Free Ride train is about to come to a screeching halt!

Don Baldwin 01-03-2017 08:11 AM

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How the hell to you say that. It will be good for Trump and his Wall Street buddies and a few other people who can laugh all the way to the bank. Most people will just feel like they bought an interest in Trump University.

What is that saying about people who ignore history will just see it repeated? Have you people read Trump's biography?

ALL presidents, ALL Senators, ALL Congressmen, ALL politicians PROFIT from their office...every one of them. It's WHY they do it. Money AND power.

Most "His-Story" is faked propaganda. Don't blindly believe a word of it. His-Story IS written by the winners...for the winners.

Look at how even American His-Story is changing. As the minorities...the "winners" take over as the majority..."our white history" is being replace by THEIR history. And guess what...we're being portrayed as the "bad guys". His-Story isn't static...it changes with fluidity as circumstances change.

Believe nothing. I know...it's VERY cynical...but it's the only way. The world is full of lies.

graciegirl 01-03-2017 08:55 AM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Do YOU know more about hacks than 17 agencies?

My money is on Trump who has the direct line.

We will see. I know I got more valid information from WikiLeaks than I did from any of the mainstream media.

G.G.

Rockyrd 01-03-2017 09:25 AM

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Do YOU know more about hacks than 17 agencies?

My money is on Trump who has the direct line.

We will see. I know I got more valid information from WikiLeaks than I did from any of the mainstream media.

G.G.


MEDIA ???

How about the total and complete Unjited States Government intelligence agency.

I will give you that they are not perfect, but to instill in Trump some kind of magic is a very serious mistake.

I also await what he "KNOWS" that nobody else does as he said......maybe he does but we will see...

If our Intelligence agency is 100% wrong on this or anything for that matter, what are we to do.....that would be your idols only source of information...or ....

Jim007 01-03-2017 11:59 AM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????



According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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janmcn 01-03-2017 12:37 PM

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MEDIA ???

How about the total and complete Unjited States Government intelligence agency.

I will give you that they are not perfect, but to instill in Trump some kind of magic is a very serious mistake.

I also await what he "KNOWS" that nobody else does as he said......maybe he does but we will see...

If our Intelligence agency is 100% wrong on this or anything for that matter, what are we to do.....that would be your idols only source of information...or ....



Who is Trump going to rely on for intelligence when North Korea launches its first nuclear warhead heading for Seattle? His gut instinct?

ColdNoMore 01-03-2017 01:20 PM

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According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron.

A flaming narcissistic, xenophobic, bigoted, misogynistic, thin-skinned with a 12 year old vocabulary....moron at that. :thumbup:

Rockyrd 01-03-2017 01:27 PM

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Who is Trump going to rely on for intelligence when North Korea launches its first nuclear warhead heading for Seattle? His gut instinct?

Well,according to GG, all he needs is HIMSELF !!!!

MDLNB 01-03-2017 03:13 PM

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Well,according to GG, all he needs is HIMSELF !!!!

Wow the three libtard stooges plus one/half conversing together.

Funny how Trump has said things recently that has entertained you. It's also REALLY funny how you all laugh and then later find out he turns out to be right. REALLY, REALLY funny that he was so right that he WON. And the three of you, plus one are still laughing in ignorance.

Hey, I'm laughing WITH you,......really....:a20:

rjm1cc 01-03-2017 07:01 PM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

The first question is what did the agencies actually say. I do not expect them to give information that would hurt us but I would expect to see the head of each of these 17 agencies say that their agency suspects that Russia did the hacking or they do not suspect that Russia did it.

I do not think the public can rely on new reports which lack verification. I would hope that Trump has been given information form our governmental agencies that is more specific than we see in the press.

MDLNB 01-03-2017 07:39 PM

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According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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If that is true and he is truly a moron, then he must really be a libtard in disguise, and not really a Republican.

Don Baldwin 01-03-2017 10:58 PM

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A flaming narcissistic, xenophobic, bigoted, misogynistic, thin-skinned with a 12 year old vocabulary....moron at that. :thumbup:

Says the woman who wishes she were a man...

janmcn 01-04-2017 10:22 AM

today is the day
 
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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????



Today is the day that Trump informs us what it is that he knows that no one else knows, presumably including the president. On Sat night he told reporters he would tell them on Tues or Wed what that information is. Well nothing happened Tuesday, so that leaves today. Has anyone heard what time this announcement will be made?

JSR22 01-04-2017 10:25 AM

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Wow the three libtard stooges plus one/half conversing together.

Funny how Trump has said things recently that has entertained you. It's also REALLY funny how you all laugh and then later find out he turns out to be right. REALLY, REALLY funny that he was so right that he WON. And the three of you, plus one are still laughing in ignorance.

Hey, I'm laughing WITH you,......really....:a20:

I am laughing at you for believing his lies. he is a total fool.

janmcn 01-04-2017 10:25 AM

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If that is true and he is truly a moron, then he must really be a libtard in disguise, and not really a Republican.


Trump has been a democrat for 95% of his life. He has no allegiance to the republican party.

MDLNB 01-04-2017 11:00 AM

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Trump has been a democrat for 95% of his life. He has no allegiance to the republican party.

Then you should have voted for him, and at the very least support him now. :boom:

mickey100 01-04-2017 11:11 AM

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Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. ...

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.

No, you are the one spouting BS. You obviously read too many of the fake news sites. Get a grip - your little "facts" about Podesta's password and the DNC leak are not facts at all and are totally unproven. There is widespread agreement among cybersecurity experts and professionals that the leaks can be attributed to Russian intelligence actors. And trying to blame Obama for this? Nutty.

mickey100 01-04-2017 11:15 AM

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I am laughing at you for believing his lies. he is a total fool.

He IS a total fool. Too smart for security briefings, he knows more than the generals, more than the intelligence agencies, and these Republican fools buy right into it. I just have to shake my head at how stupid people are. And having no knowledge of the nuances of diplomacy, his rash actions could easily get us into a war.

MDLNB 01-04-2017 11:56 AM

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No, you are the one spouting BS. You obviously read too many of the fake news sites. Get a grip - your little "facts" about Podesta's password and the DNC leak are not facts at all and are totally unproven. There is widespread agreement among cybersecurity experts and professionals that the leaks can be attributed to Russian intelligence actors. And trying to blame Obama for this? Nutty.

And you know NOTHING about it. You are trying to tell those of us that have worked it and understand it, that you have a clue and you don't. Russia has been hacking us for years. So does China. SO does Pakistan and Iran. And many others attempt to hack us, including our allies. You say something is unproven, and then turn around like a 'tard and claim the Russians are responsible for hacking the DNC and Hillary and your email.

Like I said before, if the servers are using encryption and proper security practices then they are less prone to hacking. Hillary violated felony laws by using the Internet to transmit classified information. Instead of blaming the Russians, she should have been incarcerated and prosecuted for her felony violations. Execution would be fitting for her crimes.

Obama is an amateur and weak. He has no experience at leading and still thinks that "following" is the definition of leading, in his case leading from behind. He is clueless and should shut up and leave quietly while he still has a small iota of pride left.

MDLNB 01-04-2017 11:58 AM

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He IS a total fool. Too smart for security briefings, he knows more than the generals, more than the intelligence agencies, and these Republican fools buy right into it. I just have to shake my head at how stupid people are. And having no knowledge of the nuances of diplomacy, his rash actions could easily get us into a war.

YOu must be talking about Obama. Isn't he the one that is insulting and fighting with Putin? If anyone can get us into a war, is this inept loser that can't leave the White House fast enough.

Rockyrd 01-04-2017 12:09 PM

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Your opinion again. No fact, just BS.

What did the Russians hack? They didn't hack the DNC. The DNC leaked the info. They didn't hack Podesta, he released his password. Wikileaks said that they did not get Hillary's emails from the Russians. So, no matter how much you cry like the baby you are, nothing you do will change the outcome of the election.

So, are you upset that Hillary's corruption has been revealed and you need someone to blame, or are you upset with the Russians for hacking us for the past 20-30 years or more? If so, are you also upset that we hack other countries every day?

OR, do you even know what you are upset about? And if that is the problem, why are you blaming Trump? It would be more Obie's fault than Trumps.


Question for you...not having as much information as you obviously have...

1. Are you comfortable with a President Elect verbally attacking, and that it was, the United States Intelligence community and doing it in public to the world ? Forget whether you agree or not, or if he does because you, he and I have very limited information at this point.

2. Do you support our President Elect, again publicly worldwide, supporting Asange, while taking a defensive stand in support of Putin ? His party leader, Ryan, called Asange a voice for Russia.

Again, if you can, stick with the issue...not about the election, not about Clinton, simply the anti United States verbiage being put out to the world by the President of the United States in advance of taking office.

MDLNB 01-04-2017 12:20 PM

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Question for you...not having as much information as you obviously have...

1. Are you comfortable with a President Elect verbally attacking, and that it was, the United States Intelligence community and doing it in public to the world ? Forget whether you agree or not, or if he does because you, he and I have very limited information at this point.

2. Do you support our President Elect, again publicly worldwide, supporting Asange, while taking a defensive stand in support of Putin ? His party leader, Ryan, called Asange a voice for Russia.

Again, if you can, stick with the issue...not about the election, not about Clinton, simply the anti United States verbiage being put out to the world by the President of the United States in advance of taking office.

Questions back at ya:

Do you support Obama bowing down to our enemies and apologizing throughout the world for the U.S. being the best?

Do you support Obama disparaging the police and endorsing BLM and the Wall St. protesting cretins?

I'll tell you what, when you quit making the Russian hacking an excuse for Hillary the felon losing the election, then I will be glad to forget your ridiculous comments.

At least Trump is proud to be an American and does not blame his white mother for making him what he is. And as far as we know, Trump is not a half breed ******* son that hates America and loves Allah.

Rockyrd 01-04-2017 12:40 PM

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Questions back at ya:

Do you support Obama bowing down to our enemies and apologizing throughout the world for the U.S. being the best?

Do you support Obama disparaging the police and endorsing BLM and the Wall St. protesting cretins?

I'll tell you what, when you quit making the Russian hacking an excuse for Hillary the felon losing the election, then I will be glad to forget your ridiculous comments.

At least Trump is proud to be an American and does not blame his white mother for making him what he is. And as far as we know, Trump is not a half breed ******* son that hates America and loves Allah.

You certainly validated my opinion of you, so not surprised you didn't even make an attempt to response

I will answer your questions however. I did not support those Obama actions and I have already mentioned my previous names were Bucco and Rocky123. I recommend you use the search engine on here and you will see quite a few posts by me, and threads begin to say that.

I make no excuses for anyone..and if you do that search I suggested you will find my feelings on Hillary Clinton.

I am not much of a party guy.....I prefer to support good people doing good things for my country.

So, man up...answer my questions or whatever..

looneycat 01-04-2017 12:48 PM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

trump is a russian tool bought cheaply


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